Documented proof Republican fear mongering

[RDD_1210]

I'd just bet he has monkey's flying outta his ass.
no wonder he has "monkey's" on the brain.

Listen to the two of you. You're coming off like the uneducated, unemployed waste of oxygen that you both are. EVERY one of your posts in this thread is a complete attack with name calling and useless drivel.
Sure, maybe my post is too, but at least I got it done in one post and got back to my JOB. Something neither of you have any concept of, unless you consider collecting unemployment and mooching off hard working people like me to be a job.

hahahahahaha, I got home FROM WORK at 1:30 this morning, not that IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. and sheeesh, at my JOB they don't let us sit around posting rambling rants on some message board..man I'm in the WRONG BUSINESS.

What do you do?? I'm dying to know. I already know that you didn't go to college and I'm still unsure if you graduated high school.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

he's a typical demonRat and just like the idiot he voted for, his allegiance lies somewhere other than AMERICA.

The Bass is a Democrat now? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Now thats a funny one, I don't act like a rightwing Republican monkey so I must be a Democrat or lefty, I mean us Americans are incapable of speaking for ourselves and having our own mind so we must belong to some political party or subscribe to their ideology, thats it, LOLOLOLOL!

Yes you are a Democrat, at least 90 percent of you blacks vote that way, you did in fact vote for Obama and you defend him and his policies vigorously. And as for you being an American? I think that's debatable seeing the flag your flying.

I voted for Obama not the Democratic Party, the same way I voted for a religiously conservative candidate in my area, not the party he belongs to.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I don't call anyone who disagrees with me a monkey, just those who are obviously being calculating, dishonest and manipulative, if the shoe fits wear it.

 

[Stephanie]

Listen to the two of you. You're coming off like the uneducated, unemployed waste of oxygen that you both are. EVERY one of your posts in this thread is a complete attack with name calling and useless drivel.
Sure, maybe my post is too, but at least I got it done in one post and got back to my JOB. Something neither of you have any concept of, unless you consider collecting unemployment and mooching off hard working people like me to be a job.

hahahahahaha, I got home FROM WORK at 1:30 this morning, not that IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. and sheeesh, at my JOB they don't let us sit around posting rambling rants on some message board..man I'm in the WRONG BUSINESS.

What do you do?? I'm dying to know. I already know that you didn't go to college and I'm still unsure if you graduated high school.

LOL, this must be some of the useless drivel you talk about OTHERS posting. but hey, at least you're doing it from your job.

 

[Stephanie]

Listen to the two of you. You're coming off like the uneducated, unemployed waste of oxygen that you both are. EVERY one of your posts in this thread is a complete attack with name calling and useless drivel.
Sure, maybe my post is too, but at least I got it done in one post and got back to my JOB. Something neither of you have any concept of, unless you consider collecting unemployment and mooching off hard working people like me to be a job.

Yes and bass sounds so intelligent.

Dude, why do you obsess so much about me and not the topic? Stephanie and Willow have done nothing but fill up the thread with their monkey speak, typical of partisan chimps from the right to attack anything that goes against the right.

stop whining now "monkey breath" you seem to be able to dish it, but can't take it.

 

[martybegan]

Notwithstanding the reactionary egos who post on this message board, the argument that Democrats do it too is lame. The example on 'global warming' (Climate Change) is absurd; fear mongering it is not. Whether climate change is caused by human activity maybe debatable, but acid rain, smog, mercury in our sea food and a hundred other examples of human influence on the earth's environment are indistputable.

Tu quo que is an acceptable arguement in this case. The discussion is of a political tactic, not a political position. And I disagree that the climate change debate is not fear mongering. Propoents bring up increased hurricanes, death of crops, more heat waves, cities swamped by rising sea levels.

The other topics you use are not related to the "climate change" debate. those are measurable, non global scale phenomenon that are much easier to quantify and to place blame on. Those are much more observable based on the principle of "if you do X, Y happens"

So are you trying to argue that presenting the facts that support global warming is fear mongering as you try to make excuses for the right's fear mongering as they use rhetoric and baseless accusations of advancing toward socialism (the new redscare) and refer to the dem leadership as "the evil empire"?? Really??

