Did we pay $1,191,200 for 2 pounds of frozen ham?

[CrusaderFrank]

It may be part of Obama Plan to jump start the economy.

I suspect people will find delis charging $50,000 to 65,000 for a ham sandwich today.

The deli has mo' money and hires mo' people...

Fiendishly clever, no?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

How many doors did the 1.4 million fix?
Contracts - Recipient Summary | Recovery.gov

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Statement from Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack

"Through the Recovery Act, the U.S. Department of Agriculture has made $100 million available to the states for The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP), which acquires food that is distributed to local organizations that assist the needy – including food banks, food pantries, and soup kitchens.

The Recovery Act funds referenced in press reports allowed states to purchase ham, cheese and dairy products for these food banks, soup kitchens and food pantries that provide assistance to people who otherwise do not have access to food. This program will help reduce hunger of those hardest hit by the current economic recession.

The references to "2 pound frozen ham sliced" are to the sizes of the packaging. Press reports suggesting that the Recovery Act spent $1.191 million to buy "2 pounds of ham" are wrong. In fact, the contract in question purchased 760,000 pounds of ham for $1.191m, at a cost of approximately $1.50 per pound. In terms of the dairy purchase referenced, USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) purchased 837,936 pounds of mozzarella cheese and 4,039,200 pounds of processed cheese.

While the principal purpose of these expenditures is to provide food to those hardest hit by these tough times, the purchases also provide a modest economic benefit of benefiting Americans working at food retailers, manufacturers and transportation companies as well as the farmers and ranchers who produce our food supply."

Great, government ham and cheese.

 

[Angel Heart]

We don't need more hand outs.... So this is all part of their huge hand out programs... What about actual hand ups? How is giving them ham going to teach them to bring home the bacon?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

HOW TO CATCH WILD PIGS
January 12, 2008 · 15 Comments

There was a Chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab the Prof noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist government. In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question.


He asked, ‘ Do you know how to catch wild pigs?’ The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. ‘You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how To forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms- just a little at a time.

One should always remember ‘There is no such thing as a free Lunch! Also, a politician will never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.


HOW TO CATCH WILD PIGS « D=S
I just don’t know how some people don’t get this..

 

[asaratis]

Statement from Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack

"Through the Recovery Act, the U.S. Department of Agriculture has made $100 million available to the states for The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP), which acquires food that is distributed to local organizations that assist the needy – including food banks, food pantries, and soup kitchens.

The Recovery Act funds referenced in press reports allowed states to purchase ham, cheese and dairy products for these food banks, soup kitchens and food pantries that provide assistance to people who otherwise do not have access to food. This program will help reduce hunger of those hardest hit by the current economic recession.

The references to "2 pound frozen ham sliced" are to the sizes of the packaging. Press reports suggesting that the Recovery Act spent $1.191 million to buy "2 pounds of ham" are wrong. In fact, the contract in question purchased 760,000 pounds of ham for $1.191m, at a cost of approximately $1.50 per pound. In terms of the dairy purchase referenced, USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) purchased 837,936 pounds of mozzarella cheese and 4,039,200 pounds of processed cheese.

While the principal purpose of these expenditures is to provide food to those hardest hit by these tough times, the purchases also provide a modest economic benefit of benefiting Americans working at food retailers, manufacturers and transportation companies as well as the farmers and ranchers who produce our food supply."

I had guessed the "2 pounds" referred to the size of the packaging when I heard the story on the radio. Nonetheless, look at who's getting the money and you find a list of contributors to the campaign funds of their representatives in congress.

It is interesting also to study the payouts as they relate to which Presidential candidate won the county getting the money. It appears that counties that voted Obama are getting twice the funds per capita as those that voted McCain.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

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I had guessed the "2 pounds" referred to the size of the packaging when I heard the story on the radio. Nonetheless, look at who's getting the money and you find a list of contributors to the campaign funds of their representatives in congress.

It is interesting also to study the payouts as they relate to which Presidential candidate won the county getting the money. It appears that counties that voted Obama are getting twice the funds per capita as those that voted McCain.

I, going to go with Duh.
I think you are right on top of it.
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[editec]

We don't need more hand outs.... So this is all part of their huge hand out programs... What about actual hand ups? How is giving them ham going to teach them to bring home the bacon?

Give a man a ham and he eats for a day.

But teach a man to be a ham and he's got an acting career.

 

[chanel]

No pork ... huh?

The canned pork was $16 million.

___________________________________________________

LAKESIDE FOODS INC
Clarification of Codes

Award Overview
Agency Name Department of Agriculture Project Location PLAINVIEW
Contract Number AG3J14120297195 Project Location - State MN
Funding Amount $16,784,272 Project Location - Zip Code 55964-1059
Completion Date 2009-06-30 Congressional District MN-01


Recipient Information (Award)
Recipient Name LAKESIDE FOODS INC Recipient Address 808 HAMILTON ST
Recipient City MANITOWOC Recipient State WISCONSIN
Recipient Zip Code 54220-5326 Congressional District WISCONSIN-06


Description of Work/Service performed
CANNED PORK

You can't make this shit up......

