CDZ Do schools fail on girls?

[anotherlife]

Maybe we should be putting more value on the type of work women do instead of wishing they would be the same as men.

This is an interesting concept, and goes directly against the feminism propaganda. Also interesting, why this aspect is never marketed. Most people don't even know what these items are. Do you have a few to throw in here? Would be interesting for discussion.

I think all one would need to do is look up the statistics on what programs women are entering at university level. Obviously, that is what they are interested in. Why is engineering valued more than teaching, for example? Perhaps many women go into teaching. Where would our nation be without educators? Or medicine, doctors? I know of many young women who enter the field of medicine. Why is that not promoted as much as engineering?

Dont you think the "interest" is due to socialization instead of normal progression?

Boys and girls are usually socialized separately, on purpose, for the past 6000 years. But at places where they are not separated, they can and do get along. This is rare, but this may be where girls who are interested in stem come from. So I agree with you here.

 

[anotherlife]

It is true that girls have a higher chance to get into college than males. But...don't we fail them it explorations and discoveries? For example, see how many girl astronauts exist and how many male ones? We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

Girls and women mature earlier and are more likely to value education, so they take advantage of it when given the chance, generally speaking. They are more socialized as well, so they trend more to ideals and respect for merit, so yes it's only natural for them to do better in structured environments like academia and corporate life when artificial cultural barriers are removed.

And no, schools aren't failing girls any more so than males; they generally suck at serving both sexes when they're badly run.

That would be a nice concept, if females didn't also have a roller coaster of hormones to deal with..

Yeah? What's men's excuse for their behavior?

Men never get excuses. Only women do. Hehehe.

 

[Asclepias]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

They are inherently sexist. At least the ones here in the US.

 

[alpine]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

Not in the same level

A very simple research, anybody can understand, shows gender equality brings boys and girls to the same level in analytical capabilities.

Global gender gap (ggp)
Global Gender Gap Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Anathema]

We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

My take is that our entire achool system us screwed up. We seriously over-educate most of our students, especially young women.

That's all I have to say on this topic.

 

[Votto]

It is true that girls have a higher chance to get into college than males. But...don't we fail them it explorations and discoveries? For example, see how many girl astronauts exist and how many male ones? We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

Oh dear, an inequity. Well be sure and pass lots of laws to fix it.

Writing laws is fun. There are more laws coming out every day than what even a supercomputer can scan. The best fun begins when one law puts you away for making a step in the same time as another law puts you away for not making that step. We have plenty of these already, and we need to grow them to bring the up in the light. This is however independent of the question of girls in STEM.

Wrong!

Obama and the federal government has taught us two things, there are only two ways to deal with problems in society. Pass a law or throw money at the problem, preferably doing both at the same time.

 

[anotherlife]

It is true that girls have a higher chance to get into college than males. But...don't we fail them it explorations and discoveries? For example, see how many girl astronauts exist and how many male ones? We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

Oh dear, an inequity. Well be sure and pass lots of laws to fix it.

Writing laws is fun. There are more laws coming out every day than what even a supercomputer can scan. The best fun begins when one law puts you away for making a step in the same time as another law puts you away for not making that step. We have plenty of these already, and we need to grow them to bring the up in the light. This is however independent of the question of girls in STEM.

Wrong!

Obama and the federal government has taught us two things, there are only two ways to deal with problems in society. Pass a law or throw money at the problem, preferably doing both at the same time.

I know an even better solution. Pass two laws, and print the money for it. You can't let the beltway industry go under, now do you? In a country of centrist legislations, you work with what you have, by the way.

 

[Votto]

In Finland, girls do better in math and science than boys
Because they have much higher gender equality

If you brainwash your children with commercials pushing sexiness down their throats, this is what you get; a stupid but good looking female crowd.......

But the left want so sexualize preteen girls in society. It's the only way they can break apart families so that those in society will be dependent upon the state that will increase their power base. Under aged girls now don't even have to tell parents if they are having an abortion so that they can continue to be abused sexually indefinitely.