Not at all. The OP presented a case of Republican fear mongering, and I merely pointed out it is a tactic used by both sides all the time. No excuses were made, i didnt even reference the substance of the republican tactics.

My point is that in the end the response to global warming from those who support the anthro-centric model appears to be more government regulation, more government control, and more taxes on things the people in power decry as "bad." The word socialism never entered my response until now, and I'm not even referencing it.

 

[WillowTree]

I don't call anyone who disagrees with me a monkey, just those who are obviously being calculating, dishonest and manipulative, if the shoe fits wear it.

Monkey Flag from the land of the Monkey ape.

 

[RDD_1210]

hahahahahaha, I got home FROM WORK at 1:30 this morning, not that IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. and sheeesh, at my JOB they don't let us sit around posting rambling rants on some message board..man I'm in the WRONG BUSINESS.

What do you do?? I'm dying to know. I already know that you didn't go to college and I'm still unsure if you graduated high school.

LOL, this must be some of the useless drivel you talk about OTHERS posting. but hey, at least you're doing it from your job.

Just like I thought. No job. Enjoy that Welfare.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

When the right feels the need to chime in a try to tear down the messenger as they ignore the message that pretty much shows that the right takes him seriously.
If they didn't, then they wouldn't feel the need to chime in and tear him down.

What message was the idiot trying to convey? Can he or you cite one thing in the so-called Republican playbook that isn't true? And how is asking the basshole that question tearing him down? Oh he can go and call everyone monkeys and your ok with that but when he starts recieving a little of what he's giving all of a sudden he's being torn down. You're a ******* idiot and a joke, now run along and go play.

Obama is not a socialist, especially when he bailed out big businesses after they screwed up, a true socialist or communist would have totally nationalized the car industry, regulating big business is NOT socialism nor communism, but this is all moot since that playbook explicitly details using fear and smearing to accomplish their goals.

Again point out one thing that is IN the "playbook" that isn't true. Also point out this so-called fear mongering.

And yes Obama is a socialist. Socialism according to Karl Marx is the transistion between capitalism and communism and Obama is certainly out to transform this nation. Obama believes that labor unions should be allowed to organize without a secret ballot. The Socialist Party USA calls for unions to be recognized without a secret ballot. If you would do a little research into the Socialist Party USA you would find that their ideology and Obama's are very similar. But of course you won't because you satisfied staying ignorant and believing everything your masters tells you. If you're anything, you're an obediant peon.

 

[Stephanie]

What do you do?? I'm dying to know. I already know that you didn't go to college and I'm still unsure if you graduated high school.

LOL, this must be some of the useless drivel you talk about OTHERS posting. but hey, at least you're doing it from your job.

Just like I thought. No job. Enjoy that Welfare.

hahahahaha. what the hell EVA you say, now back to work wee one.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Listen to the two of you. You're coming off like the uneducated, unemployed waste of oxygen that you both are. EVERY one of your posts in this thread is a complete attack with name calling and useless drivel.
Sure, maybe my post is too, but at least I got it done in one post and got back to my JOB. Something neither of you have any concept of, unless you consider collecting unemployment and mooching off hard working people like me to be a job.

Yes and bass sounds so intelligent.

Dude, why do you obsess so much about me and not the topic? Stephanie and Willow have done nothing but fill up the thread with their monkey speak, typical of partisan chimps from the right to attack anything that goes against the right.

Dude, was I addressing you ? No I wasn't so shut the **** up!

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Yes and bass sounds so intelligent.

Dude, why do you obsess so much about me and not the topic? Stephanie and Willow have done nothing but fill up the thread with their monkey speak, typical of partisan chimps from the right to attack anything that goes against the right.

stop whining now "monkey breath" you seem to be able to dish it, but can't take it.

The Bass is laughing like a mad man, you're so obsessed with me that you don't even remember the topic. This is pure enjoyment, I've proven whats already been proven that its too easy to psychological control your opponents in a debate to the point of making them look mad because they have no counter argument to the topic.


Now back on topic monkey, the play book of the simians your worship has been discovered and put out in the open, what are your thoughts on that or do you need time to think about it:

Come on Stephanie you can do it, keep think hard and stay deep in thought, but off course you will have no answers.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The Bass is a Democrat now? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Now thats a funny one, I don't act like a rightwing Republican monkey so I must be a Democrat or lefty, I mean us Americans are incapable of speaking for ourselves and having our own mind so we must belong to some political party or subscribe to their ideology, thats it, LOLOLOLOL!

