Zone1 do you believe that the earth is warming?

[Concerned American]

If the Earth is warming why hasn't this record been broken?


The official highest recorded temperature is now 56.7°C (134°F), which was measured on 10 July 1913 at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley, California, USA.

Also a bit of a stretch to claim that 'climate change' is valid with less than 150 years of records in earth's 4.5 billion year history.

 

[Foxfyre]

so there has been some change

Possibly. Depending on whether there is an El Nino or La Nina in the Pacific, the placement of the jet stream that determines when we get cold air coming down from the north, etc., the leaves may turn early next year. One year is no evidence at all in climate change. Several years of anomaly is commonplace meaning the anomalies really aren't all that much anomalies.

Eight billion people on Earth as opposed to the one billion that were here a little over 200 years ago almost certainly do have some effect on the environment where people are most concentrated. But the sun and Earth are pretty much going to do what they have always done meaning climate shifts are going to occur over time regardless of anything we do.

 

[DukeU]

While I agree 150 years is a short history to base their findings on, I disagree the Earth has been around 4.5 billion years.

The same people pushing CC came up with that number.

 

[Concerned American]

While I agree 150 years is a short history to base their findings on, I disagree the Earth has been around 4.5 billion years.

The same people pushing CC came up with that number.

I tend to agree with you, but through carbon dating, I think there is more credibility in that number than anything having to do with climate change---excuse me, weather.

 

[BackAgain]

i think there are signs to believe so.

what do you think?

I devoutly believe that parts of the Earth warm every spring and summer. Then they cool in their respective falls and winters.

 

[DukeU]

I tend to agree with you, but through carbon dating, I think there is more credibility in that number than anything having to do with climate change---excuse me, weather.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.

But, that's ok.

 

[midcan5]

Been here a long time and yes, it appears to be warming. Winters seem much more mild today.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

 

[Concerned American]

Been here a long time and yes, it appears to be warming. Winters seem much more mild today.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

LOL, was it humans that caused that climate change 800K years ago or did the earth have another cycle of climate change afterward?

 

[Zebra]

Been here a long time and yes, it appears to be warming. Winters seem much more mild today.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

there is now a shortage of snow

 

[Sparker]

Michigan is getting less snow and more rain. Later it will probably get more venomous spiders, venomous snakes, and other hazardous southern animals moving north. Between native trees dying and southern trees slowly spreading north, there may be a period of wood scarcity, which we can alleviate by planting southern trees now.

 

[Sparker]

The human part of climate change is enough to trigger heated denials of responsibility.

 

[Mr Natural]

I hope so!

 

[petro]

Warming carved the entire landscape I currently live in. Otherwise my house would be under a mile of ice, and there wouldn't be the 10,000 lakes that I currently enjoy.

The entire Mississippi valley in Minnesota still show the signs of the massive runoff that occurred during the glaciers retreating. With bluffs carved by the waters now miles apart on dry land. The scars left by the glacier retreat is impressive and massive and responsible for the creation of the Great Lakes. If anyone was around to witness the flooding they would have thought it was the end of the world.
But it wasn't.

Nothing on Earth is permanent, change is the order of nature. In another 10,000 years the landscape may be very different.

 

[Concerned American]

Warming carved the entire landscape I currently live in. Otherwise my house would be under a mile of ice, and there wouldn't be the 10,000 lakes that I currently enjoy.

The entire Mississippi valley in Minnesota still show the signs of the massive runoff that occurred during the glaciers retreating. With bluffs carved by the waters now miles apart on dry land. The scars left by the glacier retreat is impressive and massive and responsible for the creation of the Great Lakes. If anyone was around to witness the flooding they would have thought it was the end of the world.
But it wasn't.

Nothing on Earth is permanent, change is the order of nature. In another 10,000 years the landscape may be very different.

The same in the Northwest. WA was shaped due in large part by the melting of a melting ice plug that released a 600' wall of water that carved out the scab lands and coulees that make up the majority of WA. Everything that happens on earth has an effect on the outcome. It is the height of arrogance that people believe they can have a positive effect on what nature will ultimately produce. Their existence alone is counter to nature.

 

[Invisibleflash]

i think there are signs to believe so.

what do you think?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The same in the Northwest. WA was shaped due in large part by the melting of a melting ice plug that released a 600' wall of water that carved out the scab lands and coulees that make up the majority of WA. Everything that happens on earth has an effect on the outcome. It is the height of arrogance that people believe they can have a positive effect on what nature will ultimately produce. Their existence alone is counter to nature.

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Yeah, that huge event sure made for some amazing lakes for fishing for trout. We had our family fishing trips annually in the lakes south of Grand Coulee -- great trout!

The erratic boulders that rolled down on the flooding when that ice dam blew created some wonderful scenery.

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[petro]

The same in the Northwest. WA was shaped due in large part by the melting of a melting ice plug that released a 600' wall of water that carved out the scab lands and coulees that make up the majority of WA. Everything that happens on earth has an effect on the outcome. It is the height of arrogance that people believe they can have a positive effect on what nature will ultimately produce. Their existence alone is counter to nature.

Liberals are actually arguing for an impossibility. A static Earth that magically locks in the climate into today's current configuration because short lived and sighted humans stupidly built mega cities in historically flood prone areas.
Some cities may not exist in a thousand years.
Nature doesn't care about human development and since the dawn of civilization has destroyed numerous human endeavours.

 

[Zebra]

Apparently the data shows warming. Human influence is negligible.

7 of 12 say yes now

 

[justoffal]

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If it is, there is nothing that can be done about it by collecting more taxes.

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Love it!

 

[mex tex]

Probably warming, but so what? I did a research paper for a class on this subject.

The theme of my paper was "Warming is Good." The prof got so mad, but I backed my paper with peer reviewed research, stats from NOAA, stats from NASA, etc.

I found five areas where "warming" was positive or inconsequential.

1. More global food than ever. Source was FAO of the UN.

2. More global trees than in 1985. Peer reviewed article from Nature.

3. Stable or less extreme weather. Sources were NOAA, NASA, and peer review.

4. More polar bears than 60 years ago. One source was Susan Crockford. She is a zoologist who did her dissertation on the polar bear thyroid.

5. Fewer climate deaths than 100 years ago. The decline is precipitous.