Does Ted Cruz have Dual Citizenship?

[Cecilie1200]

Here's a link that says when Cruz finally got rid of his Canadian citizenship.....

It's official: Ted Cruz a citizen of the U.S. - and the U.S. only - CNNPolitics.com

Yes, Cruz did have dual citizenship, but according to what he told CNN, he thought that because he hadn't lived in Canada since he was 4, he never really thought much about it. It was only when it came up when he was looking into running for president that he found out he actually was a dual citizen, and then took steps to get rid of his Canadian citizenship, and became a full US citizen.

OK, but would that make him a natural born citizen? From the way I understand it natural born and being a citizen are two different things.

I guess it depends on whether you think "natural born citizen" means "born with US citizenship", or some other vague, mystical thing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

if it was Jebby ahead in both the GOP race, and 10 points ahead of Hillary, i wonder if they would be questioning where Jebby was born.

Why would they do that? He was born in Texas.

 

[SwimExpert]

I've heard that this was true on another website. I don't know how accurate it is but his mother was canadian and he had, at one time, canadian as well as American citizenship. Is this true?

He had dual citizenship. He claims that he was unaware of his Canadian citizenship until a few years ago. At that time he promptly denounced Canadian citizenship in a spectacle well covered by the media. Thus, he he no longer has dual citizenship.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Granny say if he do...

... den mebbe if he comes in 2nd place...

... dey can make him President o' Canada.

Canada has a Prime Minister, dimwit.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The great irony is that Raphael (Ted) Cruz, the Cubnadian performance artist, touts himself as a "Constitutional Originalist"...which would make him ineligible.

Constitutional Cruz Control

From what I see in your link, the author is making assumptions. That's the problem with lawyers and regressives, they try to split hairs and play semantics games when plain language would better serve the situation.

Everybody in the media keeps trying to play "Cleverest Person in the Room" in order to attract readers.

 

[Skylar]

I've heard that this was true on another website. I don't know how accurate it is but his mother was canadian and he had, at one time, canadian as well as American citizenship. Is this true?

He did. He renounced his Canadian citizenship in the last few years.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The great irony is that Raphael (Ted) Cruz, the Cubnadian performance artist, touts himself as a "Constitutional Originalist"...which would make him ineligible.

Constitutional Cruz Control

From what I see in your link, the author is making assumptions. That's the problem with lawyers and regressives, they try to split hairs and play semantics games when plain language would better serve the situation.

Funny how Republicans made such an issue over Obama's eligibility (and Obama was born in the United States - even is his mother had been from Mars, the fact he was born in the US settled the matter) and now they are glossing over the glaring fact that Cruz wasn't even born in the United States. I'm sure that enough interest in the truth will be generated to cause Ted Cruz plenty of angst.......Karma is a *****.

Funny how leftists 1) think all situations are exactly the same, and 2) think parroting people's criticisms back blankly, regardless of appropriateness, is the definition of "karma".

"You said it, and now I'm saying it to YOU! Hahahahahaha!"

Makes me glad I'm too smart to be leftist.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Here's a link that says when Cruz finally got rid of his Canadian citizenship.....

It's official: Ted Cruz a citizen of the U.S. - and the U.S. only - CNNPolitics.com

Yes, Cruz did have dual citizenship, but according to what he told CNN, he thought that because he hadn't lived in Canada since he was 4, he never really thought much about it. It was only when it came up when he was looking into running for president that he found out he actually was a dual citizen, and then took steps to get rid of his Canadian citizenship, and became a full US citizen.

OK, but would that make him a natural born citizen? From the way I understand it natural born and being a citizen are two different things.

My opinion is that it will come down to that since he didn't have to go through the naturalization process to become a citizen then he is natural born. Besides this requirement was to keep British subjects from running for office.

Apparently, the courts are going to have to waste time clarifying that "citizen at birth" is the definition of "natural-born citizen" for the thinking-impaired among us.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

if it was Jebby ahead in both the GOP race, and 10 points ahead of Hillary, i wonder if they would be questioning where Jebby was born.

