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Columbia has had a snot rag mandate since April 20 with no noticeable result other than rising cases.
Social distancing, wearing a mask and handwashing are all standard strategies with any contagion. It isn't rocket science.
Notice the protocols in hospitals.
Masks can work in hospitals, but they only count on the masks for less than 15 minutes at a time.
Once saliva drops evaporate, the mask becomes useless and actually increases your virus intake.
The problem with "flattening the curve" in general, is that you conserve easy hosts, which then prevents herd immunity and instead makes the epidemic last forever.
Instead, you WANT the largest initial spike possible, so that then the easy hosts are all quickly used up, and the epidemic then will quickly end in less than 2 weeks.
The historical tradition to successfully end any epidemic with the least deaths has been variolation, the deliberate infection of those least likely to die from it.
The History of Variolation
The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be...historyofvaccines.blog
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The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be dried in the sun and then inhaled by people seeking to be inoculated. The drying of the scabs would weaken the virus — or make less of it viable — and the inoculated person would (hopefully) not develop the full-blown symptoms of smallpox. In India, the method was similar to what would migrate west to the Middle East, North Africa and eventually Europe. That method involved lancing the pustule of someone recovering from smallpox and then using that same lance to transfer some of the pustule material (pus) into the arm of a healthy person.
Either method had to be practiced by someone with much experience in the procedure. There are two forms of smallpox: variola minor and variola major. The minor form caused death in about 1% of those who were infected, and the major form caused death in about 30% of those who were infected. (Some estimates put the death rate in some epidemics as high as 50% if the population hit by the epidemic was especially susceptible.) As a result, a physician performing the variolation procedure had to recognize that the donor had variola minor, and that they were recovering from the disease, making the virus in the pustules less viable. When done wrong, variolation could actually trigger rather large epidemics, like the epidemic in Ft. Union, North Dakota.
In 1706, an enslaved man was sold to a church congregation in the Massachusetts Colony in North America. The congregation would go on to “gift” Onesimus to Reverend Cotton Mather. The reverend asked Onesimus one day about the scar Onesimus had on his arm. Onesimus explained that he and others had received smallpox inoculations in order to be safe from the disease. Upon hearing this, Rev. Mather consulted with a local physician by the name of Zabdiel Boylston, and Boylston consulted with colleagues. They arrived at the conclusion that variolation was worth trying, especially since Boston was a big trading harbor and Massachusetts suffered periodic smallpox epidemics when ships arrived carrying infected people. When smallpox arrived again in 1721, Mather and Boylston moved quickly to inoculate their family and servants. At the end of the epidemic, 14% of those who contracted smallpox “the natural way” had died. Of those who were inoculated, 2% died.
In 1717, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu traveled to the Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey) along with her husband — who was the British Ambassador to the Empire — and her son, Edward. Upon hearing about the variolation procedure and its success in preventing smallpox, Lady Mary asked to observe the procedure, writing home about it in one of her many letters from her travels. Having caught smallpox herself two years earlier — and losing her brother two years before that — Lady Mary wished to spare Edward the experience of the disease. In the end, the variolation worked, and Edward recovered from mild symptoms of smallpox and became immune. In 1721, when smallpox yet again hit England, Lady Mary had her daughter inoculated. The event was well publicized and attracted the attention of the public. Lady Mary influenced the Princess of Wales to inoculate her daughters in 1722. From then on, inoculation would be practiced increasingly in European countries.
In 1768, Catherine The Great of Russia continued her expansion of healthcare services in the Russian Empire by first having herself inoculated and then inoculating her family. She would then go on to order that inoculation be practiced throughout the empire, resulting in over two million people receiving the procedure.
Around the same time that Catherine The Great was inoculating her subjects, a physician was trying to convince the people of Norfolk, Virginia, to adopt the procedure and prevent smallpox from decimating the community on a periodic basis. Like Boston, Norfolk was a port city and subject to arrivals of smallpox on trading vessels. Dr. Archibald Campbell hired Dr. John Dalgleish to perform inoculations on families in Norfolk. Not only that, but Dr. Dalgleish published articles supporting the practice. On June 27, a mob attacked Dr. Campbell’s home, where he was attempting to inoculate a group of people. The tensions between those for and those against inoculation came to a head when the practice of inoculation was banned in Virginia in 1770 by the Virginia Legislature. That same year, with Thomas Jefferson as a prosecutor, some of the people who attacked Dr. Campbell’s home were tried with only a few found guilty.
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I disagree re: masks. No harm no foul. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologist.
When are you morons going to understand that masks are only a PART of controlling the virus.
WEAR A MASK
SOCIAL DISTANCE
AVOID CROWDS
WASH YOUR HANDS.
Jesus christ a child of 4 could understand.
When are you morons going to understand that masks are only a PART of controlling the virus.
WEAR A MASK
SOCIAL DISTANCE
AVOID CROWDS
WASH YOUR HANDS.
Jesus christ a child of 4 could understand.
Columbia has had a snot rag mandate since April 20 with no noticeable result other than rising cases.
Social distancing, wearing a mask and handwashing are all standard strategies with any contagion. It isn't rocket science.
Notice the protocols in hospitals.
Masks can work in hospitals, but they only count on the masks for less than 15 minutes at a time.
Once saliva drops evaporate, the mask becomes useless and actually increases your virus intake.
The problem with "flattening the curve" in general, is that you conserve easy hosts, which then prevents herd immunity and instead makes the epidemic last forever.
Instead, you WANT the largest initial spike possible, so that then the easy hosts are all quickly used up, and the epidemic then will quickly end in less than 2 weeks.
The historical tradition to successfully end any epidemic with the least deaths has been variolation, the deliberate infection of those least likely to die from it.
