Did You Believe That “Diversity Is Our Strength”?

[alang1216]

You are confusing multiculturism with assimilation. You know, like Brit-born Paki child groomers in the UK.

You predict the future by ignoring the past.

 

[DennisPTate]

Of course it isn’t….unity is our strength.
It's just one more Democrat lie.


Whether it is the Communist Mamdani win in NYC, or the take-over by the Marxists of the Democrat Party, bringing in hordes of non-assimilating immigrants warrants the end of America.

We have seen it throughout history.

Victor Davis Hanson:
1.“I taught courses on political philosophy, I'd always spend time on Aristotle's concept of citizenship. He argued that citizens need something in common, some shared understanding of justice, of the good life, of what the political community is for. Without that common understanding, you don't have a political community. You just have different groups living in the same place, competing for resources and power. America used to be a city in Aristotle sense. Now it's becoming an alliance and alliances are fragile. They break apart when interests diverge. That's what's developing in America right now ….…understand that this pattern is playing out in cities across America. It's not just Minnesota. Look at Dearbornne, Michigan. Look at parts of California. Look at any place with large immigrant populations where politicians are rising to power based purely on ethnic identity.


2. Let me tell you one more historical example and then I'll explain why this matters. ....Carthage was a multithnic empire, Phoenician Corps, but they recruited soldiers from all over the Mediterranean. Numidians, Iberians, Gauls, whoever would fight for money. And it worked for a while. Carthage built an empire with mercenary armies.They conquered territory. They controlled trade routes. They became wealthy and powerful. But here's what happened. When Carthage got in real trouble, when they were fighting for survival against Rome in the Punic Wars, those mercenary armies weren't reliable. They had no loyalty to Carthage. They were fighting for money, not for civilization. And when the money ran out or when Rome offered them a better deal, they switched sides or went home or just stopped fighting. There's a famous incident after the first Punic War. Carthage couldn't pay its mercenaries. The soldiers mutinied. They besieged Carthage itself. The city that had hired them to fight its enemies nearly fell to its own army because there was no loyalty, no shared identity. No reason for those soldiers to suffer hardship for Carthage's sake.
Rome, meanwhile, had citizen soldiers, men who saw themselves as Romans first, who had a stake in Rome's survival, who fought harder because they were defending their own civilization, their own families, their own way of life. When Roman legions lost a battle, they regrouped and fought again. When they ran out of money, they fought anyway. When the situation looked hopeless, they kept fighting. Not because they were better warriors, but because they had something Carthaginian mercenaries didn't have, identity, loyalty, commitment to something larger than themselves. That's why Rome won the Punic Wars. That's why Rome conquered the Mediterranean while Carthage was destroyed so completely that the Romans literally salted the earth so nothing would grow there. The difference wasn't tactics or technology.The difference was identity. Now apply that lesson to America in 2025. You have politicians who see themselves as representatives of specific ethnic or religious communities. their loyalty is to that community, not to America as a whole. And you have voters who are starting to notice, starting to ask questions, starting to wonder if maybe there's a problem with this arrangement.


3. That's what's happening with (Ilhan)Omar. That's why Republicans are calling for her deportation. Not because they actually think she's going to be deported, but because they're making a point. They're saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking quietly. If you're more loyal to Somalia than to America, why are you in Congress? That question is being asked and it's not going away. The interesting thing is that Republicans used to be scared to ask that question. They'd be called racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, all the usual accusations.



4. But something's changed. They're asking the question anyway, and voters are listening because voters have figured something out. They figured out that accusations of racism don't actually answer the underlying question. Does this person represent America or does she represent Somalia? That's a legitimate question. And calling people racist for asking it doesn't make the question disappear.


5. Other politicians who built their careers on identity politics will face the same trajectory because America is waking up to the fact that identity politics doesn't work. It creates division. It prevents assimilation. It makes governance impossible.”



Happy Thanksgiving to those who love America.

Logic would indicate that your theory is accurate and it seems as if the bad guys are winning. I did hear somebody who had a near death experience during Covid 19, make the statement that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus was very dark and appeared to be somebody from the Middle East or India. This man also stated that the immigrants from India and the Middle East have been brought here to Canada to "set them on fire with truth" so that eventually they are able to help their home nations to become even more peaceful than Canada is so far.

I know that this is the same man who had that near death experience during Covid 19 but I am not certain if this is the correct youtube video or not.

Yes, I checked this again and I am almost certain that this is the one where he describes his near death experience.