Why would they do that? He was born in Texas.

well Jebby is half cuban and 1/32nd mexican,,,so it is possible he may have been born south of the border.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Here's a link that says when Cruz finally got rid of his Canadian citizenship.....

It's official: Ted Cruz a citizen of the U.S. - and the U.S. only - CNNPolitics.com

Yes, Cruz did have dual citizenship, but according to what he told CNN, he thought that because he hadn't lived in Canada since he was 4, he never really thought much about it. It was only when it came up when he was looking into running for president that he found out he actually was a dual citizen, and then took steps to get rid of his Canadian citizenship, and became a full US citizen.

OK, but would that make him a natural born citizen? From the way I understand it natural born and being a citizen are two different things.

He could have been born in Soviet Russia, and, so long as one of his parents was a US citizen, he became one, too, at the moment of his birth.

Not really. There are some glaring facts that Republican/conservatives are now willing to overlook......when not so long ago they were so eager to find something, anything to help them make Obama ineligible.

Ted Cruz's mother obtained a Canadian citizenship....which requires an oath of allegiance. That may have disqualified her to keep her American citizenship.


An earlier report published by Breitbart showed that both of Cruz's parents were listed on a Canadian federal voter list from 1974. Since only Canadian citizens are permitted to vote in federal elections there, the presence of Cruz's parents' names on the list raises the possibility that they may have been Canadian citizens at one time.

And because becoming a Canadian citizen requires an oath of allegiance—and Section 349 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act stipulates that American citizens who swear allegiance to another country may lose their American citizenship—it seems possible that Cruz's mother may have lost her American citizenship. This would mean that Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth and is therefore ineligible to become president.
http://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate-us-united-states-citizen-413530

Sorta forgot this part, didn't ya?

However, Diane Benson, a spokeswoman for Elections Canada, tells Newsweek that the presence of a person's name on a voter roll does not necessarily mean that he or she was legally allowed to vote. It was not immediately clear if that rule was the same in 1974, when Cruz's mother's name appeared on the list.

Gee, I wonder why that got left out.

 

[Cecilie1200]

if it was Jebby ahead in both the GOP race, and 10 points ahead of Hillary, i wonder if they would be questioning where Jebby was born.

Why would they do that? He was born in Texas.

well Jebby is half cuban and 1/32nd mexican,,,so it is possible he may have been born south of the border.

I assume you're trying to be funny and clever, but you're missing . . . a lot. Jeb Bush was born in Midland, Texas. End of discussion.

 

[Cecilie1200]

...Ted Cruz's mother obtained a Canadian citizenship....which requires an oath of allegiance. That may have disqualified her to keep her American citizenship...

If there was no action at-law prior to Cruz' birth, then none of that makes the slightest difference. If Cruz' mother was a citizen the day he was born, then so is Cruz. Finis.

Bwahahaha....just because you say so doesn't mean it is "finis"........you obviously didn't read the part where "if you make an oath of allegiance to another country....you may lose your American citizenship" .....we've yet to find out if Teddy is just wasting his time and yours.....

If there was no action at-law, by the time of the birth, to cause the woman to lose her citizenship, then no cause of action at-law exists, regarding the birth. Period.

There's also no proof that she ever did anything about getting Canadian citizenship, since the head of Elections Canada was quoted in that linked article - and the quote mysteriously was omitted from the post - that being listed in the voter records doesn't actually mean anything.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

if Ted Cruz is an illegal alien, then how did he become a senator?

 

[mdk]

How many more threads do we need on Cruz's birth? He is eligible to be President. Time to move on.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

ok,,,lets move on to alan grayson and debbie wasserman,,,they are not of this earth.

 

[OKTexas]

He's an American, but is he a natural born American? The SC has never defined that. An American President, born in Canada? Hmmm, seems we might have a problem after all...