Yes you are a Democrat, at least 90 percent of you blacks vote that way, you did in fact vote for Obama and you defend him and his policies vigorously. And as for you being an American? I think that's debatable seeing the flag your flying.

I voted for Obama not the Democratic Party, the same way I voted for a religiously conservative candidate in my area, not the party he belongs to.

You've already shown yourself to be a liar, so forgive me for not believing you.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Yes and bass sounds so intelligent.

Dude, why do you obsess so much about me and not the topic? Stephanie and Willow have done nothing but fill up the thread with their monkey speak, typical of partisan chimps from the right to attack anything that goes against the right.

Dude, was I addressing you ? No I wasn't so shut the **** up!

Me but not the topic or link posted which means your monkey speak have been nothing but off topic personal attacks, why to go monkey, here's your reward for being honest:

 

[Wry Catcher]

Tu quo que is an acceptable arguement in this case. The discussion is of a political tactic, not a political position. And I disagree that the climate change debate is not fear mongering. Propoents bring up increased hurricanes, death of crops, more heat waves, cities swamped by rising sea levels.

The other topics you use are not related to the "climate change" debate. those are measurable, non global scale phenomenon that are much easier to quantify and to place blame on. Those are much more observable based on the principle of "if you do X, Y happens"

Yet most of the factors which cause "non global scale phenomenon" are in place around the world. Whether such factors in the aggregate impact the worlds climate is worthy of debate, the pollution cased by burning fossil fuels is not.
It matters not the cause of climate change: a natural phenomena, caused by man, or a combination of factors. If we are to thrive as a species we must adapt, for even small changes can bring about massive problems in terms of enough clean water, clean air and food production.

While I agree that eventually getting off fossil fuels is probably needed I have issues with the method. I also find the obsession with wind/solar to be perplexing, as these are the two technologies least likely to free us from fossil fuels. The trainsient nature of both would require massive storage to cover non windy/sunny periods, as well as to create a baseline generation to prevent rolling blackouts and brownouts. If global warming is such a dire cause why isn't fission being embraced as a stop gap to wean us off coal for electricity generation until they can finally get fusion to work? I know the waste issue, but at least it is concentrated, unlike fossil fuel waste which is spread into the atmosphere and disperesed.

It is my understanding that the new generation of reactors are safer and able to reprocess spent fuel rods obviating much of the storage problem. The problem with nuclear is public perception and of course the politics.
Solar will work in much of California and the West. If the cost of a full electric car and solar panels for our roof were not so very high, we would replace our second car and roof immediately. I look forward to the time we can do this, and stop sending our dollars to OPEC.
I believe the Federal Government - the president - ought to by executive order require all Federal Agencies except LE agencies & the military to place solar panels on the roof of their office buildings and purchase only hybrid or solar vehicles, when replacing their fleets. In doing so the cost to homeowners will drop and the new green energy industry will produce jobs. Seems to me a win-win for all but the coal and petroleum industries.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Dude, why do you obsess so much about me and not the topic? Stephanie and Willow have done nothing but fill up the thread with their monkey speak, typical of partisan chimps from the right to attack anything that goes against the right.

stop whining now "monkey breath" you seem to be able to dish it, but can't take it.

The Bass is laughing like a mad man, you're so obsessed with me that you don't even remember the topic. This is pure enjoyment, I've proven whats already been proven that its too easy to psychological control your opponents in a debate to the point of making them look mad because they have no counter argument to the topic.


Now back on topic monkey, the play book of the simians your worship has been discovered and put out in the open, what are your thoughts on that or do you need time to think about it:

Come on Stephanie you can do it, keep think hard and stay deep in thought, but off course you will have no answers.

Way to stay on topic there dude.

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, THE BASS has proven himself to be a TYPICAL LEFTY.

when you lose the argument and have nothing else, resort to posting stupid PICTURES.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Yes you are a Democrat, at least 90 percent of you blacks vote that way, you did in fact vote for Obama and you defend him and his policies vigorously. And as for you being an American? I think that's debatable seeing the flag your flying.

