Discovery of stone seal from the time of King David proves Jewish roots to Jerusalem

[montelatici]

I just post facts with the academic source that proves the fact. You as usual, are full of crap. In any case Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine when the Mandate was approved. It doesn't matter how many European Jews had migrated to Jerusalem by then.

 

[Roudy]

I just post facts with the academic source that proves the fact. You as usual, are full of crap. In any case Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine when the Mandate was approved. It doesn't matter how many European Jews had migrated to Jerusalem by then.

You post crap Achmed, over and over and over. As my post indicated, Jews kept coming back despite the many invasions and pogroms, and it escalated during the Ottoman empire. With the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, and British control, that's when the floodgates to the Arab invasion of the region ware opened.

Interesting that for the last 700 years of Ottoman control there was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people. You are just a Jew hating troll that likes to post the same repetitive crap and get humiliated every time.

 

[montelatici]

I just post facts with the academic source that proves the fact. You as usual, are full of crap. In any case Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine when the Mandate was approved. It doesn't matter how many European Jews had migrated to Jerusalem by then.

You post crap Achmed, over and over and over. As my post indicated, Jews kept coming back despite the many invasions and pogroms, and it escalated during the Ottoman empire. With the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, and British control, that's when the floodgates to the Arab invasion of the region ware opened.

Interesting that for the last 700 years of Ottoman control there was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people. You are just a Jew hating troll that likes to post the same repetitive crap and get humiliated every time.

You just make things up. You are the one that gets humiliated. Posting nonsense does that. You are a Zionist propaganda monger. Fortunately, on this forum and everywhere else Zionist propaganda is being debunked for what it is. Propaganda.

 

[Roudy]

I just post facts with the academic source that proves the fact. You as usual, are full of crap. In any case Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine when the Mandate was approved. It doesn't matter how many European Jews had migrated to Jerusalem by then.

You post crap Achmed, over and over and over. As my post indicated, Jews kept coming back despite the many invasions and pogroms, and it escalated during the Ottoman empire. With the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, and British control, that's when the floodgates to the Arab invasion of the region ware opened.

Interesting that for the last 700 years of Ottoman control there was no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian people. You are just a Jew hating troll that likes to post the same repetitive crap and get humiliated every time.

You just make things up. You are the one that gets humiliated. Posting nonsense does that. You are a Zionist propaganda monger. Fortunately, on this forum and everywhere else Zionist propaganda is being debunked for what it is. Propaganda.

You haven't debunked jack shit other than post garbage you've posted a thousand times.

 

[montelatici]

Every bit of the propaganda you post has been debunked. The only thing I post is fact.

 

[Roudy]

What fact is that? That Jerusalem isn't first and foremost a Jewish city and the religious, spiritual, and cultural homeland of the Jews? Ha ha ha. You are sick.

Achmed Monte: "We Christians DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU JEWS!" <----- Hilarious, just hilarious! This must be how all "real" Christians talk! Well, maybe the NAZI ones....

 

[Hossfly]

Predictably, you all fall back to the annihilation of the Jebusites to try and discredit the idea that Jerusalem actually belongs to Israel.

When you conquer something, it becomes yours. That land is Jewish, and it always will be.

The land belonged to Christians far longer than it belonged to Jews, not mention centuries of non-Christian Roman ownership.

No, the land will revert to the local people soon enough. Demographics will see to that. Christian rule of Palestine through the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem lasted 192 years. Jewish rule will not last half of that.


Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories
Palestine-Israel Journal: <b>The Significance of Jerusalem: A Muslim Perspective</b>

Well, citing a Muslim perspective on the topic just destroyed your credibility on the subject, not to mention your math is terrible, seeing as how Jews comprise 75% of the Israeli population.

Google

Your argument relies on the misconception that all Jews were forced into diaspora when Rome came and blew the house down. That's not how it was. Jews still remained in the land after the fact. They didn't suddenly disappear and then reappear 1,800 years later demanding their land back, it was always theirs to begin with, and has been for 3700 years, this means their claim predates Christianity by about a millennium or so.
.

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

 

[Roudy]

The land belonged to Christians far longer than it belonged to Jews, not mention centuries of non-Christian Roman ownership.

No, the land will revert to the local people soon enough. Demographics will see to that. Christian rule of Palestine through the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem lasted 192 years. Jewish rule will not last half of that.


Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories
Palestine-Israel Journal: <b>The Significance of Jerusalem: A Muslim Perspective</b>

Well, citing a Muslim perspective on the topic just destroyed your credibility on the subject, not to mention your math is terrible, seeing as how Jews comprise 75% of the Israeli population.

Google

Your argument relies on the misconception that all Jews were forced into diaspora when Rome came and blew the house down. That's not how it was. Jews still remained in the land after the fact. They didn't suddenly disappear and then reappear 1,800 years later demanding their land back, it was always theirs to begin with, and has been for 3700 years, this means their claim predates Christianity by about a millennium or so.
.

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

Well, since your link says that David conquered the city, it appears that the local people were there before the Jews.

 

[montelatici]

Well, citing a Muslim perspective on the topic just destroyed your credibility on the subject, not to mention your math is terrible, seeing as how Jews comprise 75% of the Israeli population.

Google

Your argument relies on the misconception that all Jews were forced into diaspora when Rome came and blew the house down. That's not how it was. Jews still remained in the land after the fact. They didn't suddenly disappear and then reappear 1,800 years later demanding their land back, it was always theirs to begin with, and has been for 3700 years, this means their claim predates Christianity by about a millennium or so.
.

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Roudy]

Well, since your link says that David conquered the city, it appears that the local people were there before the Jews.

Yeah so?

 

[Roudy]

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Read what you copied, moron, it disproves your claim, "Capital of the People of Israel 3000 years ago" the Jews then mixed with the Cannanites who are considered an extinct people.
And the physical find confirms the existence of the City of David in the OP

Another humiliation!

Night shift Monte takes over.....

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyed Jerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

The Canaanites are all dead. What do you propose we do? Give it back to them? If that's the case, Bill and Ted will be here shortly to take you on an awesome journey to the past in their excellent phone booth.

When you possess something for 3700 years, it kinda becomes yours. Permanently. The Jews conquered Jerusalem, yes. But should they relinquish it for something they did 3000+ years ago? No. The fact that "someone was there before them" is irrelevant, and it doesn't disqualify Israel from its title to the city.

Under standing international law, Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

1) We start with the Balfour Declaration, and everyone who debates here on the Israel/Palestine forum on a routine basis knows what the Balfour Declaration is, which was a declaration by the British in 1917 saying they favored an "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." It was given force under the San Remo Resolution.

2) Speaking of The San Remo Resolution, it based itself on Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, declared that it was a "a sacred trust of civilization" to provide for the well-being and development of colonies and territories whose inhabitants are "not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world." That meant for all intents and purposes, the Jewish people.

3) Next, we move on with UN Joint Resolution 181 or the "UN Partition Plan of 1947." In the language it called for Jerusalem to be a "united" city. Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria were some of the 13 nations who voted against it. That nullified any force it had under international law. Those countries geographically surround Israel. As a result of their rejection of the plan, however, the logic follows that when they rejected the plan, they lost any chance to gain title of Jerusalem.

4) Lastly, we have UN Resolution 242, passed after the Six Day War. In it, the resolution authorized Israel to remain in possession of all the land until it had “secure and recognized boundaries.” When Israel set its boundaries, Jerusalem happened to be one of the cities within those boundaries. Before you start referring to the Soviet and French version of the resolution, or the lack of the words "the" or "all" as the Arabs pointed out, the English one was what was voted on, not either of the previous. Under international law, only English versions of these resolutions are followed.

Arthur J. Goldberg, the U.S. Ambassador to the UN in 1967 and a key draftee of
Resolution 242, stated:
“The notable omissions in language used to refer to withdrawal are the words the,
all, and the June 5, 1967 lines. I refer to the English text of the resolution. The
French and Soviet texts differ from the English in this respect, but the English
text was voted on by the Security Council, and thus it is determinative. In other
words, there is lacking a declaration requiring Israel to withdraw from the (or all
the) territories occupied by it on and after June 5, 1967. Instead, the resolution
stipulates withdrawal from occupied territories without defining the extent of
withdrawal. And it can be inferred from the incorporation of the words secure
and recognized boundaries that the territorial adjustments to be made by the
parties in their peace settlements could encompass less than a complete
withdrawal of Israeli forces from occupied territories.”

No resolution passed since the San Remo Conference, including 181 or 242 has called for Israel to surrender Jerusalem to the Arabs. Resolution 242, of which all the peace talks are based, never called for Israel to surrender Jerusalem to the Arabs. Like I said in my OP. Jerusalem does not belong to the Palestinians.

