Did Trump just give his 'mens rea' on the commission of a crime?

[Rumpole]

Wow.

After seven years of the Deep State, Corporate Media, and Democrat Party coming up with **** all - who knew some anonymous Libtard on a message board would finally crack the case?

To the roof tops! Quick, light the Bat Signal - WE GOT HIM THIS TIME FOLKS! And this time we mean it!

You're an American Hero.

Start planning what you're going to wear when President Pedo awards you the medal of honor.

Your moment in the sun is almost here.

Congratulations on your rather impotent comment.

I commend thee on your rather soporific mediocrity.

.Unfortunately, that video can be used as evidence.

Which, unlike your comment, is all that matters.

 

[Batcat]

Trump stated it was acceptable for a President to 'take classified documents'.

No, it's not acceptable, it is illegal. And that,excalibur, is Trump's mens rea for the crime of Espionage, the mishandling of national defense information documents.

Your rebuttal does not provide a path of reasoning, and until you do, it's a weak rebuttal, and my position stands.

If Trump is indicted for the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, it will be an interesting but complicated trial.

Trump allies say he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents seized by FBI. Experts are skeptical.

Legal experts say presidents have absolute authority to declassify documents, but it's not clear whether Trump ever took action to do so.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Doc7505]

Trump stated it was acceptable for a President to 'take classified documents'.

No, it's not acceptable, it is illegal. And that,excalibur, is Trump's mens rea for the crime of Espionage, the mishandling of national defense information documents.

Your rebuttal does not provide a path of reasoning, and until you do, it's a weak rebuttal, and my position stands.

It's one thing for a president to declassify a document and retain it. It's another for a Senator at the time to steal a classified document from a SCIF and retain it for many years. There is no statute of limitations for theft of classified documents., even if he became president after the crime.
If there was any Mens rea on the part of anyone it is Joey Biden.

Mens rea ~~ In criminal law, mens rea is the mental state of the crime committed and the legal determination of a crime may depend upon both a mental state and actus reus, like the designation of a homicide as murder is a matter of intention to commit a crime or in some jurisidctions knowledge that one's action would cause a crime to be committed.Wikipedia

 

[Batcat]

its China spent $5.4 million on Trump tower lease.
And bank account in China.
And Ivanka gets trademarks in China fast-tracked.

But of course, pay only attention to Bidens when they were private citizens.

The Trumps were involved in legitimate businesses.

The Bidens were peddling Joe Biden’s influence.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

.Unfortunately, that video can be used as evidence.

What video?

 

[dudmuck]

The Trumps were involved in legitimate businesses.

The Bidens were peddling Joe Biden’s influence.

Foreign officials spent more than $750,000 at Trump's D.C. hotel, new documents show

Government officials from six foreign nations — including Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Turkey — spent over $750,000 at the Trump International Hotel during his presidency, according to new documents.

www.npr.org

keep telling yourself that

 

[Rumpole]

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You have yet to convict Trump for any of your made-up fantasy charges.

I am pleased to announce that Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday, the word is over 30 counts, after which he will get his mug shot, and be fingerprinted.

I would hope the is fitted with a nice tailored orange jump suit, it would be fitting for the Orange Man 'genius', but I doubt they will allow it.

 

[Rumpole]

What video?

The video from which the video in the OP was clipped.

 

[Rumpole]

It's one thing for a president to declassify a document and retain it.

Irrelevant. 793 Espionage Act does NOT depend on any classification regime. DNI damage assessments, if there is an indictment, will be the primary factor in the severity of punishment and/or fines.

It's another for a Senator at the time to steal a classified document from a SCIF and retain it for many years.

An accusations of 'theft' cannot be presumed. We must wait for the Special Counsels report.

There is no statute of limitations for theft of classified documents.,

Assumes theft. If it is determined the documents were obtained inadvertently, via staff mismanagement, it is doubtful the DOJ would prosecute, UNLESS the President or VP obstructs the government in the return of the documents.

even if he became president after the crime.
If there was any Mens rea on the part of anyone it is Joey Biden.

The issue is what is the DOJ's policy on indicting a member of the executive branch regarding classified documents.
It is my understanding that they would only prosecute if 1. Docs were obtained willfully/intentionally and with knowledge of their potential damage. 2. If they obstruct the government's efforts to have the docs returned.
On #1, we have Trump on tape declaring 'it is okay for a president to take classified documents'. and on #2, he was served with a search warrant, which would only have been issued but for his refusal to return documents.

Given the above, Trump is the only one whose actions qualify for prosecution.

Mens rea ~~ In criminal law, mens rea is the mental state of the crime committed and the legal determination of a crime may depend upon both a mental state and actus reus, like the designation of a homicide as murder is a matter of intention to commit a crime or in some jurisidctions knowledge that one's action would cause a crime to be committed.Wikipedia

Trump refused to return the documents, resulting in a search warrant. That fulfills 'actus reus'. Trump admitted on tape that he believes it is okay ot take classified documents, in defiance of 793 Espionage act. That demonstrates mens rea. As president, it is not logical he was unaware of their potential damage. With Trump, all the elements of 793 have been met. "In my opinion" and, as always "IANAL"

 

[RhodyPatriot]

The video from which the video in the OP was clipped.

Which OP?

 

[Batcat]

Foreign officials spent more than $750,000 at Trump's D.C. hotel, new documents show

Government officials from six foreign nations — including Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Turkey — spent over $750,000 at the Trump International Hotel during his presidency, according to new documents.

www.npr.org

keep telling yourself that

It is the fact, Jack.

User Clip: Hard evidence that Joe Biden was involved in Influence peddling

Hard evidence that Joe Biden was involved in Influence peddling and is in fact "The Big Guy"

www.c-span.org

However since we now live in a banana republic where the rule of law does not apply to Democrats, nothing will ever happen to the Bidens.