Do You Support Iran Or Israel/US?

Do You Support Iran Or Israel/US?

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Seems like several lefties and even a few righties on here are backing Iran in the current conflict. So, this poll is to find out the level of that support. The poll is anonymous so you can vote freely without anyone ever knowing how you voted.


Why do you act like "Israel/US" have the same interests when, in a rare moment of honesty, Netanyahu perfectly described the true nature of the US - Israeli "alliance"?

“Stupid pro-Israel Americans - have you heard these quotes from your hero Netanyahu? See below?”


“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” - Benjamin Netanyahu
 
Why do you act like "Israel/US" have the same interests when, in a rare moment of honesty, Netanyahu perfectly described the true nature of the US - Israeli "alliance"?

“Stupid pro-Israel Americans - have you heard these quotes from your hero Netanyahu? See below?”


“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” - Benjamin Netanyahu
Most of the countries in the world support Israel's right to exist. Wasn't the Holocaust a bad thing?
 
Most of the countries in the world support Israel's right to exist. Wasn't the Holocaust a bad thing?

Thanks for the refreshing, insult free comment.

I also support Israel's right to exist but I don't understand why Palestinians do not have a right to exist on land they have inhabited long before foreign, European Jews and Zionist terrorist gangs came to invade and occupy their land of generations.

Are pampered and coddled Israelis some sort of privileged ethnic group who are the only people on the planet who are entitled to unlimited American blood and resources?

Even though any aid to Israel is illegal according to the Symington Amendment, (1) Israeli lobbies still manage to extort $ Trillions from America to commit genocide, torment its neighbors and launch unprovoked sneak attacks on other countries to preserve its illegal nuclear arsenal and regional hegemony.

What does America get in return for enabling Israel's regional hegemony, genocide, innumerable violations of International Law and countless False Flag betrayals dating back to the Lavon Affair in 1954, USS Liberty massacre and other deceptions too numerous to list?

In spite of all that I still fully support Israel's right to exist in peace within legal and mutually agreed upon borders like any other country.

Next, of course the Holocaust was a bad thing but, unlike the ongoing Nakba, it is one of countless similar tragedies of the past while the genocidal Nakba continues to this day after 80 years.

Additionally, I can think of no other similar tragedy that has been so richly and crassly exploited and embellished by what Norman Finkelstein has labeled as "The Holocaust Industry".

The Holocaust museum in Washington DC alone costs American taxpayers $ 100 Million each year just as the Holocaust Industry has repeatedly been caught engaging in fraud, chronic embellishment and numerous deceptions. (2), (3) None of this, however, negates the fact that the Holocaust was a significant tragedy involving the suffering of numerous innocent individuals.

It is a lamentable irony that the lessons of the Holocaust have been entirely lost on Israel's right wing Jewish extremists.

Finally, I believe that too little is said about the growing number of generous, courageous and ethical Jews who strongly oppose the inexcusable atrocities committed by the current Netanyahu government.

Thanks,






(1). "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments - Corporate Crime Reporter

EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs, the lawsuit alleges."CONTINUED


(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
 
Thanks for the refreshing, insult free comment.

I also support Israel's right to exist but I don't understand why Palestinians do not have a right to exist on land they have inhabited long before foreign, European Jews and Zionist terrorist gangs came to invade and occupy their land of generations.

Are pampered and coddled Israelis some sort of privileged ethnic group who are the only people on the planet who are entitled to unlimited American blood and resources?

Even though any aid to Israel is illegal according to the Symington Amendment, (1) Israeli lobbies still manage to extort $ Trillions from America to commit genocide, torment its neighbors and launch unprovoked sneak attacks on other countries to preserve its illegal nuclear arsenal and regional hegemony.

What does America get in return for enabling Israel's regional hegemony, genocide, innumerable violations of International Law and countless False Flag betrayals dating back to the Lavon Affair in 1954, USS Liberty massacre and other deceptions too numerous to list?

In spite of all that I still fully support Israel's right to exist in peace within legal and mutually agreed upon borders like any other country.