If you want to know more, look up Dr. Jaques Gauthier's 20 year research project into this issue. Dr. Gauthier has served as legal counsel to various governments including the governments of France, Spain, Mexico and Canada. In 2000 he was knighted by the government of France as Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite. Dr. Gauthier has been involved in the pursuit of human rights in China, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Myanmar and Canada. He has served as the Vice Chair, Acting Chair and President of the International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development (Canada)

 

[TemplarKormac]

And the "Green Line" was nothing more than an armistice line from 1948 to 67. Putting all your myths to bed right now.

 

[Challenger]

The land belonged to Christians far longer than it belonged to Jews, not mention centuries of non-Christian Roman ownership.

No, the land will revert to the local people soon enough. Demographics will see to that. Christian rule of Palestine through the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem lasted 192 years. Jewish rule will not last half of that.


Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories
Palestine-Israel Journal: <b>The Significance of Jerusalem: A Muslim Perspective</b>

Well, citing a Muslim perspective on the topic just destroyed your credibility on the subject, not to mention your math is terrible, seeing as how Jews comprise 75% of the Israeli population.

Google

Your argument relies on the misconception that all Jews were forced into diaspora when Rome came and blew the house down. That's not how it was. Jews still remained in the land after the fact. They didn't suddenly disappear and then reappear 1,800 years later demanding their land back, it was always theirs to begin with, and has been for 3700 years, this means their claim predates Christianity by about a millennium or so.
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Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

From an Israeli tourist site, really? Just more Zionist Hasbara.

 

[Phoenall]

Well, just saying that my credibility is lost, sounds like the "lady doth protest too much". Besides, it was the Christian perspective I was citing.

By the way your reading comprehension is a bit suspect. Non-Jews are the majority in the land Israel's Jews have control over. As the "Forward" article I linked confirms.

"....it turns out that Jews are now (as of Rosh Hashanah) outnumbered by Arabs under Israeli sovereignty by a grand total of 50,827. So the question is no longer whether or when the Jewish state will feature a minority ruling a majority. The question now is what to do about it...."

Read more: Jews Now Minority in Israel and Territories - Opinion

You see, we have had the opportunity to debunk nearly all of the propaganda you Zionists have tried to force feed the American public on.

There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine prior to the Zionist invasion.

Beyond citing partisan Zionist sources such as the Jewish Virtual Library, which states:

"The Romans then destroyedJerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora | Jewish Virtual Library

This is confirmed by official governmental (contemporaneous) reports available in the UN archives, such as the first report of the Mandatory issued in 1921 which states that prior to the Zionist invasion there were just a handful of Jews in Palestine.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Look everyone monte has admitted that the Jews ruled the land 3,000 years ago, that is twice as long as the arab muslims have been in existence.

 

[Phoenall]

Well, since your link says that David conquered the city, it appears that the local people were there before the Jews.

Yeah so?

Ask him if they were arab muslims and see if he says they were ?

 

[aris2chat]

seal of the first temple, hard for the existence of the temple to be denied. Not the first seal from that era to be found...........but Palestinian waqf lies will persist.
Time to let jews have access to the mount and the right to pray there.

Temple of god should not belong to any one group but to all people of faith.

Even for those without faith the seals prove the history in the bible is based on facts, not just myth. It proves jews have strong ties to the land.

 

[montelatici]

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Actually in 1850 Jerusalem had majority Jewish population, Achmed.

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Read what you copied, moron, it disproves your claim, "Capital of the People of Israel 3000 years ago" the Jews then mixed with the Cannanites who are considered an extinct people.
And the physical find confirms the existence of the City of David in the OP

Another humiliation!

Night shift Monte takes over.....

LOL the ignorant, uneducated Ruffles gets humiliated and tries to recover. Won't work Ruffles.

 

[Roudy]

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Actually it did not. But even if it did there were only a handful of Jews in Palestine.

The common propaganda bullet-point that "Jews outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem since 1850...is a known statistical fact," is false. Did you get that line from the "Freeman Center for Strategic Studies" or the aptly-named "Israel Hasbara Committee" or misinformation from encyclopedias written for children?

You should grab a calculator and do some simple math. The charts those "organizations" present alongside their own claims don't even match up - quite embarrassing, really.

