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Dirty Harry (1971), directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood as San Francisco Police Inspector Harry Callahan, is a classic of Right-wing cinema. Dirty Harry was hugely popular with moviegoers, spawning four sequels and a whole genre of films about tough cops whose hands are tied by the system and are forced to go outside the law in order to protect the public.

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He was the epitome of why I turned my brother down when he offered to help me become a Deputy Sheriff when I got out of the Navy. Not because I disliked him or his style, but, I know what I would have done if someone spit on me and I had a badge and a gun.
When I got out of the Navy, in Decemeber, 1968, spitting on cops was coming into vogue- that was (to my knowledge) prior to their becoming thugs like we see today. Of course we "see" more today than we did back then. But, when I was coming of age, cops were referred to as Peace Officers, or Police, or just Cops, or sometimes, The Fuzz- Law Enforcement is relatively new- Force being key- I use revenue generators as well- but, that was part of the argument the Founders used (revenue generation) used prior to the revolution-

If anyone bothered reading Against The Consesus Approach it woild save them showing their ignorance in public- maybe, although that seems to be an American trait-
 
Dirty Harry (1971), directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood as San Francisco Police Inspector Harry Callahan, is a classic of Right-wing cinema. Dirty Harry was hugely popular with moviegoers, spawning four sequels and a whole genre of films about tough cops whose hands are tied by the system and are forced to go outside the law in order to protect the public.

Review: Dirty Harry



He was the epitome of why I turned my brother down when he offered to help me become a Deputy Sheriff when I got out of the Navy. Not because I disliked him or his style, but, I know what I would have done if someone spit on me and I had a badge and a gun.
When I got out of the Navy, in Decemeber, 1968, spitting on cops was coming into vogue- that was (to my knowledge) prior to their becoming thugs like we see today. Of course we "see" more today than we did back then. But, when I was coming of age, cops were referred to as Peace Officers, or Police, or just Cops, or sometimes, The Fuzz- Law Enforcement is relatively new- Force being key- I use revenue generators as well- but, that was part of the argument the Founders used (revenue generation) used prior to the revolution-

If anyone bothered reading Against The Consesus Approach it woild save them showing their ignorance in public- maybe, although that seems to be an American trait-
You made a reasoned and wise decision.
If the films mentioned did anything constructive, they emphasized that society must face the consequences of giving authority and weapons to agents supposedly working in its interests. Once done, those agents will eventually find themselves confronted with having to be anti-social for society. There is no slope more slippery than that one.
 
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The remake was awful.
 
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giving authority and weapons to agents supposedly working in its interests
I suppose that depends on perspective- when I watch movies like Dirty Harry, I take notice of the limp wristed and weak minded bureaucrats- they remind me of some westerns I've read where the town's influential wanted a gun slinger for its law and order surrogate, until, there was law and order they didn't like-
 
Dirty Harry (1971), directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood as San Francisco Police Inspector Harry Callahan, is a classic of Right-wing cinema. Dirty Harry was hugely popular with moviegoers, spawning four sequels and a whole genre of films about tough cops whose hands are tied by the system and are forced to go outside the law in order to protect the public.

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He was the epitome of why I turned my brother down when he offered to help me become a Deputy Sheriff when I got out of the Navy. Not because I disliked him or his style, but, I know what I would have done if someone spit on me and I had a badge and a gun.
When I got out of the Navy, in Decemeber, 1968, spitting on cops was coming into vogue- that was (to my knowledge) prior to their becoming thugs like we see today. Of course we "see" more today than we did back then. But, when I was coming of age, cops were referred to as Peace Officers, or Police, or just Cops, or sometimes, The Fuzz- Law Enforcement is relatively new- Force being key- I use revenue generators as well- but, that was part of the argument the Founders used (revenue generation) used prior to the revolution-

If anyone bothered reading Against The Consesus Approach it woild save them showing their ignorance in public- maybe, although that seems to be an American trait-


Movies like this and Death Wish with Charles Bronson did more damage than good in my eyes. The reason it resonated was the vigilante, revenge-driven ideology. "Hey man, the politicians aren't going to save you, you're gonna need to get dirty if you roll in the mud with animals".

The reason I said it did more harm than good, is one can only guess how many A-holes became cops or were driven and even recruited with this underlying backdrop of societies almost approval. To this day in Canada, cops are unaccountable and make more than our Phd grads in hard sciences. It's become a racket that attracts liars, low lifes and son's of W's.

