Do you consider this Justice? Is this who we are?

Wasn't this man arrested for being here illegally? I mean
 
Hey, 3 Republicans voted against the Hegseth confirmation, can you explain why, for such an obvious choice for a supporter of Trump?
They responded to polls in their home states. Calling that "bipartisan opposition" to Hegseth is absurd.
I know the party is on the run, but retreat is often the best course of action, so that you can fight again in the future
Your party needs to run as far as it can and as fast as it can away from the failed policies that we saw implemented in the last four years.

Re: your emotional appeal above: Nobody who is starving is able to emigrate, they are too hungry and have no means to travel. Nobody who is a political prisoner can just walk out of their cell and hop a plane to Mexico in order to illegallly enter the U.S.

The overwhelming majority of immigrants come here for the economic opportunity that a relatively free economy provides. Fine. We're a land of opportunity. But we keep it that way by carefully regulating the number and kind of immigrants we allow in our country. If we don't we kill the Golden Goose, as Biden damn near succeeded in doing.
 
If they wants jobs, they’d have jobs. Deporting illegal immigrants doesn’t change that.

Sure it does. The unfilled jobs would become more attractive as the demand for labor increases. Couple that with cutting subsidies that afford able bodied people the ability not to work, and we have a win/win.
 
Sure it does. The unfilled jobs would become more attractive as the demand for labor increases. Couple that with cutting subsidies that afford able bodied people the ability not to work, and we have a win/win.
A job doesn’t become more attractive because there’s no one to fill it. The job is unattractive because it’s difficult and low skill/low wage.
 
Hypocrisy since the whole US is mostly illegal immigrants from Europe who simply murdered the natives in order to steal their land.
Stole the land from who? The group of indians that controlled it at that time? Or the ones that ruled it before them? Or before them? Or the ones that had it stolen first?
There is no "illegal immigrant" back then because this place wasnt civilized with borders and naturalization.
A very very stupid post, rigby.
 
A job doesn’t become more attractive because there’s no one to fill it. The job is unattractive because it’s difficult and low skill/low wage.

You would be amazed what people will do when faced with the deli an of not feeding their families or having a roof over their heads. Americans that choose not to do these jobs would suddenly be very interested if the gravy train was slowed down. Currently, there is no need because people from other countries with no such gravy train come here to do those jobs and Americans are provided incentives NOT to work. If bleeding heart, idealistic Democrats have their way, illegal immigrants and asylum seekers will follow suit once they realize that they don’t have to work either. What do we do then?
 
You would be amazed what people will do when faced with the deli an of not feeding their families or having a roof over their heads. Americans that choose not to do these jobs would suddenly be very interested if the gravy train was slowed down. Currently, there is no need because people from other countries with no such gravy train come here to do those jobs and Americans are provided incentives NOT to work. If bleeding heart, idealistic Democrats have their way, illegal immigrants and asylum seekers will follow suit once they realize that they don’t have to work either. What do we do then?
So it’s not really about illegal immigrants, it’s just about these mythical welfare programs that you pretend you’re going to cut.

Seems like a bait and switch.

It’s a fantasy. There is not a large population ready to step into these jobs. Certainly not the millions that you want to deport.
 
So it’s not really about illegal immigrants, it’s just about these mythical welfare programs that you pretend you’re going to cut.

Seems like a bait and switch.

It’s a fantasy. You’d be amazed a what people will do to not work when they don’t want to.

What was that about “soft bigotry” directed towards Americans?

Again, they don’t want to work. Wow, imagine that. They would rather stay home watching the View, eating Cheetos, in the warmth of their government provided shelters. Do you think the illegals and immigrants that come here WANT to work or do you think they do so out of necessity?
 
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Here in this video is a Guatemalan man that was deported this week. This man was here in the U.S. illegally but he has been here for 19 years and he is married and has 2 children, one of which is 4 months old.



Imagine the consequences that his family is now going to suffer.

Is this Justice? Is this who we are now?



I agree, this is a sad case. If he has been living here for almost 20 years, and has his life set up here, it's a terrible thing to have to be told you will have to leave to go back to your home country. It's like starting all over again.

This is terrible.

Now, the left fights very hard for these people to come here illegally, they fight to keep those who have crossed illegally from being deported.

Perhaps, moving forward, you all should stop trying to advocate for people entering our country illegally.
 
This applies to 100’s of millions, if not billions, of people world wide. Do we let them all come and go as they please or do you think we must have some limits?
I stated what the problem the world is having. I did not state my position on it.

This is a problem that no administration has been able to resolve for 50 years. It is a difficult problem as we are supposed to be a Democracy and not an Autocracy.

Definitely, we need to have some limits and to a certain degree we do have them. The problem that continues to happen is that the parties can't seem to agree on them and institute them as they are. In addition, there is the humanity issue. Do we throw away our humanity or hold on to it, given that for centuries we have been the leaders of humanity.

I do not have a clear answer other than ask the parties to come to a compromise resolution that we can all live with.
 
What was that about “soft bigotry” directed towards Americans?

Again, they don’t want to work. Wow, imagine that. They would rather stay home watching the View, eating Cheetos, in the warmth of their government provided shelters. Do you think the illegals and immigrants that come here WANT to work or do you think they do so out of necessity?
You’re on record her repeatedly saying Americans are largely stupid.

There are not millions of people sitting on welfare the are going to step into the jobs vacated by illegal immigrants. This is a fantasy.

These jobs will go infilled. That will cause businesses to contract and close. That will result in lost jobs for middle class Americans.

This policy is all emotion and no logic.
 
I stated what the problem the world is having. I did not state my position on it.

This is a problem that no administration has been able to resolve for 50 years. It is a difficult problem as we are supposed to be a Democracy and not an Autocracy.

Definitely, we need to have some limits and to a certain degree we do have them. The problem that continues to happen is that the parties can't seem to agree on them and institute them as they are. In addition, there is the humanity issue. Do we throw away our humanity or hold on to it, given that for centuries we have been the leaders of humanity.

I do not have a clear answer other than ask the parties to come to a compromise resolution that we can all live with.

What did Ike do?
 
You’re on record her repeatedly saying Americans are largely stupid.

There are not millions of people sitting on welfare the are going to step into the jobs vacated by illegal immigrants. This is a fantasy.

These jobs will go infilled. That will cause businesses to contract and close. That will result in lost jobs for middle class Americans.

This policy is all emotion and no logic.

Quite the opposite. Using your logic, poor people from other countries will do what they need to do in order to feed their families and yet Americans won’t. If that is the case, why? Think.
 
Quite the opposite. Using your logic, poor people from other countries will do what they need to do in order to feed their families and yet Americans won’t. If that is the case, why? Think.
And I’m saying that any low skill American that needs a job already has a job.

I don’t think there’s tons of people waiting to fill these jobs. They just don’t exist. You invented them to justify deportations because you want deportations. Just like you invented the idea that there’s some massive welfare state that hasn’t existed since before Clinton and you invented a policy platform to get rid of the welfare that doesn’t really exist.

It’s a fantasy.
 
And I’m saying that any low skill American that needs a job already has a job.

I don’t think there’s tons of people waiting to fill these jobs. They just don’t exist. You invented them to justify deportations because you want deportations. Just like you invented the idea that there’s some massive welfare state that hasn’t existed since before Clinton and you invented a policy platform to get rid of the welfare that doesn’t really exist.

It’s a fantasy.

Would they work for a higher wage and because welfare programs for the able bodied were cut?
 
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