Next, of course the Holocaust was a bad thing but, unlike the ongoing Nakba, it is one of countless similar tragedies of the past while the genocidal Nakba continues to this day after 80 years.

Additionally, I can think of no other similar tragedy that has been so richly and crassly exploited and embellished by what Norman Finkelstein has labeled as "The Holocaust Industry".

The Holocaust museum in Washington DC alone costs American taxpayers $ 100 Million each year just as the Holocaust Industry has repeatedly been caught engaging in fraud, chronic embellishment and numerous deceptions. (2), (3) None of this, however, negates the fact that the Holocaust was a significant tragedy involving the suffering of numerous innocent individuals.

It is a lamentable irony that the lessons of the Holocaust have been entirely lost on Israel's right wing Jewish extremists.

Finally, I believe that too little is said about the growing number of generous, courageous and ethical Jews who strongly oppose the inexcusable atrocities committed by the current Netanyahu government.

Thanks,






(1). "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments - Corporate Crime Reporter

EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs, the lawsuit alleges."CONTINUED


(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
The Palestinians only exist to wipe Israel off the face of the map. They actually don't want a two state solution. They want a one state solution with Israel wiped off the face of the map. They use their territory to harbor anti-Israeli terrorists, weapons, and infrastructure.
 
I wish the poll had also asked whether respondents are Dems or Republicans. We would see that 95% of those who side with an Islamic terrorist regime over the Jews and Americans are from the Left.
 
The Palestinians only exist to wipe Israel off the face of the map. They actually don't want a two state solution. They want a one state solution with Israel wiped off the face of the map. They use their territory to harbor anti-Israeli terrorists, weapons, and infrastructure.
Leave ms grau alone----her ability to parrot islamo nazi propaganda and discard the reality of the filth in which she and hers engaged for millennia and counting fascinates me
 
The Palestinians only exist to wipe Israel off the face of the map. They actually don't want a two state solution. They want a one state solution with Israel wiped off the face of the map. They use their territory to harbor anti-Israeli terrorists, weapons, and infrastructure.


First of all, even if what you claim is true, can you blame them after 80 years of foreign funded Zionist genocide, land theft and relentless torment?

Next...

How much time have you spent in the Middle East among Palestinian refugees?

And...

Can you think of any population in history that has not resisted a brutal, internationally condemned invasion / occupation?

Finally, in spite of the pro Israel bias of Western MSM, most Americans oppose Netanyahu's genocide, why don't you?

Thanks,
 
Looking back on it, the world and Iraq itself is a better place without Saddam Hussein. So, US troops being there was a positive. We could have also said the same thing about Afghanistan until Biden got out so badly that terrorists took over the country.
It was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban at Camp David on the 2019 anniversary of 9/11. He left the mess for Biden to clean up.
 
That's the kind of thinking that almost lead to Hitler taking over the entire world. The US stayed out of the fray for too long and allowed Hitler to get stronger and stronger.
So you are on board with our involvement in Ukraine. Good to know.
 
First of all, even if what you claim is true, can you blame them after 80 years of foreign funded Zionist genocide, land theft and relentless torment?

Next...

How much time have you spent in the Middle East among Palestinian refugees?

And...

Can you think of any population in history that has not resisted a brutal, internationally condemned invasion / occupation?

Finally, in spite of the pro Israel bias of Western MSM, most Americans oppose Netanyahu's genocide, why don't you?

Thanks,
Thanks for admitting what I said was true and you don't blame them.
 
First of all, even if what you claim is true, can you blame them after 80 years of foreign funded Zionist genocide, land theft and relentless torment?

Next...

How much time have you spent in the Middle East among Palestinian refugees?

And...

Can you think of any population in history that has not resisted a brutal, internationally condemned invasion / occupation?

Finally, in spite of the pro Israel bias of Western MSM, most Americans oppose Netanyahu's genocide, why don't you?