 

[edthecynic]

It wouldn't surprise me. And that would be frozen ham sliced. I'd have done it for $499,754.83.

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

 

[asaratis]

It wouldn't surprise me. And that would be frozen ham sliced. I'd have done it for $499,754.83.

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

All this information is posted on a government website Recovery.gov and is not being made up by Drudge or anyone like him.

Get a grip on reality. The "stimulus package" was nothing more than a super pork bill designed to let incumbent congressmen grease the skids for their next "election". It has been a stimulus for the congressmen...not for the country.

It is too simple for Pelosi and Cronies to reduce or suspend taxation in order to let the American people spend money on what they really need...and this method does not increase the control of the governing few over the governed, so it hasn't happened.

The second "stimulus plan" will likely be more of the same.

A broke, socialistic country is emerging on the scene...thanks to Obama worshipers and other deluded followers of Karl Marx.

 

[Angel Heart]

It wouldn't surprise me. And that would be frozen ham sliced. I'd have done it for $499,754.83.

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

The data is coming off of a .gov site...

 

[Navy1960]

First of all, while I could care less about the costs of Ham, it points to a bigger issue. The bigger issue involved is the reasoning for a Stimulus that would pay for such things , as these and turtle tunnels, salt marsh mice studies, signs for highways proclaiming your stimulus money is at work, the list is endless, then turn around and tell you and I that they are competent enough to manage a Trillion dollar healthcare program. The fact is eventually the bill is going to come due for all this moronic spending and when it does the US dollar will be virtually worthless. So in the end perhaps you may be facing a 50K ham sandwich at that deli after all.

 

[edthecynic]

It wouldn't surprise me. And that would be frozen ham sliced. I'd have done it for $499,754.83.

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

All this information is posted on a government website Recovery.gov and is not being made up by Drudge or anyone like him.

Get a grip on reality. The "stimulus package" was nothing more than a super pork bill designed to let incumbent congressmen grease the skids for their next "election". It has been a stimulus for the congressmen...not for the country.

It is too simple for Pelosi and Cronies to reduce or suspend taxation in order to let the American people spend money on what they really need...and this method does not increase the control of the governing few over the governed, so it hasn't happened.

The second "stimulus plan" will likely be more of the same.

A broke, socialistic country is emerging on the scene...thanks to Obama worshipers and other deluded followers of Karl Marx.

Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

 

[chanel]

For that kind of money the least thing they could do is sprinkle some of that ham around the mosques.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

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Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

Why is the government buying ham?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

All this information is posted on a government website Recovery.gov and is not being made up by Drudge or anyone like him.

Get a grip on reality. The "stimulus package" was nothing more than a super pork bill designed to let incumbent congressmen grease the skids for their next "election". It has been a stimulus for the congressmen...not for the country.

It is too simple for Pelosi and Cronies to reduce or suspend taxation in order to let the American people spend money on what they really need...and this method does not increase the control of the governing few over the governed, so it hasn't happened.

The second "stimulus plan" will likely be more of the same.

A broke, socialistic country is emerging on the scene...thanks to Obama worshipers and other deluded followers of Karl Marx.

Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

You need to stop snorting the Obama Kool Aid, it's frying your brains.

 

[Maple]

isn't it wonderful, that stimulus bill working for you.


CHANGE- WE ALL CAN'T BELEIVE IN.

 

[edthecynic]

[qu

Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

Why is the government buying ham?

Why are you trying to change the subject away from the quality of information that comes from CON$ervative sources and the gullibility and hate of those STUPID enough to parrot such sources???

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The gullibility of CON$ never surprises me.
How STUPID do you have to be to believe anything from any CON$servative source, especially a proven liar like Drudge???

All this information is posted on a government website Recovery.gov and is not being made up by Drudge or anyone like him.

Get a grip on reality. The "stimulus package" was nothing more than a super pork bill designed to let incumbent congressmen grease the skids for their next "election". It has been a stimulus for the congressmen...not for the country.

It is too simple for Pelosi and Cronies to reduce or suspend taxation in order to let the American people spend money on what they really need...and this method does not increase the control of the governing few over the governed, so it hasn't happened.

The second "stimulus plan" will likely be more of the same.

A broke, socialistic country is emerging on the scene...thanks to Obama worshipers and other deluded followers of Karl Marx.

Again, just how STUPID do you have to be to even think for 1 second that that was the price paid for a mere 2 lbs of ham????
Do you really think Drudge didn't at least try to confirm whether it was for only 2 lbs of ham??? And if you believe he didn't make any attempt to follow up, what does that say about CON$ervative media???
CON$ hate America soooooo much that they want to believe everything bad about its government no matter how obviously wrong the claim might be.

So, how much Gubbamint ham did you actually get and do you really have ham and American cheese on white bread with mayo?