Personally I hope the court takes the case and rules only a person born to two citizens is a citizen, just like the common law all the regressives have posted say. That would
absolutely be the best outcome.

It will be only one parent, the question is, must you be born on soil under American jurisdiction at the time, like John McCain?

So, imagine your American parents go abroad, you're born in a hospital in Germany, at the age of three weeks you then go back to America and never step foot on German soil for the rest of your life.

Are you German? Clearly not. So what are you? You're clearly American.

Actually, a child born in circumstances like what you describe is generally considered to have dual citizenship, and at the age of 18, they then have to declare which country they are going to be citizens of.

Saw it happen a couple of times while I was in the Navy. Had to help type the paperwork.

I know plenty of kids who were born like this who never had duel citizenship at any time in their lives.

Could that be because Canada and the US are the only countries in the developed world to offer birthright citizenship?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How many more threads do we need on Cruz's birth? He is eligible to be President. Time to move on.

Time will tell...

 

[Cecilie1200]

if Ted Cruz is an illegal alien, then how did he become a senator?

If you're a brainless ****, how did you turn the computer on by yourself?

 

[Mertex]

Funny how Republicans made such an issue over Obama's eligibility (and Obama was born in the United States - even is his mother had been from Mars, the fact he was born in the US settled the matter) and now they are glossing over the glaring fact that Cruz wasn't even born in the United States. I'm sure that enough interest in the truth will be generated to cause Ted Cruz plenty of angst.......Karma is a *****.

Funny how you've ignored what I've said on the subject.

What did you say? That there is no discussion? That Ted Cruz is a citizen because he was born one? Cruz wasn't born in the US and there is sufficient doubt that he may not be eligible since he kept his Canadian citizenship until just recently. Someone has filed a suit against him, so I guess we'll soon find out.

Your previous statement:

According to the Constitution there are only two ways to become a citizen, be born one, which Cruz was, or be a naturalized citizen.

In fact, Teddy may be in some more serious trouble, since he didn't reveal that he had Canadian citizenship when he ran for the Senate....which is considered a fraud. Not to mention the fact that he and his wife also didn't disclose a big fat loan they got to fund his campaign, required by the Federal Election Committee. It may not cause him more trouble but it sure exposes Ted Cruz as a fraud and a liar.



In short, Sen. Ted Cruz was a legal citizen of Canada when he ran for and became a U.S. Senator, without ever having disclosed his Canadian citizenship to Texas voters, which under both Texas and U.S. Election law, is an act of fraud. Ted Cruz had committed election fraud by failing to disclose to Texas voters that he was a Canadian citizen in 2012.
By having retained his Canadian citizenship until 2014 means that he “could” have voted in Canada and ran for the Canadian Parliament at the same time he was in the U.S. Senate. This eligibility issue is showing a lack of integrity on the part of Cruz.
Cruz Says 'If Obama Can Do It, So Can I' - Dr. Rich Swier


The Federal Election Committee requires candidates to disclose loans that are used to fund their campaigns, in order to increase transparency and ensure that candidates aren’t getting sweetheart rates from banks. Cruz did not disclose the loans, one of which came from his wife’s employer—Goldman Sachs.
Cruz Didn’t Disclose up to $1 Million in Senate Campaign Loans From Goldman Sachs, Citibank

The suit will be dismissed for lack of standing, just like the ones on your dear leader. Otherwise feel free to keep grasping for those straws, you might get lucky.

The claims against Obama were always bogus........that's why you all resorted to the lie that he was born in Kenya. It's not looking that clear for Teddy, and these aren't "straws".
The fact that Teddy's mother obtained Canadian citizenship may have disqualified her as an American citizen...but keep holding on to your dream....if it gives you warm fuzzies.

And because becoming a Canadian citizen requires an oath of allegiance—and Section 349 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act stipulates that American citizens who swear allegiance to another country may lose their American citizenship—it seems possible that Cruz's mother may have lost her American citizenship. This would mean that Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth and is therefore ineligible to become president.
http://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate-us-united-states-citizen-413530

Damn you're good at cutting and pasting,

Unlike you and majority of Republicans, who just post the pap they hear on Faux News?

did she get this supposed citizenship before or after little Teddy was born?