Let's take a quick look:

According to the Mendon Association's 1824 census estimate, published in "The Christian Magazine," Jewish residents of Jerusalem numbered about 6,000, whereas Arabs (Muslims and Christians combined) numbered about 14,000.

Twenty years later in 1844 (note, this is after 1840), Jews numbered approximately 7,120 and Arabs numbered 8,390. These demographics are taken from Manashe Harrel's 1974 article "The Jewish Presence in Jerusalem through the Ages," which are cited repeatedly on Zionist websites.

According to a 1980 population study by Yigal Shiloh, it was found that in 1850 (ten years after 1840) the city of Jerusalem contained a total of 2,393 people, 1,763 of whom were Arab (1,025 Muslims and 738 Christians) and 630 of whom were Jewish. In the countryside surrounding Jerusalem of 116 towns and villages (and part of the greater Jerusalem district) lived 7,320 Arabs, 6,118 of whom were Muslim and 1,202 were Christian. No Jewish residents were reported.

Twenty-five years later (and almost three decades after 1840), according to a 1870 travel guide, the populations of Jews and Arabs were about even at around 9,000 each.

Seven years after that, in 1876 (36 years after 1840), according to Harrel, the Jewish population was about 12,000 in contrast to an Arab population of just over 13,000.

The Ottoman census of 1878 found that the total population of the Jerusalem, Nablus, and Acre districts was 472,455. Only 5.3% of the residents were Jewish (15,000 native-born Jews and about 10,000 foreign-born Jewish immigrants), as opposed to 94.7% of the residents who were Muslim and Christian Arabs (403,795 Muslims and 43,659 Christians).

Harrel then reports that in 1896, after years of massive Jewish immigration from Europe, 28,112 Jews lived in Jerusalem, along with 17,308 Arabs (8,560 Muslims and 8,748 Christians). This marked the first time – backed up by available records and reliable estimates – that Jews actually outnumbered Arabs in Jerusalem. And that was just Jerusalem because most of the invading Europeans settled in the city. They were still a tiny proportion of the population of Palestine.

I don't think there were many Palestinians were around during this period. Nor were there any Ay-rabs there.

The City of David is the birthplace of the city of Jerusalem, the place where King David established his kingdom, and where the history of the People of Israel was written. It is within walking distance from the Old City of Jerusalem and the Western Wall, and is one of the most exciting sites in Israel. Visitors come from all over the world to see the strongest physical connection between the stories of the Bible and reality, the place where the Holy City started.


In the year 1004 BCE, King David conquered the city from the Jebusites and established his capital there. It was here where the People of Israel were united under King David’s rule, here where the Holy Ark was bought and here where the First Temple was built by King Solomon, King David’s son.


Today the City of David is an archeological park that tells the story of the establishment of Jerusalem, its wars and hardships, its prophets and kings, and the history of the Jews during Biblical times. The remains of the city are present in the ancient stones and the thousands of shards that cover the pathways between the buildings. Among the archeological ruins are large elaborate houses that bear witness to the high social status of the city’s residents, Warren's Shaftleading to the water tunnel that was used to transport water from the Gikhon spring outside the city, and the remains of one of several towers that was used to defend the well. It is thought that King Solomon was anointed and crowned king of Israel at this site. Among the ruins found in the city were personal seals for signing letters and documents bearing the names their owners – people who were mentioned in the bible.

The City of David, Israel

According to Achmed Monte, the City of David was actually the City of Mohammad. Ha ha ha.

Rashlemum was not a Jew City. It was a Canaanite city. hahahaha

"The long history of Jerusalem began well before it was captured by King David and made into the Capital of the People of Israel 3,000 years ago."

Jerusalem: From Canaanite City to Israelite Capital | Jewish Virtual Library

Read what you copied, moron, it disproves your claim, "Capital of the People of Israel 3000 years ago" the Jews then mixed with the Cannanites who are considered an extinct people.
And the physical find confirms the existence of the City of David in the OP

Another humiliation!

Night shift Monte takes over.....

LOL the ignorant, uneducated Ruffles gets humiliated and tries to recover. Won't work Ruffles.

From Canaanite city to Israelite capital, capital of the people of Israel 3000 years ago. Today's Jews, not the Muslim Pali savages, are considered the people of Israel. And as the historical evidence proves they kept coming back to their spiritual, cultural and religious homeland.

Achmed Haniyah Monte gets humiliated again, yet he keeps denying it. Time for the douchebag to back to refurbishing used turntables for a living.