Did Trump Lawyers Make A Mistake Or Did They Set A Trap For The Racist DA And Judge?

[Rawley]

A valuation made by a prospective seller always takes into account the likely or probable future valuation. I wouldn’t sell you a valuable rare coin for today’s valuation if I am of the opinion that it would be worth a lot more in the near future. So my ask is going to take the likely future valuation into account. And guess what? You don’t have to accept it. No fraud at all.

You remain a completely dishonest hack.

The valuation was performed by the Ins. companies and the banks that he allegedly defrauded. They accepted his valuation. And none of them was financially hurt.

That this bullshit lawsuit has been allowed to go this far is a sad statement on the legal system of NY.

 

[jknowgood]

Yet mar a Lago accepted that value.



But the assessed value and market value are typically relatively close...within 20 percent.

What we saw here was over valuation by thousands of percent.


How is the difference in valuations, especially if that scale, not evidence?

The judge said the value of Mar a logo under 20 million. It's worth at least 600 million. The judge should be taken off the case.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

There is plenty of tape with her saying she was going to get him. That could prove a witch hunt.

So?

There is plenty of tape now of Trump saying he is going to prosecute his enemies -- and it gets applause from you morons.....


But here is the problem......IN COURT, you need evidence.....


Can you refute any of the evidence?

Because Trump couldn't.....maybe he should have hired you

 

[jknowgood]

Fair market value isn’t what you think the asset is worth. Fair market value is what the market thinks the asset is worth.

No one cares what you think it’s worth. It’s irrelevant. All that matters is what the market will pay for it.

If the legal restrictions are lifted, then it can be priced that way. Until then, the value can’t reflect something which may or may not happen.

Well we do know under Bidenomics, it isn't worth as much as it was a few years ago.

 

[BackAgain]

Fair market value isn’t what you think the asset is worth. Fair market value is what the market thinks the asset is worth

Yep. And if the prospective seller values it too highly, the market won’t agree and the sale won’t get made.

No one cares what you think it’s worth. It’s irrelevant. All that matters is what the market will pay for it.

Yep. Which is why if the prospective seller offers it for sale at all but does so at too high of a price point, it won’t get bought.

If the legal restrictions are lifted, then it can be priced that way.

With or without the legal restrictions, the market will determine how much it’s worth. That isn’t something determined by an assessor’s valuation.

Until then, the value can’t reflect something which may or may not happen.

The value can be whatever the seller seeks if there’s any buyer willing to accept that term.

Your ignorance is astounding.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The judge said the value of Mar a logo under 20 million. It's worth at least 600 million. The judge should be taken off the case.

The judge didn't say that, the assessors did.....Trump's own company agreed with it...


"Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million. "The Petitioner agrees with the determination of the property appraiser or tax collector," a real estate broker representing Mar-a-Lago acknowledged on a form filed with the local Value Adjustment Board, and obtained by CBS News."

Trump says Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. Not long ago, his own company thought that was over $1.7 billion too high.

Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million.

www.cbsnews.com

So was Trump lying then or is he lying now?

 

[jknowgood]

So?

There is plenty of tape now of Trump saying he is going to prosecute his enemies -- and it gets applause from you morons.....


But here is the problem......IN COURT, you need evidence.....


Can you refute any of the evidence?

Because Trump couldn't.....maybe he should have hired you

He never has, but hopefully that chick will lose her law license over this witch hunt she is doing.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Well we do know under Bidenomics, it isn't worth as much as it was a few years ago.

If you are stupid enough to believe Trump's property is worth 600 million to 1 billion dollars, you are an utter moron...

But this is why you are in a cult, because you believe Mar-a-Lago is the most expensive piece of property in American history....

Yet he is also the same guy who begs you for donations everyday...

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

He never has, but hopefully that chick will lose her law license over this witch hunt she is doing.

He did......this isn't in dispute anymore...Trump lost that part of the trial already...

This is about assessing damages

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

As I predicted....Trump will whine about how unfair it is that he doesn't have a jury (because his lawyers didn't ask for one) -- and his idiot followers will believe him......like they are doing right now on this very post.....

 

[22lcidw]

As I predicted....Trump will whine about how unfair it is that he doesn't have a jury (because his lawyers didn't ask for one) -- and his idiot followers will believe him......like they are doing right now on this very post.....

Trump is not about returning this nation to 1830. No matter what the propagandists spew or perceptions. We need to control our expenses and grow real higher wage employment.

 

[Catsnmeters]

The judge said the value of Mar a logo under 20 million. It's worth at least 600 million. The judge should be taken off the case.

The assessor stated the value.

It's not worth 600 million and it certainly isn't worth less then 26 million for tax purposes and 600 million for loan purposes.

What source do you have that has convinced you it's worth 600 million?

 

[Catsnmeters]

Duh............

Trump accepted 26 million for tax purposes and 600 million for loan purposes.

The judge accepted the valuation by the assessor. Of course those values will be a little less then market value but around 20 percent more; not 2300 percent more.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Well we do know under Bidenomics, it isn't worth as much as it was a few years ago.

And the deflections start...

Good grief.

 

[jknowgood]

If you are stupid enough to believe Trump's property is worth 600 million to 1 billion dollars, you are an utter moron...

But this is why you are in a cult, because you believe Mar-a-Lago is the most expensive piece of property in American history....

Yet he is also the same guy who begs you for donations everyday...

Have you seen the prices of property down there? The judge and the ag should be prosecuted for what they have done. Should we do the same with Biden? Let's see what level he says his properties are worth for taxes and what he says they are to worth for his assets.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

This isn't a trial. This is a motion for summary judgment. No jury. That's not the red flag. The red flag is that the judge is making his own assessment of the value of the property without his being an expert in property valuation. Second red flag is that he refused to allow any appraisals or valuations into evidence.

Trump Won’t Have a Jury in His NY Fraud Trial Because His Lawyers Didn’t Request One​

MSN

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The Judge apparently made it up on his own. The DA didn't bother to have an appraiser report on the past value.

In his ruling, it is clear that Engoron sees things differently.

“In defendants’ world: rent-regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air; a disclaimer by one party casting responsibility on another party exonerates the other party’s lies,” Engoron wrote.

“This is a fantasy world, not a real world.

 

[Delldude]

Trump accepted 26 million for tax purposes and 600 million for loan purposes.

The judge accepted the valuation by the assessor. Of course those values will be a little less then market value but around 20 percent more; not 2300 percent more.

Only problem here is the loan people do not accept a property owners evaluation. Trump posted the financial disclosure document on Truth Social.

This should be interesting.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Have you seen the prices of property down there? The judge and the ag should be prosecuted for what they have done. Should we do the same with Biden? Let's see what level he says his properties are worth for taxes and what he says they are to worth for his assets.

When Biden goes on trial, yes let's see.

 

[Delldude]

When Biden goes on trial, yes let's see.

Never happen......his party and media are already giving him the 23 skidoo. Probably exit stage right somewhere in the near future. He just is not a viable candidate anymore.