Does anyone think Trump is trying to win this thing?

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Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job, and the elites of both parties have abandoned them ... for strangely similar reasons. But the polls show he's not only disliked even more than Hillary, but the Bill Clinton is a rapist schtick has no legs with the majority.

His got his base frothing at the mouth about slick raping a 12 year old who he never met and whom Hillary was appointing to represent her rapist, and the woman never said anything about Hillary for 30 years, and the Trumpbots are shouting lock her up.

38% will give him a nice cable news viewership
 
Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job,

Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"
 
Trump has won against everyone's predictions up to now, and YES he is still aiming to win. He believes he can pull it off, and what is so disheartening is that it is working with such a lot of people. Still.
 
to answer the question , yeah , sure , why not . Then again if its all a scam , oh well !! Looks to me that the USA Government or whoever has fooled most people in the USA that there are 2 main different political parties and a USA Constitution , equal protection under the American laws and actual laws for years now .
 
Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job,

Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"

He needs to drop the Muslim thing and advocate a time-out on ALL immigration. Then he wouldn't have to deal with the Dems' argument-by-anecdote and cries of Islamaphobia and seriously rally the majority (including a sizable number of blacks) to his side.
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals. His followers fell in line and joined in the denigration and they haven't shut up yet. As his poll numbers tanked, they began to have the gall to blame it on "butthurt Cruz bots" and failed to hold Trump accountable for his consistent slide to the left.

Now, he is in a situation that us "Cruz Bots" said he would be in... the media is rolling out the dirt on Trump and it is damaging. He's double-digits behind Hillary in the polls and still, his sycophants live in a state of denial. The polls are rigged, everything that doesn't align directly with whatever spews from Trump's mouth on any given day, is rigged! Even those of us who have said we will vote for him to keep Hillary from winning, even though we don't support him, are being slimed and smeared more than Hillary. And his numbers continue to tank.

It's FAR too late for Trump or his supporters to heed any advice I have given them. There is very little he can do at this point to change the inevitable outcome of this election. Odds are, he will lose to Hillary by about what the polls are predicting. That's the reality we need to start getting used to. How can we survive four more years of a radical left president who intends to stack the courts with progressive ideologues? Is there any chance we can still hang on to the Senate? What will life in America be like without our 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 10th Amendments?

Who's to blame? It doesn't really matter now... but I put the blame squarely on Republicans who knew they were running against the #2 most unpopular candidate in American political history and campaigned for the candidate who held the #1 most unpopular spot. Literally, any other Republican candidate could have beaten this deplorable bucket of scum and corruption. Trump may have been the only candidate who could have lost to her.

Is there ANY upside to this for Constitutional Conservatives? Possibly, that we can bury this new Alt-Right Nationalist-Populist idiocy forever and hopefully return to sanity and core principles. Will there be a nation to save in four years? That is still an unknown.
 
Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job,

Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"

He needs to drop the Muslim thing and advocate a time-out on ALL immigration. Then he wouldn't have to deal with the Dems' argument-by-anecdote and cries of Islamaphobia and seriously rally the majority (including a sizable number of blacks) to his side.
Well, no immigration isn't gonna work simply because we produce too many lawyers and not enough engineers. Everyone is for vetting muslim immigrants, but something like 60% don't support a ban on muslims. The Wall thing and closing illegal immigration costs him no votes, since most people agree or just don't care. Latinos/Hispanics are not amused with deporting a worker who is married to a legally documented person and has kids.
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php
 
Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job,

Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"

He needs to drop the Muslim thing and advocate a time-out on ALL immigration. Then he wouldn't have to deal with the Dems' argument-by-anecdote and cries of Islamaphobia and seriously rally the majority (including a sizable number of blacks) to his side.
Well, no immigration isn't gonna work simply because we produce too many lawyers and not enough engineers. Everyone is for vetting muslim immigrants, but something like 60% don't support a ban on muslims. The Wall thing and closing illegal immigration costs him no votes, since most people agree or just don't care. Latinos/Hispanics are not amused with deporting a worker who is married to a legally documented person and has kids.

And why have our home-grown engineers been driven out of the field?
 
Over and over, first Manafort and then Conway have told him his path to victory runs along trade, jobs lost by formerly union scale workers now underemployed in service job,

Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"

He needs to drop the Muslim thing and advocate a time-out on ALL immigration. Then he wouldn't have to deal with the Dems' argument-by-anecdote and cries of Islamaphobia and seriously rally the majority (including a sizable number of blacks) to his side.
Well, no immigration isn't gonna work simply because we produce too many lawyers and not enough engineers. Everyone is for vetting muslim immigrants, but something like 60% don't support a ban on muslims. The Wall thing and closing illegal immigration costs him no votes, since most people agree or just don't care. Latinos/Hispanics are not amused with deporting a worker who is married to a legally documented person and has kids.