During these years, how many bad apple cops got away with abusing their wives, kids, or engaging in criminal activity that ruined others? "We are the good guys remember? You don't want to side with them". Before you know it, you have Canada...

I admit, they were before my time but I loved these movies as a kid, because "justice was served" was a simple enough solution in these movies. Human beings and free societies are far more difficult than these movies. I have an "eye for an eye" mentality in some regards, but, I also know how understood and easily and intentionally misrepresented people can become for the benefit of some low lifes career.

I'd much rather prefer the old Justice America cartoons be the guiding light, Even when the bad guys do evil and they egg you on, you follow "The American Way" and bring them to justice, not, send them to their graves. It's not easy and it's not supposed to be easy. Just as a doctor has to provide clinical bad news to a patient they have grown close to or someone in the military has to keep their head on to make the right decisions and provide the accurate, honest information, even as they are enraged at a buddies death; so must police be proper.

I've warned you all about the dangers of socialism. It's not off-topic to advise you that the worst elements of socialism aren't the high taxes and economic exploitation, it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".
 
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it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".
We have that already- Police Unions emphasize it and so does their *leadership*- in fact, Obama was big on militarizing the Police- I imagine it continues today- for several reasons, money being first and foremost- right next to power over others-

Society demands someone be held accountable in their society and in ours we've given that authority to black robed idiots (former lawyers) who rule their court with an iron fist- an iron fist is an iron fist no matter what political stripe it uses- we, society, have allowed justice to be blinded by vs being blind- justice is rarely the outcome in high profile cases (take note of our recent election crap)- or, O.J. Simpson, or Leonard Peltier- those are the two that come to mind- throw in the more recent Death Row convictions over turned by DNA evidence and you have justice blinded by- in a monkey see, monkey do world, follower monkeys emulate leader monkeys-

I suggest this is what happens when the person(s) harmed by a crime are not in the loop other than testifying in an iron fisted court of under the color of law- I prefer up close and personal reckoning- but, that aggrieves society- the law should be used to prove guilt, not sway opinion, but, with legal jargon and twisting, spinning and castigating simple English it does just that-

Dirty Harry, nor Charles Bronson's character were poltically correct- I approve their message.
 
it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".
We have that already- Police Unions emphasize it and so does their *leadership*- in fact, Obama was big on militarizing the Police- I imagine it continues today- for several reasons, money being first and foremost- right next to power over others-

Society demands someone be held accountable in their society and in ours we've given that authority to black robed idiots (former lawyers) who rule their court with an iron fist- an iron fist is an iron fist no matter what political stripe it uses- we, society, have allowed justice to be blinded by vs being blind- justice is rarely the outcome in high profile cases (take note of our recent election crap)- or, O.J. Simpson, or Leonard Peltier- those are the two that come to mind- throw in the more recent Death Row convictions over turned by DNA evidence and you have justice blinded by- in a monkey see, monkey do world, follower monkeys emulate leader monkeys-

I suggest this is what happens when the person(s) harmed by a crime are not in the loop other than testifying in an iron fisted court of under the color of law- I prefer up close and personal reckoning- but, that aggrieves society- the law should be used to prove guilt, not sway opinion, but, with legal jargon and twisting, spinning and castigating simple English it does just that-

Dirty Harry, nor Charles Bronson's character were poltically correct- I approve their message.
My fav line from death wish?
Kersey: Do you believe in Jesus?
Stomper: Yes I do.
Kersey: Well, you're gonna meet Him.
 
it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".
We have that already- Police Unions emphasize it and so does their *leadership*- in fact, Obama was big on militarizing the Police- I imagine it continues today- for several reasons, money being first and foremost- right next to power over others-

Society demands someone be held accountable in their society and in ours we've given that authority to black robed idiots (former lawyers) who rule their court with an iron fist- an iron fist is an iron fist no matter what political stripe it uses- we, society, have allowed justice to be blinded by vs being blind- justice is rarely the outcome in high profile cases (take note of our recent election crap)- or, O.J. Simpson, or Leonard Peltier- those are the two that come to mind- throw in the more recent Death Row convictions over turned by DNA evidence and you have justice blinded by- in a monkey see, monkey do world, follower monkeys emulate leader monkeys-

I suggest this is what happens when the person(s) harmed by a crime are not in the loop other than testifying in an iron fisted court of under the color of law- I prefer up close and personal reckoning- but, that aggrieves society- the law should be used to prove guilt, not sway opinion, but, with legal jargon and twisting, spinning and castigating simple English it does just that-

Dirty Harry, nor Charles Bronson's character were poltically correct- I approve their message.
My fav line from death wish?
Kersey: Do you believe in Jesus?
Stomper: Yes I do.
Kersey: Well, you're gonna meet Him.