Encounter His Glory Night | Daniel Soto | March 9, 2024

 

[Unkotare]

Yeah, I wrote it. Is it not true? And I suppose the irony escapes you. Complaining about diversity when you ain't White, you ain't Anglo/Saxon, you probably ain't Protestant.

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[marvin martian]

Of course it isn’t….unity is our strength.
It's just one more Democrat lie.


Whether it is the Communist Mamdani win in NYC, or the take-over by the Marxists of the Democrat Party, bringing in hordes of non-assimilating immigrants warrants the end of America.

We have seen it throughout history.

Victor Davis Hanson:
1.“I taught courses on political philosophy, I'd always spend time on Aristotle's concept of citizenship. He argued that citizens need something in common, some shared understanding of justice, of the good life, of what the political community is for. Without that common understanding, you don't have a political community. You just have different groups living in the same place, competing for resources and power. America used to be a city in Aristotle sense. Now it's becoming an alliance and alliances are fragile. They break apart when interests diverge. That's what's developing in America right now ….…understand that this pattern is playing out in cities across America. It's not just Minnesota. Look at Dearbornne, Michigan. Look at parts of California. Look at any place with large immigrant populations where politicians are rising to power based purely on ethnic identity.


2. Let me tell you one more historical example and then I'll explain why this matters. ....Carthage was a multithnic empire, Phoenician Corps, but they recruited soldiers from all over the Mediterranean. Numidians, Iberians, Gauls, whoever would fight for money. And it worked for a while. Carthage built an empire with mercenary armies.They conquered territory. They controlled trade routes. They became wealthy and powerful. But here's what happened. When Carthage got in real trouble, when they were fighting for survival against Rome in the Punic Wars, those mercenary armies weren't reliable. They had no loyalty to Carthage. They were fighting for money, not for civilization. And when the money ran out or when Rome offered them a better deal, they switched sides or went home or just stopped fighting. There's a famous incident after the first Punic War. Carthage couldn't pay its mercenaries. The soldiers mutinied. They besieged Carthage itself. The city that had hired them to fight its enemies nearly fell to its own army because there was no loyalty, no shared identity. No reason for those soldiers to suffer hardship for Carthage's sake.
Rome, meanwhile, had citizen soldiers, men who saw themselves as Romans first, who had a stake in Rome's survival, who fought harder because they were defending their own civilization, their own families, their own way of life. When Roman legions lost a battle, they regrouped and fought again. When they ran out of money, they fought anyway. When the situation looked hopeless, they kept fighting. Not because they were better warriors, but because they had something Carthaginian mercenaries didn't have, identity, loyalty, commitment to something larger than themselves. That's why Rome won the Punic Wars. That's why Rome conquered the Mediterranean while Carthage was destroyed so completely that the Romans literally salted the earth so nothing would grow there. The difference wasn't tactics or technology.The difference was identity. Now apply that lesson to America in 2025. You have politicians who see themselves as representatives of specific ethnic or religious communities. their loyalty is to that community, not to America as a whole. And you have voters who are starting to notice, starting to ask questions, starting to wonder if maybe there's a problem with this arrangement.


3. That's what's happening with (Ilhan)Omar. That's why Republicans are calling for her deportation. Not because they actually think she's going to be deported, but because they're making a point. They're saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking quietly. If you're more loyal to Somalia than to America, why are you in Congress? That question is being asked and it's not going away. The interesting thing is that Republicans used to be scared to ask that question. They'd be called racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, all the usual accusations.



4. But something's changed. They're asking the question anyway, and voters are listening because voters have figured something out. They figured out that accusations of racism don't actually answer the underlying question. Does this person represent America or does she represent Somalia? That's a legitimate question. And calling people racist for asking it doesn't make the question disappear.


5. Other politicians who built their careers on identity politics will face the same trajectory because America is waking up to the fact that identity politics doesn't work. It creates division. It prevents assimilation. It makes governance impossible.”



Happy Thanksgiving to those who love America.

The left is currently willing to tolerate mass shootings, assassinations, female genital mutilation, honor killings, female subjugation, pedophilia, child marriage, human trafficking, and religious persecution of Jews and Christians in exchange for some more votes.

Until that changes, nothing else will.

 

[midcan5]

Tough topic, overall yes, diversity is a positive for it keeps stagnation away. I'm old enough to remember when it became an issue in business. Minorities wanted a say, a job, a promotion etc etc. Corporations were afraid of being sued or protested. So quotas came about. Wonder if they still exist or are we now diverse. Of course what that means is debatable and unclear. For instance why do we have a dopey white guy as president asks the diversity guru - I'm smiling.

