Did Walz just cross a line? Calls for recording ICE.

[martybegan]

You're inventing "nuance" to twist reality and bend it to your agenda.

The agenda is to get illegals and you don't give a **** how it happens. If that means violating the law, the constitution and lying about it, so be it.

The Trump administration and you authoritarians don't want ICE agents thinking they will have any repercussions for any illegal activities as long as they're helping with the agenda.

So if an ICE agent beats a guy filming an arrest without cause, you don't care. You'll just tell yourself whatever you need to ignore it.

******* cowards.

No I'm making a point you don't agree with, and like most leftists you simply can't handle that.

The agenda is to enforce existing federal immigration laws.

99.99% of what they are doing is perfectly legal. the other 0.01% can be handled by the existing legal systems.

"without cause"

 

[Nostra]

As I pointed out, the two shots from the side/rear while Good was driving away, were not legal.

Prove it.

 

[Nostra]

The average person needs to understand that Proud Boys ICE agents are not like cops. They're not thinking about coexisting with the public, hence the masks.

They're far more dangerous and aggressive. They're highly ideological. They are under the control of an aggressive authoritarian.

And again, "history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme". The world has seen this all before.

 

[Marener]

No I'm making a point you don't agree with, and like most leftists you simply can't handle that.

It's gibberish, which I pointed out. You're bending reality to avoid admitting that the Trump administration is spouting lies.

The biggest sin in MAGA is to admit you're wrong.

The agenda is to enforce existing federal immigration laws.

99.99% of what they are doing is perfectly legal. the other 0.01% can be handled by the existing legal systems.

"without cause"

The agenda is so important, you don't give a shit about what laws you break in the process.

The existing legal system can't handle an agency that thinks they have absolute immunity. Our legal system depends on law enforcement WANTING to follow the law. I don't think these guys care.

 

[martybegan]

It's gibberish, which I pointed out. You're bending reality to avoid admitting that the Trump administration is spouting lies.

The biggest sin in MAGA is to admit you're wrong.

The agenda is so important, you don't give a shit about what laws you break in the process.

The existing legal system can't handle an agency that thinks they have absolute immunity. Our legal system depends on law enforcement WANTING to follow the law. I don't think these guys care.

Again, not my problem you don't have the mental horsepower to understand it.

I'm not wrong in this case.

Even absolute immunity is situational.

words mean things.

 

[Marener]

Again, not my problem you don't have the mental horsepower to understand it.

I'm not wrong in this case.

Even absolute immunity is situational.

words mean things.

I see exactly what you're doing. Maybe you don't even realize what MAGA does to your logic. Maybe you're so indoctrinated that you can't understand you're distorting and twisting because you can't ever admit being wrong.

If it's situational, it's not absolute immunity. You will not find any legitimate source claiming that federal enforcement has absolute immunity because they don't.

Absolute means absolute.

 

[martybegan]

I see exactly what you're doing. Maybe you don't even realize what MAGA does to your logic. Maybe you're so indoctrinated that you can't understand you're distorting and twisting because you can't ever admit being wrong.

If it's situational, it's not absolute immunity. You will not find any legitimate source claiming that federal enforcement has absolute immunity because they don't.

Absolute means absolute.

Semantics. The basic principles and pathways I described are correct procedurally and factually.

 

[Marener]

Semantics. The basic principles and pathways I described are correct procedurally and factually.

Federal officers can’t be prosecuted by the state if they were behaving reasonably in their legal duties.

That is definitely not absolute immunity.

Words have meaning.

 

[martybegan]

Federal officers can’t be prosecuted by the state if they were behaving reasonably in their legal duties.

That is definitely not absolute immunity.

Words have meaning.

It's absolute immunity from State Prosecution.

Only the federal courts would be able to determine reasonableness.

 

[Marener]

It's absolute immunity from State Prosecution.

Only the federal courts would be able to determine reasonableness.

You should stop talking about things you clearly don’t understand.

If a federal court determines it’s unreasonable, the state prosecutes them in state court.

That means it’s not absolute immunity.

I dare you to find any source that claims otherwise.

 

[martybegan]

You should stop talking about things you clearly don’t understand.

If a federal court determines it’s unreasonable, the state prosecutes them in state court.

That means it’s not absolute immunity.

I dare you to find any source that claims otherwise.

Courts can overturn and overrule almost anything.

Again you are dribbling in semantics.

 

[Rogue AI]

Those idiots always think recording law enforcement is going to make law enforcement look bad, when in actuality it only makes the scumbag liberals look even worse. Go for it. Isn't Walz quitting soon? Well, not soon enough.

 

[Concerned American]

When Trump is gone the Madam Defarges on the left are going to be going down their lists with a vengeance.

The fact that Walz hasen't been impeached for the fraud by what I hope is the vast number of tax paying honest MN citizens is disappointing to say the least.

Isn't that what they did during Good's attack on ICE? They did a great job. It made the case against Good a slam dunk.

 

[Lockback]

Record whatever you can. Definitely a good idea. Already being done from coast to coast. And perfectly legal.

These are historical times: Armed, masked men, representing a President, knocking on doors.

 

[Marener]

Courts can overturn and overrule almost anything.

Again you are dribbling in semantics.

When you think you’re right, it’s “words have meaning”.

When you know you’re wrong but don’t want to admit it, it’s “semantics”.

******* coward.

They don’t have absolute immunity and Vance is wrong. It’s hard to believe he doesn’t know he’s wrong.

 

[Concerned American]

Good you can record your own obstruction. It all depends on how you do it. You will be recorded as well. So go for it. Defend illegal criminals.

Most of us are recorded most of the time in public these days anyway. The Good assault on ICE was recorded by a lot of lefties. They did a great job of preserving the events of the day for posterity. Kudos on them.

 

[Rogue AI]

You should stop talking about things you clearly don’t understand.

If a federal court determines it’s unreasonable, the state prosecutes them in state court.

That means it’s not absolute immunity.

I dare you to find any source that claims otherwise.

If the feds rule it self-defense, the state has to prove otherwise, that's before even getting into what the alleged suspect did or didn't do. That's a pretty damn big hurdle. The jurors will hear that it was ruled self-defense by the feds, which creates reasonable doubt, almost to the point that prosecution should be impossible. You loons are barking up the wrong tree, especially since the locals have no evidence and aren't invited to the investigation due to sanctuary policies.

 

[martybegan]

When you think you’re right, it’s “words have meaning”.

When you know you’re wrong but don’t want to admit it, it’s “semantics”.

******* coward.

They don’t have absolute immunity and Vance is wrong. It’s hard to believe he doesn’t know he’s wrong.

You keep arguing Semantics, ICE keeps getting rid of illegals.

 

[postman]

Hanging in a window.

it would have made far more sense for Byrd to shoot the people actively breaking the barrier.

The people breaking the barrier were not a threat to the people inside, because they had not breeched the barrier, or entered the protected zone.
Ashli Babbit was the first to breech the barrier, to gain entry into the protected zone, and thus was the first and only threat to the people inside. Justifying deadly force to stop (not prevent) the intrusion.
It was reactive not prophylactic.

 

[postman]

Again, not my problem you don't have the mental horsepower to understand it.

I'm not wrong in this case.

Even absolute immunity is situational.

words mean things.

If absolute immunity is situational, then it's not absolute immunity.