"The Iceman", Richard Kuklinski was a hired hitman for the Mob who apparently killed untold numbers of people, once stated that he has no remorse about the people he murdered, except for one man.

He kidnapped some guy and held him at his home, he was tied up, probably in some remote area somewhere. He was begging for his life as powerfully as any the POS Kuklinski had murdered. Richard recalls this guy crying out loud "please God, save me".

Richard, being the sadistic evil son of a W that he was, told him "I will make a deal with you, I will leave for an hour and I will give your God a chance to save you. If he doesn't, I'm going to kill you"

He kept his word when he returned.

In this interview I watched it was the first time he showed any emotion. Of all the many he had killed for the Mob (I think it was hundreds), that sadistic treatment of another human, while spitting in the face of God; bothered him the most. He was probably just hedging his bets as he knew if hell existed, he would reside there.

Ironically, I think this guy was murdered in prison when after he agreed to testify against the Mob. He went so far as to tell his wife and lawyer he believed he was being poisoned. I think it was ruled something else when he passed. He's in hell now, wondering about it all.

Bottom line. An eye for an eye does indeed make the world blind. Justice and truth is hardly ever cut and dry, like in the movies. If revenge were the only focus I had in life, I'd have a long list...

Be honest and true, and call out those who violate humanity. The best revenge is exposure.
 
Be honest and true, and call out those who violate humanity. The best revenge is exposure.
True- but, I said a *reckoning*, not revenge- revenge is an eye for an eye, etc. A reckoning is setting a record straight in the eye of the beholder- if someone attacked one of my kids I would want a reckoning- the record being, you fucked with the wrong person. But, we authorize a court to establish justice- justice is allegedly supposed to be blind, but, in many instances it's blinded by- there is no reckoning, there is very little, if any revenge involved, and often there is no justice established, IF justice is strictly defined, which it isn't, ever, in a court that operates under the color of law vs the rule of law- and many courts do just that- which begs the question; Why?
 
Dirty Harry (1971), directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood as San Francisco Police Inspector Harry Callahan, is a classic of Right-wing cinema. Dirty Harry was hugely popular with moviegoers, spawning four sequels and a whole genre of films about tough cops whose hands are tied by the system and are forced to go outside the law in order to protect the public.

Review: Dirty Harry



He was the epitome of why I turned my brother down when he offered to help me become a Deputy Sheriff when I got out of the Navy. Not because I disliked him or his style, but, I know what I would have done if someone spit on me and I had a badge and a gun.
When I got out of the Navy, in Decemeber, 1968, spitting on cops was coming into vogue- that was (to my knowledge) prior to their becoming thugs like we see today. Of course we "see" more today than we did back then. But, when I was coming of age, cops were referred to as Peace Officers, or Police, or just Cops, or sometimes, The Fuzz- Law Enforcement is relatively new- Force being key- I use revenue generators as well- but, that was part of the argument the Founders used (revenue generation) used prior to the revolution-

If anyone bothered reading Against The Consesus Approach it woild save them showing their ignorance in public- maybe, although that seems to be an American trait-


Movies like this and Death Wish with Charles Bronson did more damage than good in my eyes. The reason it resonated was the vigilante, revenge-driven ideology. "Hey man, the politicians aren't going to save you, you're gonna need to get dirty if you roll in the mud with animals".

The reason I said it did more harm than good, is one can only guess how many A-holes became cops or were driven and even recruited with this underlying backdrop of societies almost approval. To this day in Canada, cops are unaccountable and make more than our Phd grads in hard sciences. It's become a racket that attracts liars, low lifes and son's of W's.

During these years, how many bad apple cops got away with abusing their wives, kids, or engaging in criminal activity that ruined others? "We are the good guys remember? You don't want to side with them". Before you know it, you have Canada...