America’s Diversity Is the Strength of Our Republic

The people who believe that America’s diversity is the strength of our republic have an obligation to speak up and out in its defense.

www.americanprogress.org

America's diversity is our greatest strength.

September 15 through October 15 is Hispanic Heritage Month, a time to celebrate the history and contributions of Hispanic Americans. This month recognizes individuals with roots in Spain, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Central and South America – a group rich in diversity, and united by common desires.

carson.house.gov

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/opinion/2024/09/01/opinion-one-of-americas-greatest-strengths-is-its-diversity/74952716007/

 

[Leo123]

Of course it isn’t….unity is our strength.
It's just one more Democrat lie.


Whether it is the Communist Mamdani win in NYC, or the take-over by the Marxists of the Democrat Party, bringing in hordes of non-assimilating immigrants warrants the end of America.

We have seen it throughout history.

Victor Davis Hanson:
1.“I taught courses on political philosophy, I'd always spend time on Aristotle's concept of citizenship. He argued that citizens need something in common, some shared understanding of justice, of the good life, of what the political community is for. Without that common understanding, you don't have a political community. You just have different groups living in the same place, competing for resources and power. America used to be a city in Aristotle sense. Now it's becoming an alliance and alliances are fragile. They break apart when interests diverge. That's what's developing in America right now ….…understand that this pattern is playing out in cities across America. It's not just Minnesota. Look at Dearbornne, Michigan. Look at parts of California. Look at any place with large immigrant populations where politicians are rising to power based purely on ethnic identity.


2. Let me tell you one more historical example and then I'll explain why this matters. ....Carthage was a multithnic empire, Phoenician Corps, but they recruited soldiers from all over the Mediterranean. Numidians, Iberians, Gauls, whoever would fight for money. And it worked for a while. Carthage built an empire with mercenary armies.They conquered territory. They controlled trade routes. They became wealthy and powerful. But here's what happened. When Carthage got in real trouble, when they were fighting for survival against Rome in the Punic Wars, those mercenary armies weren't reliable. They had no loyalty to Carthage. They were fighting for money, not for civilization. And when the money ran out or when Rome offered them a better deal, they switched sides or went home or just stopped fighting. There's a famous incident after the first Punic War. Carthage couldn't pay its mercenaries. The soldiers mutinied. They besieged Carthage itself. The city that had hired them to fight its enemies nearly fell to its own army because there was no loyalty, no shared identity. No reason for those soldiers to suffer hardship for Carthage's sake.
Rome, meanwhile, had citizen soldiers, men who saw themselves as Romans first, who had a stake in Rome's survival, who fought harder because they were defending their own civilization, their own families, their own way of life. When Roman legions lost a battle, they regrouped and fought again. When they ran out of money, they fought anyway. When the situation looked hopeless, they kept fighting. Not because they were better warriors, but because they had something Carthaginian mercenaries didn't have, identity, loyalty, commitment to something larger than themselves. That's why Rome won the Punic Wars. That's why Rome conquered the Mediterranean while Carthage was destroyed so completely that the Romans literally salted the earth so nothing would grow there. The difference wasn't tactics or technology.The difference was identity. Now apply that lesson to America in 2025. You have politicians who see themselves as representatives of specific ethnic or religious communities. their loyalty is to that community, not to America as a whole. And you have voters who are starting to notice, starting to ask questions, starting to wonder if maybe there's a problem with this arrangement.


3. That's what's happening with (Ilhan)Omar. That's why Republicans are calling for her deportation. Not because they actually think she's going to be deported, but because they're making a point. They're saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking quietly. If you're more loyal to Somalia than to America, why are you in Congress? That question is being asked and it's not going away. The interesting thing is that Republicans used to be scared to ask that question. They'd be called racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, all the usual accusations.



4. But something's changed. They're asking the question anyway, and voters are listening because voters have figured something out. They figured out that accusations of racism don't actually answer the underlying question. Does this person represent America or does she represent Somalia? That's a legitimate question. And calling people racist for asking it doesn't make the question disappear.


5. Other politicians who built their careers on identity politics will face the same trajectory because America is waking up to the fact that identity politics doesn't work. It creates division. It prevents assimilation. It makes governance impossible.”



Happy Thanksgiving to those who love America.

To most sane folks, diversity means we are not all the same but we recognize our differences and even use those differences to benefit all people.

To the Marxist-Left-Democrat it means DIVIDING people by their differences which is exactly opposite from what they claim. It's another Marxist tactic of seizing the media and using it to confuse a populace and then interject rivalry based on differences in order to tear down a society and supplant it with Marxism. They also like to redefine words.