I voted for Obama not the Democratic Party, the same way I voted for a religiously conservative candidate in my area, not the party he belongs to.

You've already shown yourself to be a liar, so forgive me for not believing you.

What does who I vote for have to do with the topic and the link posted?

You know why I call you dopes monkeys, chimps, apes, baboons, gibbons and gorillas? I enjoy not just whipping you idiots in debates and with facts, I also enjoy psychological controlling and humiliating you GOP puppets as I own and whip you all in debates, it wouldn't be fun and most important it would be me if I didn't do it.

 

[drsmith1072]

The Democrats main platform is fear mongering and scare tactics. They can't run on their records so what do they do? They Beat up on Bush and warn the folks about how bad it would be if the Republicans regain power. Every four years that claim that the Republicans are going to gut the social security system. Everything is a crisis with the Democrats, they said if we didn't pass the stimulus the country would be in "dire straits".

Talk about projection. The right has used terror and 9/11 to "buy" votes through fear and continue to do so. They also use immigration, which they chose to do next to nothing about when they had the chance, to scare people. Then there is the "death panel" arguments about the healthcare bill. The red scare both socialism and communism.

Furthermore, beating up on bush when this economic mess began on his watch is justified. I know that you rightwing lemmings would just love to forget him and blame everything on the democrats but that's just not realistic or honest.

I don't warn people about how bad it will be IF republicans regain power I just don't see the logic behind putting the same politicians who increased the size of government when they had power when they manipulate their base while arguing against it back into power and expecting a different result?

Furthermore, it's kind of hard for right wingers to complain about the stimulus when they and their states took the money even as they hypocrtically condemned where it came from.

 

[martybegan]

Yet most of the factors which cause "non global scale phenomenon" are in place around the world. Whether such factors in the aggregate impact the worlds climate is worthy of debate, the pollution cased by burning fossil fuels is not.
It matters not the cause of climate change: a natural phenomena, caused by man, or a combination of factors. If we are to thrive as a species we must adapt, for even small changes can bring about massive problems in terms of enough clean water, clean air and food production.

While I agree that eventually getting off fossil fuels is probably needed I have issues with the method. I also find the obsession with wind/solar to be perplexing, as these are the two technologies least likely to free us from fossil fuels. The trainsient nature of both would require massive storage to cover non windy/sunny periods, as well as to create a baseline generation to prevent rolling blackouts and brownouts. If global warming is such a dire cause why isn't fission being embraced as a stop gap to wean us off coal for electricity generation until they can finally get fusion to work? I know the waste issue, but at least it is concentrated, unlike fossil fuel waste which is spread into the atmosphere and disperesed.

It is my understanding that the new generation of reactors are safer and able to reprocess spent fuel rods obviating much of the storage problem. The problem with nuclear is public perception and of course the politics.
Solar will work in much of California and the West. If the cost of a full electric car and solar panels for our roof were not so very high, we would replace our second car and roof immediately. I look forward to the time we can do this, and stop sending our dollars to OPEC.
I believe the Federal Government - the president - ought to by executive order require all Federal Agencies except LE agencies & the military to place solar panels on the roof of their office buildings and purchase only hybrid or solar vehicles, when replacing their fleets. In doing so the cost to homeowners will drop and the new green energy industry will produce jobs. Seems to me a win-win for all but the coal and petroleum industries.

The petroleum industry will be fine, unless we feel like going back to whaling for our industrial lubricants. My concern with solar is the efficency and the durablity of the technology. The efficencies are the workable lifespan of the equipment for photovolactic isnt where it should be yet. I always wondered why they have moved away from the targeted mirror approach, which used a more familair power generation method (heat liquid, use heat to create steam, and steam to run a generator.)

Your point on the nuclear industry points out the other obstacle we face in this debate. That pefect is the enemy of good enough. The most vocal people in the debate are unfortuneately usually the most dogmaticaly rigid when it comes to how to solve the issue. A solution that includes, more nuclear, more drilling now in our own country, coupled with a "apollo program" with regards to solar/wind would be the best solution, but will never happen because those with the passion to make things change are too rigid in thier ideas and want it doen THIER WAY OR NO WAY.