And why have our home-grown engineers been driven out of the field?
Engineering Grads Enjoy Greater Job Prospects
 
democrats a republican rino plus supreme court have killed millions of engineers due to abortion . Just saying .
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php

Uhm... "The Media" had absolutely NOTHING to do with Donald Trump rolling out the day after the convention, rehashing and re-opening old wounds about Cruz and his family... literally telling Cruz supporters that he didn't need or want their support, he could win without it and would rather win without it.

Let me clue you in, dumbass... "The Media" is always and forever opposed to the Republican candidate! You cannot name a Republican candidate in your lifetime that the media has supported. They are the de facto PR wing of the Democrat Party. So whining and moaning about the unfair media is simply whining and moaning about something we already knew all along and should have expected. This is why you HAVE to run a campaign on core Constitutional principles and message. It's the ONLY way to defeat ideologues.

You tried, with McCain and Romney, to "out-liberal" the liberals... now you've tried to "out-sleaze" the liberals... you keep getting your ass kicked because they do it better than you. But some people, for whatever reason, just cannot learn their lesson.
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php
Welcome.
 
Don't forget immigration.
His handlers were not big on the muslim thing or even the wall. They don't work with the majority. He couldn't just flip flop. But, they wanted him to basically do a Nixon "We'll lock up all those ungrateful rioting blacks ...... to ...... jobs jobs jobs and more jobs"

He needs to drop the Muslim thing and advocate a time-out on ALL immigration. Then he wouldn't have to deal with the Dems' argument-by-anecdote and cries of Islamaphobia and seriously rally the majority (including a sizable number of blacks) to his side.
Well, no immigration isn't gonna work simply because we produce too many lawyers and not enough engineers. Everyone is for vetting muslim immigrants, but something like 60% don't support a ban on muslims. The Wall thing and closing illegal immigration costs him no votes, since most people agree or just don't care. Latinos/Hispanics are not amused with deporting a worker who is married to a legally documented person and has kids.

And why have our home-grown engineers been driven out of the field?
Engineering Grads Enjoy Greater Job Prospects

But they can't compete with $300 per hour lawyer rates. Lawyers can't be replaced by a 22-year-old Chinese.
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php

Uhm... "The Media" had absolutely NOTHING to do with Donald Trump rolling out the day after the convention, rehashing and re-opening old wounds about Cruz and his family... literally telling Cruz supporters that he didn't need or want their support, he could win without it and would rather win without it.

Let me clue you in, dumbass... "The Media" is always and forever opposed to the Republican candidate! You cannot name a Republican candidate in your lifetime that the media has supported. They are the de facto PR wing of the Democrat Party. So whining and moaning about the unfair media is simply whining and moaning about something we already knew all along and should have expected. This is why you HAVE to run a campaign on core Constitutional principles and message. It's the ONLY way to defeat ideologues.

You tried, with McCain and Romney, to "out-liberal" the liberals... now you've tried to "out-sleaze" the liberals... you keep getting your ass kicked because they do it better than you. But some people, for whatever reason, just cannot learn their lesson.

Dumbass? Nice.

Your characterization of the media's savaging of Donald Trump as just run-of-the-mill opposition to the GOP shows only that your powers of perception are weak. We have never seen anything like what we are witnessing in this election, and the underlying political reality of the American people has permanently shifted because of it. Jews, a particularly influential group, have been in near unanimous lockstep with foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of Trump since the beginning. The media were even pumping up the much-despised and universally disliked Ted Cruz as an alternative to Trump.

The nation is careening toward catastrophe thanks to our wildly reckless mass immigration policies and there is no chance we will vote our way out of this mess if Trump loses.
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php

Uhm... "The Media" had absolutely NOTHING to do with Donald Trump rolling out the day after the convention, rehashing and re-opening old wounds about Cruz and his family... literally telling Cruz supporters that he didn't need or want their support, he could win without it and would rather win without it.

Let me clue you in, dumbass... "The Media" is always and forever opposed to the Republican candidate! You cannot name a Republican candidate in your lifetime that the media has supported. They are the de facto PR wing of the Democrat Party. So whining and moaning about the unfair media is simply whining and moaning about something we already knew all along and should have expected. This is why you HAVE to run a campaign on core Constitutional principles and message. It's the ONLY way to defeat ideologues.

You tried, with McCain and Romney, to "out-liberal" the liberals... now you've tried to "out-sleaze" the liberals... you keep getting your ass kicked because they do it better than you. But some people, for whatever reason, just cannot learn their lesson.

Dumbass? Nice.

Your characterization of the media's savaging of Donald Trump as just run-of-the-mill opposition to the GOP shows only that your powers of perception are weak. We have never seen anything like what we are witnessing in this election, and the underlying political reality of the American people has permanently shifted because of it. Jews, a particularly influential group, have been in near unanimous lockstep with foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of Trump since the beginning. The media were even pumping up the much-despised and universally disliked Ted Cruz as an alternative to Trump.

