Did the US fight on Mao's side?

[rupol2000]

I always thought that the Vietnam War was a war of the right against the bloody Mao. But now information has appeared that the most large-scale events unfolded there already under the left, during the time of Kennedy. And if this is so, then the US troops turned the direction, because it would be naive to assume that the left would start fighting against its own, right?

Is this assumption confirmed?

PS
There is some circumstantial evidence.

At the turn of the 1960s–70s in the context of the conflict with the USSR, Mao initiated the normalization of China's relations with the United States and the leading capitalist. countries. Mao considered cooperation with them as an important tool for modernizing the national economy and the armed forces.

That is, there was an pease with the USA

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I always thought that the Vietnam War was a war of the right against the bloody Mao. But now information has appeared that the most large-scale events unfolded there already under the left, during the time of Kennedy. And if this is so, then the US troops turned the direction, because it would be naive to assume that the left would start fighting against its own, right?

Is this assumption confirmed?

PS
There is some circumstantial evidence.

At the turn of the 1960s–70s in the context of the conflict with the USSR, Mao initiated the normalization of China's relations with the United States and the leading capitalist. countries. Mao considered cooperation with them as an important tool for modernizing the national economy and the armed forces.

That is, there was an pease with the USA

In Vietnam Ho Chi had approached the United Nations with an appeal that his country should no longer be under French rule. They just wanted to be free, and after WWII, all the rest of the countries were allowed their freedoms, but France petitioned that they should be allowed to keep their slaves, so Ho Chi had to resort to other means to achieve Vietnam freedoms. And of course France had all their technology so could quell in uprising from the rag tag group of rebels, until........And of course France got their asses handed to them and brought the US into the war, thanks to John F Kennedy. The rest is history.


If France would of left Vietnam the war never would of happned, and France still left Vietnam as the typical losers that they always are.


Returning to Vietnam to expel the French colonizers and emancipate his homeland, Ho Chi Minh looked to the United States, once a colony of the British, as a model—the Vietnamese Declaration of Independence is clearly modeled on the United States Declaration—but also as a potential ally.

Messages to America: The Letters of Ho Chi Minh​

www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon2/hochiminh/

 

[rupol2000]

andaronjim It's not logical. With the arrival of the left in the US, the anti-imperialist movements collapsed and Britain gained shadow power. Kennedy couldn't be on the side of liberation

 

[rupol2000]

andaronjim the French left Vietnam in 1954

 

[rupol2000]

The case there apparently was like this: the French, together with Truman, fought against the Vietnamese rebels, then Eisenhower came and kicked the French out of Vietnam. It is logical to assume that Kennedy made a reverse move.

 

[rupol2000]

meanwhile, a big leap - that is, Mao's preparation for war began later than the liberation of Vietnam. He prepared to support the left to enslave Vietnam again.

Until everything fits.

 

[occupied]

Your view of American politics is far too simplistic. For example you should know that "the Left" really didn't exist as a political movement in the 1960s. Both parties had liberal and conservative wings but even our liberals were fairly conservative when compared to the European left.

 

[rupol2000]

Your view of American politics is far too simplistic. For example you should know that "the Left" really didn't exist as a political movement in the 1960s. Both parties had liberal and conservative wings but even our liberals were fairly conservative when compared to the European left.

This is absolute nonsense. There, on the contrary, there was a clear right-wing policy that is not under Trump. Moreover, it was a very tough and strong world policy with a clear doctrine.

 

[rupol2000]

European left

By the way, this is a fictitious concept. In Europe there is no one but the left, it is meaningless to talk about the left there. Only about ultra-left extremists and moderate totalitarians like the Tories who use the same ultras in shadow politics

 

[Mac-7]

In Vietnam Ho Chi had approached the United Nations with an appeal that his country should no longer be under French rule. They just wanted to be free, and after WWII, all the rest of the countries were allowed their freedoms, but France petitioned that they should be allowed to keep their slaves, so Ho Chi had to resort to other means to achieve Vietnam freedoms. And of course France had all their technology so could quell in uprising from the rag tag group of rebels, until........And of course France got their asses handed to them and brought the US into the war, thanks to John F Kennedy. The rest is history.


If France would of left Vietnam the war never would of happned, and France still left Vietnam as the typical losers that they always are.


Returning to Vietnam to expel the French colonizers and emancipate his homeland, Ho Chi Minh looked to the United States, once a colony of the British, as a model—the Vietnamese Declaration of Independence is clearly modeled on the United States Declaration—but also as a potential ally.

Messages to America: The Letters of Ho Chi Minh​

www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon2/hochiminh/

Its probably true that Ho was a nationalist

but not everyone in vietnam wanted him

they were Catholics and he was a godless progressive/lib/communist

if he had been willing to allow political freedom for the millions of vietnamese who were not communists a lot of lives could have been saved

 

[rupol2000]

Its probably true that Ho was a nationalist

but not everyone in vietnam wanted him

they were Catholics and he was a godless progressive/lib/communist

if he had been willing to allow political freedom for the millions of vietnamese who were not communists a lot of lives could have been saved

The liberation from French slavery, which was prevented by France and the American Democrats, is not freedom in your opinion?

Surely he gave freedom, at that time they were even in the USSR

 

[occupied]

This is absolute nonsense. There, on the contrary, there was a clear right-wing policy that is not under Trump. Moreover, it was a very tough and strong world policy with a clear doctrine.

Why are you trying to tell me what went on in an era I lived through? This isn't Russia where you can just say shit and people have to accept it.

 

[rupol2000]

Truman's left-wing mafia spent 700 million US taxpayer dollars to support the French imperialists

 

[rupol2000]

Why are you trying to tell me what went on in an era I lived through? This isn't Russia where you can just say shit and people have to accept it.

Because I know what I'm talking about. You never know what you experienced, mushrooms also survived in the forest. We must understand.

 

[occupied]

Truman's left-wing mafia spent 700 million US taxpayer dollars to support the French imperialists

Truman a leftist? You are seriously screwed up.

 

[rupol2000]

Truman a leftist? You are seriously screwed up.

You are completely illiterate. Open Wikipedia to get started. Yes, Truman is on the left.

 

[rupol2000]

occupied In addition, he is a direct follower of the Bolshevik course of Roosevelt. Did he accidentally fuck little girls like a follower of Stalin Beria?

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

I always thought that the Vietnam War was a war of the right against the bloody Mao. But now information has appeared that the most large-scale events unfolded there already under the left, during the time of Kennedy. And if this is so, then the US troops turned the direction, because it would be naive to assume that the left would start fighting against its own, right?

This makes no sense.

Reformat and resubmit for further approval.

 

[occupied]

occupied In addition, he is a direct follower of the Bolshevik course of Roosevelt. Did he accidentally fuck little girls like a follower of Stalin Beria?

Quit trying to talk about American history and politics, you really suck at it.

 

[rupol2000]

Quit trying to talk about American history and politics, you really suck at it.

There is no isolated "American policy", especially since we are talking about foreign policy.