 

[OldLady]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

They are inherently sexist. At least the ones here in the US.

It used to be, back in the dark ages when I went to school, that girls were not encouraged in the STEM fields. This has definitely improved as women have pushed their way into many places once deemed inappropriate or impossible for women, and they proved their worth. There are very few teachers left today who have the bias that only males can excel in math, science and technology. The sciences, especially, have many more women than 50 years ago. Technology, not so much, yet.
I disagree that the schools are inherently sexist. No more than the underlying sexist biases of our culture generally.
So you have particular examples?

 

[Votto]

It is true that girls have a higher chance to get into college than males. But...don't we fail them it explorations and discoveries? For example, see how many girl astronauts exist and how many male ones? We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

Oh dear, an inequity. Well be sure and pass lots of laws to fix it.

Writing laws is fun. There are more laws coming out every day than what even a supercomputer can scan. The best fun begins when one law puts you away for making a step in the same time as another law puts you away for not making that step. We have plenty of these already, and we need to grow them to bring the up in the light. This is however independent of the question of girls in STEM.

Wrong!

Obama and the federal government has taught us two things, there are only two ways to deal with problems in society. Pass a law or throw money at the problem, preferably doing both at the same time.

I know an even better solution. Pass two laws, and print the money for it. You can't let the beltway industry go under, now do you?

That's more like it! After all, it's monopoly money. Just print as much money till your hearts content and give it to government where you will never see it again and have zero accountability for the effectiveness of how successful the taxpayers money was spent.

 

[anotherlife]

It is true that girls have a higher chance to get into college than males. But...don't we fail them it explorations and discoveries? For example, see how many girl astronauts exist and how many male ones? We need to put more money in promoting adventure for girls. Your take?

Oh dear, an inequity. Well be sure and pass lots of laws to fix it.

Writing laws is fun. There are more laws coming out every day than what even a supercomputer can scan. The best fun begins when one law puts you away for making a step in the same time as another law puts you away for not making that step. We have plenty of these already, and we need to grow them to bring the up in the light. This is however independent of the question of girls in STEM.

Wrong!

Obama and the federal government has taught us two things, there are only two ways to deal with problems in society. Pass a law or throw money at the problem, preferably doing both at the same time.

I know an even better solution. Pass two laws, and print the money for it. You can't let the beltway industry go under, now do you?

That's more like it! After all, it's monopoly money. Just print as much money till your hearts content and give it to government where you will never see it again and have zero accountability for the effectiveness of how successful the taxpayers money was spent.

This is true for many countries outside the USA too. But, still, the only tool we have in a totalitarian centralized power structure, like the western democracies, that we write more laws, pay more lawyers, and keep fingers crossed. After all the girls numbers are increasing, as per posters on this thread, only not sufficiently, outside government employment.

 

[Votto]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

They are inherently sexist. At least the ones here in the US.

It used to be, back in the dark ages when I went to school, that girls were not encouraged in the STEM fields. This has definitely improved as women have pushed their way into many places once deemed inappropriate or impossible for women, and they proved their worth. There are very few teachers left today who have the bias that only males can excel in math, science and technology. The sciences, especially, have many more women than 50 years ago. Technology, not so much, yet.
I disagree that the schools are inherently sexist. No more than the underlying sexist biases of our culture generally.
So you have particular examples?

Nonsense. All girls need to know in school is how to put a rubber on a banana and that gay sex is cool. It is also beneficial for them to know that socialism and being just like Finland is the answer to all our problems and will cause us to live in utopia. That's why we send them to public schools.

It's really not that hard.

 

[there4eyeM]

Most posters participated in the failure, it would seem.

 

[Votto]

Oh dear, an inequity. Well be sure and pass lots of laws to fix it.

Writing laws is fun. There are more laws coming out every day than what even a supercomputer can scan. The best fun begins when one law puts you away for making a step in the same time as another law puts you away for not making that step. We have plenty of these already, and we need to grow them to bring the up in the light. This is however independent of the question of girls in STEM.