The nation is careening toward catastrophe thanks to our wildly reckless mass immigration policies and there is no chance we will vote our way out of this mess if Trump loses.

But you're just flat out wrong. We've seen exactly this sort of thing with EVERY Republican candidate, including the beloved Ronald Reagan. Every Republican who has won in modern times has done so by unifying the party behind a consistent message on core principles. Trump began to do this but moved away from it as time went on and now he is poised to lose.

Blaming the media is silly and superficial... We already KNOW the media is in the tank for the Democrat... that's been the case for the past 70 years or so. If you have to count on the media to help you win the presidency, you're never going to win as a Republican. That's just not a reality that will ever happen.
 
The media were even pumping up the much-despised and universally disliked Ted Cruz as an alternative to Trump.

Look... let's get something fucking straight here... Ted Cruz was the #2 candidate behind Trump with over 1/3 of the party's support. Hardly "universally disliked" he was extremely popular among core Constitutional Conservatives... he was clearly their pick of the liter in a field of 17 candidates. Those who "disliked" Cruz are the establishment "go along to get along" Republicans who had rather capitulate to the progressives than use the power of the purse to obstruct their agenda.

To any extent "the media" pushed a Republican in the primaries it was Trump! They gave him plenty of air time, let him explain his gaffes, pushed his narrative, helped him destroy Carson, Rubio, Paul, Bush, Kasich, Christie, Fiorina and Cruz and were instrumental in helping him secure the unchallenged nomination for the GOP. They did this knowing full well that he could not ever beat Hillary Clinton.

The party establishment sat on their hands... they tried to promote Bush, tried to promote Christie, tried to push Kasich.... couldn't get to double digits on support with any of them. Finally, when it was almost over with, they tried to rally behind Cruz and that enabled Trump-bots to tarnish Cruz as an "establishment candidate" which was laughable. Until the writing was pretty much on the wall, the establishment thought they hated Cruz more than Trump!

So now they have Trump as their candidate and they've tried to hook their cart to this train wreck but it's impossible. At this point they don't know what to do, they are now running away from Trump in order to try and salvage the Senate. But what good is the Senate in the hands of Republicans who are committed to capitulation with the Progressive Agenda as opposed to using the power of the purse to obstruct them? :dunno:
 
In my opinion, Trump's critical error was running AWAY from the core Conservative voters who mostly backed Ted Cruz in the primary. Instead of attempting to bring these voters into the Big Tent, he chose to run them out of the tent and humiliate them as if they were radical liberals.

Are you kidding me? Trump is right when he says he is running against the media. They are flat out lying in order to beat him, and, unfortunately, people just lap it up.

http://pitbullsfortrump.com/when.php

Uhm... "The Media" had absolutely NOTHING to do with Donald Trump rolling out the day after the convention, rehashing and re-opening old wounds about Cruz and his family... literally telling Cruz supporters that he didn't need or want their support, he could win without it and would rather win without it.

Let me clue you in, dumbass... "The Media" is always and forever opposed to the Republican candidate! You cannot name a Republican candidate in your lifetime that the media has supported. They are the de facto PR wing of the Democrat Party. So whining and moaning about the unfair media is simply whining and moaning about something we already knew all along and should have expected. This is why you HAVE to run a campaign on core Constitutional principles and message. It's the ONLY way to defeat ideologues.

You tried, with McCain and Romney, to "out-liberal" the liberals... now you've tried to "out-sleaze" the liberals... you keep getting your ass kicked because they do it better than you. But some people, for whatever reason, just cannot learn their lesson.

Dumbass? Nice.

Your characterization of the media's savaging of Donald Trump as just run-of-the-mill opposition to the GOP shows only that your powers of perception are weak. We have never seen anything like what we are witnessing in this election, and the underlying political reality of the American people has permanently shifted because of it. Jews, a particularly influential group, have been in near unanimous lockstep with foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of Trump since the beginning. The media were even pumping up the much-despised and universally disliked Ted Cruz as an alternative to Trump.

The nation is careening toward catastrophe thanks to our wildly reckless mass immigration policies and there is no chance we will vote our way out of this mess if Trump loses.

But you're just flat out wrong. We've seen exactly this sort of thing with EVERY Republican candidate, including the beloved Ronald Reagan. Every Republican who has won in modern times has done so by unifying the party behind a consistent message on core principles. Trump began to do this but moved away from it as time went on and now he is poised to lose.

Blaming the media is silly and superficial... We already KNOW the media is in the tank for the Democrat... that's been the case for the past 70 years or so. If you have to count on the media to help you win the presidency, you're never going to win as a Republican. That's just not a reality that will ever happen.
 

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