Do democrats agree with Mamdani's desire to seize the means of production ?

[Stryder50]

******* LIAR.
Post 54.

"Trump Crime Family fraud"(were there really such) is a misdemeanor compared to the piles of felonies by the Biden and Obama Crime Family Fraudsters".

You're delusional.
No one is stupid enough to buy a Trump flag, except for his cult.

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Sep 20, 2025 — Trump is already wielding his 'golden share' authority at U.S. Steel, overriding the company's plans for an Illinois plant, report says.

A national security agreement between the government and Nippon Steel gives Trump authority over a suite of changes, from factory closures and relocations to salary modifications and big-ticket operational shifts.

It marked another development in the government’s control over private industrial decisions.

Nvidia and AMD agreed to pay the administration 15% of their sales from chips sold to China. Other examples include Trump’s $8.9 billion stock deal with Intel, making the federal government the chipmaker’s top shareholder, and a deal with MP Materials that makes Defense Department the principal shareholder in America’s leading rare earth miner.

You can't read either it seems.
Your "finance.yahoo.com" shows it is the US Government not Trump personally, and last time IIRC "We the People" are the USA Government.

Lame try komrade traitor !

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You can't read either it seems.

You can't.
I showed your lying quote.

Your "finance.yahoo.com" shows it is the US Government not Trump personally, and last time IIRC "We the People" are the USA Government.

LOL, Trump PERSONALLY made those decisions.
Like that matters, IDIOT.


You accused Mamdani of doing what Trump is ALREADY doing.

Lame try komrade traitor !

You don't know WTF you're talking about.

 

[Dragonlady]

It would have been much better to push that truth before the election instead of having an online army of self proclaimed sub humans calling Zohran a "Terrorist" and trying to make the NYC mayoral election a referendum on 911, which 80%+ of NYC residents know was a hate hoaxed fraud.

Push what truth? That the NYP is a lying Murdoch owned rag????

New York Post - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words

mediabiasfactcheck.com

 

[Dragonlady]

You can't read either it seems.
Your "finance.yahoo.com" shows it is the US Government not Trump personally, and last time IIRC "We the People" are the USA Government.

Lame try komrade traitor !

So the US government take over of the means of by production isn’t communism writ large?

Just because it’s not Trump personally owning these companies, doesn’t make it less “communist”. It actually makes it MORE anti-capitalist than Trump personally in control.

If it was Trump personally owning or controlling these companies, that would be political corruption and self dealing.

Both go against every principle of capitalism and free enterprise.

 

[Hafar1014]

Loaded question. He does not want to seize the means of production. Did he say the government will seize factories?

Of course he wont say it but he dies plan to steal housing from landlords by destroying the value of their properties with rent control. They wont be able to afford to make repairs and keep up to code. Values will drop there will be backpatches and the city swoops in and buys them on the cheap.

 

[EMH]

That the NYP is a lying Murdoch owned rag?

Is Rupert Murdoch a conservative or a left wing Zionist Fascist?

 

[struth]

So the US government take over of the means of by production isn’t communism writ large?

Just because it’s not Trump personally owning these companies, doesn’t make it less “communist”. It actually makes it MORE anti-capitalist than Trump personally in control.

If it was Trump personally owning or controlling these companies, that would be political corruption and self dealing.

Both go against every principle of capitalism and free enterprise.

The US Govt owning a share in a company isn’t controlling the means of production

Clearly you never bought a stock

Not surprised

 

[Dragonlady]

The US Govt owning a share in a company isn’t controlling the means of production

Clearly you never bought a stock

Not surprised

Clearly you’re a moron to post such stupidity.

Nobody buys one share. And the US government doesn’t obtain shares of a corporation as a passive shareholder. There are always conditions attached to the issue of shares in a corporation.

Just look at the bailouts they finance.

 

[struth]

Clearly you’re a moron to post such stupidity.

Nobody buys one share. And the US government doesn’t obtain shares of a corporation as a passive shareholder. There are always conditions attached to the issue of shares in a corporation.

Just look at the bailouts they finance.

Woke it make happy if I had it plural?

Still doesn’t change what I said

And even the govt has voting rights like all the other shareholders it doesn’t mean. It control the means of production

It means it’s a share holder like all the rest

 

[Dragonlady]

Woke it make happy if I had it plural?

Still doesn’t change what I said

And even the govt has voting rights like all the other shareholders it doesn’t mean. It control the means of production

It means it’s a share holder like all the rest

How to tell us you don’t know Jack shit about economics without using the words.

Stupid, moronic and wrong about everything is no way to go through life.

The US government is never a “passive shareholder”. I

 

[struth]

How to tell us you don’t know Jack shit about economics without using the words.

Stupid, moronic and wrong about everything is no way to go through life.

The US government is never a “passive shareholder”. I

Even if they had a voting right they stikndotn control the means of production.

There are other shareholders


If there were no other shareholders and no other competition you might have a point

But once again you are clueless

 

[Dragonlady]

Even if they had a voting right they stikndotn control the means of production.

There are other shareholders

If there were no other shareholders and no other competition you might have a point

But once again you are clueless

As always, when you point your finger and insult someone, you have 4 more fingers pointing back at you. I was a corporate law clerk for more than 30 years. I’ve forgotten more about corporate structures than you ever learned, moron.