Wrong!

Obama and the federal government has taught us two things, there are only two ways to deal with problems in society. Pass a law or throw money at the problem, preferably doing both at the same time.

I know an even better solution. Pass two laws, and print the money for it. You can't let the beltway industry go under, now do you?

That's more like it! After all, it's monopoly money. Just print as much money till your hearts content and give it to government where you will never see it again and have zero accountability for the effectiveness of how successful the taxpayers money was spent.

This is true for many countries outside the USA too. But, still, the only tool we have in a totalitarian centralized power structure, like the western democracies, that we write more laws, pay more lawyers, and keep fingers crossed. After all the girls numbers are increasing, as per posters on this thread, only not sufficiently, outside government employment.

So what have we learned so far?

1. Print more money
2. Pass more laws
3. Sexualize our children.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Votto]

Most posters participated in the failure, it would seem.

The only failure comes from freedom given to us. Free trade, freedom to own guns, freedom of speech without being shouted down or prevented from organizing etc, these are the freedoms that need to be destroyed.

Conversely, everything the state does is perfect, and without it, we would all be dying in the streets.

 

[OldLady]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

They are inherently sexist. At least the ones here in the US.

It used to be, back in the dark ages when I went to school, that girls were not encouraged in the STEM fields. This has definitely improved as women have pushed their way into many places once deemed inappropriate or impossible for women, and they proved their worth. There are very few teachers left today who have the bias that only males can excel in math, science and technology. The sciences, especially, have many more women than 50 years ago. Technology, not so much, yet.
I disagree that the schools are inherently sexist. No more than the underlying sexist biases of our culture generally.
So you have particular examples?

Nonsense. All girls need to know in school is how to put a rubber on a banana and that gay sex is cool. It is also beneficial for them to know that socialism and being just like Finland is the answer to all our problems and will cause us to live in utopia. That's why we send them to public schools.

It's really not that hard.

What does any of that have to do with the OP? Can't you find another place to make that point, Votto?

 

[there4eyeM]

Only responsible individuals are entitled to what are called 'rights'.

 

[alpine]

In Finland, girls do better in math and science than boys
Because they have much higher gender equality

If you brainwash your children with commercials pushing sexiness down their throats, this is what you get; a stupid but good looking female crowd.......

But the left want so sexualize preteen girls in society. It's the only way they can break apart families so that those in society will be dependent upon the state that will increase their power base. Under aged girls now don't even have to tell parents if they are having an abortion so that they can continue to be abused sexually indefinitely.

Screw the left, screw the right, this is about children and the future, I am bipartisan on this subject.
And you should do the same...

Children of this nation are being brainwashed, and in a very despicable direction. Everybody should focus on this issue, regardless their political views.

 

[Votto]

Schools are not sexist; they fail both genders.

They are inherently sexist. At least the ones here in the US.

It used to be, back in the dark ages when I went to school, that girls were not encouraged in the STEM fields. This has definitely improved as women have pushed their way into many places once deemed inappropriate or impossible for women, and they proved their worth. There are very few teachers left today who have the bias that only males can excel in math, science and technology. The sciences, especially, have many more women than 50 years ago. Technology, not so much, yet.
I disagree that the schools are inherently sexist. No more than the underlying sexist biases of our culture generally.
So you have particular examples?

Nonsense. All girls need to know in school is how to put a rubber on a banana and that gay sex is cool. It is also beneficial for them to know that socialism and being just like Finland is the answer to all our problems and will cause us to live in utopia. That's why we send them to public schools.

It's really not that hard.

What does any of that have to do with the OP? Can't you find another place to make that point, Votto?

But I thought that all problems were solved by the federal government, so it does not really matter what it is you are discussing.

 

[Votto]

Only responsible individuals are entitled to what are called 'rights'.

The state will tell you what your rights are.

For example, currently you have the right to buy health insurance or be tracked down like a dog by the IRS. And if another left winged stooge is placed on the Supreme Court, you may soon loose your right to own a gun.