Thanks,
I have spent my entire adolescence and adult life ( to wit, more than 60 years) in candid
conversation with muslims and their victims . The roots of today's conflict in the middle
east has little to do with the past 80 years. ONLY a jerk who has no concept
of history and reality would come up with such an idea. Just for minimal starters read
the koran and learn a bit about the GLORIOUS AGE OF ISLAMIC CONQUEST. ----talk to
some Copts, Chaldeans, Druse, Hindus, Zoroastrians, etc etc and MOST OF ALL ----Muslims,
like Indian shiites, East Pakistani muslims, IRANIANS -----sheeeeesh---learn something---
sipping tea in the tent won't do it.......you needn't thank me
 
It was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban at Camp David on the 2019 anniversary of 9/11. He left the mess for Biden to clean up.
Biden didn't clean up. He officially gave the Taliban the country along with billions of dollars in US military equipment. And, the way Biden got out also encouraged Russia to invade Ukraine.
 
So you are on board with our involvement in Ukraine. Good to know.
Biden's involvement in Ukraine led to us giving them billions of dollars in aid with Ukraine losing territory. And, Russia would have never invaded Ukraine if Biden hadn't gotten out of Afghanistan so badly.
 
Biden's involvement in Ukraine led to us giving them billions of dollars in aid with Ukraine losing territory. And, Russia would have never invaded Ukraine if Biden hadn't gotten out of Afghanistan so badly.
Wow. You've really swallowed quite a load of shit, haven't you.

Russia drastically underestimated Biden. And Zelenksy. He's getting his ass handed to him and his economy will implode if we keep the pressure up.

And we have two new NATO members, thanks to Putin. Right on his fricking border.

Greatest military bungle EVAH!!!
 
Wow. You've really swallowed quite a load of shit, haven't you.

Russia drastically underestimated Biden. And Zelenksy. He's getting his ass handed to him and his economy will implode if we keep the pressure up.

And we have two new NATO members, thanks to Putin. Right on his fricking border.

Greatest military bungle EVAH!!!
Ummmmmmmmmmmm, Russia has been consistently taking over Ukraine territory. Has Putin paid a price? Sure. But it doesn't change the fact that Ukraine loses more territory every day.
 
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Ummmmmmmmmmmm, Russia has been consistently taking over Ukraine territory. Has Putin paid a price? Sure. But it doesn't change the fact that Ukraine loses more territory every day.
Actually, Ukraine has stopped the advance. Putin is reduced to killing women and children with drones and missiles out of his impotence.

Russia once invaded Afghanistan, too. They even managed to install their own puppet as the head of the country. Putin hasn't even managed to achieve that in Ukraine.

Yet Reagan stood up to KGB Putin's Soviet bosses, provided aid, and we kept up the pressure until the USSR collapsed.

Putin has been enjoying military victories for a long time. If he isn't stopped now, he will keep going, and the Baltic states are next.

Putin is an unabashed Stalinist, and it is his intention to reconstitute the Soviet Union.
 
Actually, Ukraine has stopped the advance. Putin is reduced to killing women and children with drones and missiles out of his impotence.

Russia once invaded Afghanistan, too. They even managed to install their own puppet as the head of the country. Putin hasn't even managed to achieve that in Ukraine.

Yet Reagan stood up to KGB Putin's Soviet bosses, provided aid, and we kept up the pressure until the USSR collapsed.

Putin has been enjoying military victories for a long time. If he isn't stopped now, he will keep going, and the Baltic states are next.

Putin is an unabashed Stalinist, and it is his intention to reconstitute the Soviet Union.
What good is NATO if we are just going to defend non members anyway?
 
What good is NATO if we are just going to defend non members anyway?
We defended Afghanistan. We have defended many countries who are not in NATO.
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This is news to you?

I was deployed to some of those countries, sometimes as part of a NATO operation.

It's about deterrence of more aggression. A lesson we learned from Hitler.
 
We defended Afghanistan. We have defended many countries who are not in NATO.
'
This is news to you?

I was deployed to some of those countries, sometimes as part of a NATO operation.

It's about deterrence of more aggression. A lesson we learned from Hitler.
What good is NATO if we are just going to defend non members anyway?
 
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