The shares issued to the government pursuant to corporate requests for funding/bailouts, are subject to the terms and provisions of the relative funding agreements.

Generally the government shares are “Special Shares” and are non-voting and non-participating (that means no dividends), but Special Shares have “special” rights. Like getting paid FIRST in the event of the winding up or dissolution of the company, before any other shareholder gets paid. Really, anything the government wants in order to provide funding.

The “golden share” of US Steel issued to the US government is a non-financial share which gives the government significant control over corporate decisions.

Keeping posting and proving how little you know about shares and their issuance.

 

[struth]

As always, when you point your finger and insult someone, you have 4 more fingers pointing back at you. I was a corporate law clerk for more than 30 years. I’ve forgotten more about corporate structures than you ever learned, moron.

The shares issued to the government pursuant to corporate requests for funding/bailouts, are subject to the terms and provisions of the relative funding agreements.

Generally the government shares are “Special Shares” and are non-voting and non-participating (that means no dividends), but Special Shares have “special” rights. Like getting paid FIRST in the event of the winding up or dissolution of the company, before any other shareholder gets paid. Really, anything the government wants in order to provide funding.

The “golden share” of US Steel issued to the US government is a non-financial share which gives the government significant control over corporate decisions.

Keeping posting and proving how little you know about shares and their issuance.

Oh wow, you had a job! I am actually very surprised. With that said, you continue to miss the entire point, owning shares in a company, Govt, or not, does not equate to controlling the means of production. The US Govt being able to make some decisions, doesn't equate to that either. The point of the Golden Shares in the case of US Steel, was because US Steel was being sold to a foreign corp, a japenese company. Golden shares, are the type of shares often sold to govts. It was created, in fact, to undo Govt ownership, and to denationalize companies, and privatize them

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/18/nx-s1-5435364/a-look-at-the-golden-share-agreement-in-the-u-s-steel-nippon-steel-partnership

TODD TUCKER: A golden share is a mechanism that governments around the world have used to ensure national ownership and control over strategically important industries. So, you know, there's companies like Volkswagen in Germany, entities like the Heathrow Airport in the U.K., where the government retains a golden share, which means that they have a say-so over any attempt to sell the company or sort of fundamentally reorganize what the company is trying to do.



INSKEEP: OK. So first, you have told me that this is not a name that was developed by the Trump administration, where a lot of things are named after gold - the gold card, and the gold decorations in the White House and so forth. This is, like, a normal term that people have used elsewhere in the world.



TUCKER: This is a normal term. And in fact, sort of the contemporary usage goes back to the United Kingdom, where during the Thatcher period, she instituted a policy of privatizing a lot of the publicly held companies. And sort of the compromise that she worked out was leaving the government with a golden share.

 

[Hafar1014]

Loaded question. He does not want to seize the means of production. Did he say the government will seize factories?

he does plan to take small food stores and his rent control plan will force landlords into bankruptcy allowing the city to buy their property on the cheap. Taking economic control is step by step incremental process. Free bus travel puts Uber and cabs out of business

 

[Dragonlady]

Oh wow, you had a job! I am actually very surprised. With that said, you continue to miss the entire point, owning shares in a company, Govt, or not, does not equate to controlling the means of production. The US Govt being able to make some decisions, doesn't equate to that either. The point of the Golden Shares in the case of US Steel, was because US Steel was being sold to a foreign corp, a japenese company. Golden shares, are the type of shares often sold to govts. It was created, in fact, to undo Govt ownership, and to denationalize companies, and privatize them

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/18/nx-s1-5435364/a-look-at-the-golden-share-agreement-in-the-u-s-steel-nippon-steel-partnership

TODD TUCKER: A golden share is a mechanism that governments around the world have used to ensure national ownership and control over strategically important industries. So, you know, there's companies like Volkswagen in Germany, entities like the Heathrow Airport in the U.K., where the government retains a golden share, which means that they have a say-so over any attempt to sell the company or sort of fundamentally reorganize what the company is trying to do.



INSKEEP: OK. So first, you have told me that this is not a name that was developed by the Trump administration, where a lot of things are named after gold - the gold card, and the gold decorations in the White House and so forth. This is, like, a normal term that people have used elsewhere in the world.



TUCKER: This is a normal term. And in fact, sort of the contemporary usage goes back to the United Kingdom, where during the Thatcher period, she instituted a policy of privatizing a lot of the publicly held companies. And sort of the compromise that she worked out was leaving the government with a golden share.

You just never tire of proving your stupidity and ignorance. Not only did I have “a job”, over the years I worked for two of the largest law firms on Bay Street.

You ought to read the transcript before posting. Tucker said that “golden shares” are absolutely giving governments control over the means of production, and veto power over its business decisions. He basically confirmed everything I posted.

Keep posting and making a complete fool of yourself. It’s very entertaining .

 

[struth]

You just never tire of proving your stupidity and ignorance. Not only did I have “a job”, over the years I worked for two of the largest law firms on Bay Street.

You ought to read the transcript before posting. Tucker said that “golden shares” are absolutely giving governments control over the means of production, and veto power over its business decisions. He basically confirmed everything I posted.

Keep posting and making a complete fool of yourself. It’s very entertaining .

I quoted it. No where does it say they have the means of production

In fact it was used to denationalize and give less govt control and privatize business that was nationalized

You really continue to show your ignorance