I admit, they were before my time but I loved these movies as a kid, because "justice was served" was a simple enough solution in these movies. Human beings and free societies are far more difficult than these movies. I have an "eye for an eye" mentality in some regards, but, I also know how understood and easily and intentionally misrepresented people can become for the benefit of some low lifes career.

I'd much rather prefer the old Justice America cartoons be the guiding light, Even when the bad guys do evil and they egg you on, you follow "The American Way" and bring them to justice, not, send them to their graves. It's not easy and it's not supposed to be easy. Just as a doctor has to provide clinical bad news to a patient they have grown close to or someone in the military has to keep their head on to make the right decisions and provide the accurate, honest information, even as they are enraged at a buddies death; so must police be proper.

I've warned you all about the dangers of socialism. It's not off-topic to advise you that the worst elements of socialism aren't the high taxes and economic exploitation, it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".

I do not know anything about violent crime in Canada, but it's terrible in this country (even though liberals use statistics to prove that it's going down).

Since the 1960s, violent crime started to grow for certain reasons (which I shan't name, since everyone knows them). In the 1970s, violent crime in New York City was unbelievable. They NEEDED a Dirty Harry to clean up the cesspool. Believe you me, if there were a Dirty Harry operating today in our big cities, you would see the crime rate go down very fast. Bad people do bad things because they know they can, for there is no punishment.
 
Dirty Harry (1971), directed by Don Siegel and starring Clint Eastwood as San Francisco Police Inspector Harry Callahan, is a classic of Right-wing cinema. Dirty Harry was hugely popular with moviegoers, spawning four sequels and a whole genre of films about tough cops whose hands are tied by the system and are forced to go outside the law in order to protect the public.

Review: Dirty Harry



He was the epitome of why I turned my brother down when he offered to help me become a Deputy Sheriff when I got out of the Navy. Not because I disliked him or his style, but, I know what I would have done if someone spit on me and I had a badge and a gun.
When I got out of the Navy, in Decemeber, 1968, spitting on cops was coming into vogue- that was (to my knowledge) prior to their becoming thugs like we see today. Of course we "see" more today than we did back then. But, when I was coming of age, cops were referred to as Peace Officers, or Police, or just Cops, or sometimes, The Fuzz- Law Enforcement is relatively new- Force being key- I use revenue generators as well- but, that was part of the argument the Founders used (revenue generation) used prior to the revolution-

If anyone bothered reading Against The Consesus Approach it woild save them showing their ignorance in public- maybe, although that seems to be an American trait-


Movies like this and Death Wish with Charles Bronson did more damage than good in my eyes. The reason it resonated was the vigilante, revenge-driven ideology. "Hey man, the politicians aren't going to save you, you're gonna need to get dirty if you roll in the mud with animals".

The reason I said it did more harm than good, is one can only guess how many A-holes became cops or were driven and even recruited with this underlying backdrop of societies almost approval. To this day in Canada, cops are unaccountable and make more than our Phd grads in hard sciences. It's become a racket that attracts liars, low lifes and son's of W's.

During these years, how many bad apple cops got away with abusing their wives, kids, or engaging in criminal activity that ruined others? "We are the good guys remember? You don't want to side with them". Before you know it, you have Canada...

I admit, they were before my time but I loved these movies as a kid, because "justice was served" was a simple enough solution in these movies. Human beings and free societies are far more difficult than these movies. I have an "eye for an eye" mentality in some regards, but, I also know how understood and easily and intentionally misrepresented people can become for the benefit of some low lifes career.

I'd much rather prefer the old Justice America cartoons be the guiding light, Even when the bad guys do evil and they egg you on, you follow "The American Way" and bring them to justice, not, send them to their graves. It's not easy and it's not supposed to be easy. Just as a doctor has to provide clinical bad news to a patient they have grown close to or someone in the military has to keep their head on to make the right decisions and provide the accurate, honest information, even as they are enraged at a buddies death; so must police be proper.

I've warned you all about the dangers of socialism. It's not off-topic to advise you that the worst elements of socialism aren't the high taxes and economic exploitation, it's the social destruction where police go from members of the community to a covert occupying force of "us vs them".
They were a reaction to public dissatisfaction with criminals being allowed to run roughshod over law-abiding citizens. Just like mandatory sentencing guidelines and three strikes laws were. Then and to a slightly lesser extent now, criminals had far more rights than their victims.
 
A very underrated police drama which is similar to Dirty Harry is Cobra starring Stallone.
 

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