I guess the courts will have to figure that out....but a 1974 voter register lists her as a voter in Canada, so she definitely must have Canadian citizenship.

Why do you post assumptions without the facts?

That's what you are doing. We're supposed to take your word......Faux News babble? Learn to use google.....it might help you not be so uniformed.

 

[OKTexas]

Funny how you've ignored what I've said on the subject.

What did you say? That there is no discussion? That Ted Cruz is a citizen because he was born one? Cruz wasn't born in the US and there is sufficient doubt that he may not be eligible since he kept his Canadian citizenship until just recently. Someone has filed a suit against him, so I guess we'll soon find out.

Your previous statement:

According to the Constitution there are only two ways to become a citizen, be born one, which Cruz was, or be a naturalized citizen.

In fact, Teddy may be in some more serious trouble, since he didn't reveal that he had Canadian citizenship when he ran for the Senate....which is considered a fraud. Not to mention the fact that he and his wife also didn't disclose a big fat loan they got to fund his campaign, required by the Federal Election Committee. It may not cause him more trouble but it sure exposes Ted Cruz as a fraud and a liar.



In short, Sen. Ted Cruz was a legal citizen of Canada when he ran for and became a U.S. Senator, without ever having disclosed his Canadian citizenship to Texas voters, which under both Texas and U.S. Election law, is an act of fraud. Ted Cruz had committed election fraud by failing to disclose to Texas voters that he was a Canadian citizen in 2012.
By having retained his Canadian citizenship until 2014 means that he “could” have voted in Canada and ran for the Canadian Parliament at the same time he was in the U.S. Senate. This eligibility issue is showing a lack of integrity on the part of Cruz.
Cruz Says 'If Obama Can Do It, So Can I' - Dr. Rich Swier


The Federal Election Committee requires candidates to disclose loans that are used to fund their campaigns, in order to increase transparency and ensure that candidates aren’t getting sweetheart rates from banks. Cruz did not disclose the loans, one of which came from his wife’s employer—Goldman Sachs.
Cruz Didn’t Disclose up to $1 Million in Senate Campaign Loans From Goldman Sachs, Citibank

The suit will be dismissed for lack of standing, just like the ones on your dear leader. Otherwise feel free to keep grasping for those straws, you might get lucky.

The claims against Obama were always bogus........that's why you all resorted to the lie that he was born in Kenya. It's not looking that clear for Teddy, and these aren't "straws".
The fact that Teddy's mother obtained Canadian citizenship may have disqualified her as an American citizen...but keep holding on to your dream....if it gives you warm fuzzies.

And because becoming a Canadian citizen requires an oath of allegiance—and Section 349 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act stipulates that American citizens who swear allegiance to another country may lose their American citizenship—it seems possible that Cruz's mother may have lost her American citizenship. This would mean that Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth and is therefore ineligible to become president.
http://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate-us-united-states-citizen-413530

Damn you're good at cutting and pasting,

Unlike you and majority of Republicans, who just post the pap they hear on Faux News?

did she get this supposed citizenship before or after little Teddy was born?

I guess the courts will have to figure that out....but a 1974 voter register lists her as a voter in Canada, so she definitely must have Canadian citizenship.

Why do you post assumptions without the facts?

That's what you are doing. We're supposed to take your word......Faux News babble? Learn to use google.....it might help you not be so uniformed.

I guess you missed this post.

However, Diane Benson, a spokeswoman for Elections Canada, tells Newsweek that the presence of a person's name on a voter roll does not necessarily mean that he or she was legally allowed to vote. It was not immediately clear if that rule was the same in 1974, when Cruz's mother's name appeared on the list.

It could have been a simple clerical error, she may not have been a citizen of Canada at all, NEXT.