The History of Variolation
The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be...historyofvaccines.blog
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The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be dried in the sun and then inhaled by people seeking to be inoculated. The drying of the scabs would weaken the virus — or make less of it viable — and the inoculated person would (hopefully) not develop the full-blown symptoms of smallpox. In India, the method was similar to what would migrate west to the Middle East, North Africa and eventually Europe. That method involved lancing the pustule of someone recovering from smallpox and then using that same lance to transfer some of the pustule material (pus) into the arm of a healthy person.
Either method had to be practiced by someone with much experience in the procedure. There are two forms of smallpox: variola minor and variola major. The minor form caused death in about 1% of those who were infected, and the major form caused death in about 30% of those who were infected. (Some estimates put the death rate in some epidemics as high as 50% if the population hit by the epidemic was especially susceptible.) As a result, a physician performing the variolation procedure had to recognize that the donor had variola minor, and that they were recovering from the disease, making the virus in the pustules less viable. When done wrong, variolation could actually trigger rather large epidemics, like the epidemic in Ft. Union, North Dakota.
In 1706, an enslaved man was sold to a church congregation in the Massachusetts Colony in North America. The congregation would go on to “gift” Onesimus to Reverend Cotton Mather. The reverend asked Onesimus one day about the scar Onesimus had on his arm. Onesimus explained that he and others had received smallpox inoculations in order to be safe from the disease. Upon hearing this, Rev. Mather consulted with a local physician by the name of Zabdiel Boylston, and Boylston consulted with colleagues. They arrived at the conclusion that variolation was worth trying, especially since Boston was a big trading harbor and Massachusetts suffered periodic smallpox epidemics when ships arrived carrying infected people. When smallpox arrived again in 1721, Mather and Boylston moved quickly to inoculate their family and servants. At the end of the epidemic, 14% of those who contracted smallpox “the natural way” had died. Of those who were inoculated, 2% died.
In 1717, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu traveled to the Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey) along with her husband — who was the British Ambassador to the Empire — and her son, Edward. Upon hearing about the variolation procedure and its success in preventing smallpox, Lady Mary asked to observe the procedure, writing home about it in one of her many letters from her travels. Having caught smallpox herself two years earlier — and losing her brother two years before that — Lady Mary wished to spare Edward the experience of the disease. In the end, the variolation worked, and Edward recovered from mild symptoms of smallpox and became immune. In 1721, when smallpox yet again hit England, Lady Mary had her daughter inoculated. The event was well publicized and attracted the attention of the public. Lady Mary influenced the Princess of Wales to inoculate her daughters in 1722. From then on, inoculation would be practiced increasingly in European countries.
In 1768, Catherine The Great of Russia continued her expansion of healthcare services in the Russian Empire by first having herself inoculated and then inoculating her family. She would then go on to order that inoculation be practiced throughout the empire, resulting in over two million people receiving the procedure.
Around the same time that Catherine The Great was inoculating her subjects, a physician was trying to convince the people of Norfolk, Virginia, to adopt the procedure and prevent smallpox from decimating the community on a periodic basis. Like Boston, Norfolk was a port city and subject to arrivals of smallpox on trading vessels. Dr. Archibald Campbell hired Dr. John Dalgleish to perform inoculations on families in Norfolk. Not only that, but Dr. Dalgleish published articles supporting the practice. On June 27, a mob attacked Dr. Campbell’s home, where he was attempting to inoculate a group of people. The tensions between those for and those against inoculation came to a head when the practice of inoculation was banned in Virginia in 1770 by the Virginia Legislature. That same year, with Thomas Jefferson as a prosecutor, some of the people who attacked Dr. Campbell’s home were tried with only a few found guilty.
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I disagree re: masks. No harm no foul. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologist.
But I have read enough of what doctors have written, to know that "flattening the curve" is not just bad, but why it prevents any epidemic from ever ending.
The only other time masks and social distancing was tried was the 1918 Spanish flu, and it was a disaster, keeping the epidemic around for 2 whole years instead of the 2 months it would have normally lasted.
Just think about it yourself.
What makes any epidemic end?
It needs new hosts every 12 days, and runs out.
The quicker you can make that happen, the smaller the death total will be.
So instead of "flattening the curve", what you should really be doing instead, is to greatly accelerate infection has much as possible, in the initial spike.
Accelerating infection among those likely to survive does little harm to the death total, but since it ends the epidemic in the shortest possible, the death total is cut off at the lowest possible value.
The practice of "flattening the curve" is only valid in the first week or so.
That is because there are 2 possible strategies, dependent upon how lethal the epidemic is.
If it is very lethal, like Ebola, then you go with full quarantine and contact tracing, to end it in 2 weeks.
If it is not very lethal, like covid-19, then you go with deliberate infection of healthy young volunteers, to end it in 2 weeks.
No epidemic has to or should last more than about 2 weeks in any local area.
If it does, then you are doing something wrong.
Once you decide which of the 2 strategies to use, then you must not at all try to "flatten the curve".
What flattening the curve means is to stretch out the time period, essentially not only just delaying the inevitable, but giving the epidemic more time to spread much further, wider, and deeper than it normally could have.
Time is the greatest enemy to an epidemic, and "flattening the curve" gives it the most time possible.
The only valid solutions to any epidemic are the ones that work the fastest.
Again, read up on variolation. It has the best track record when a reliable vaccine is not available.
When are you morons going to understand that masks are only a PART of controlling the virus.
WEAR A MASK
SOCIAL DISTANCE
AVOID CROWDS
WASH YOUR HANDS.
Jesus christ a child of 4 could understand.
That does not control the virus, but just slows it slightly.
But slowing the spread slightly, only maximizes the epidemic in the long run, because it prevents it from ever ending.
To end any epidemic, the virus has to run out of easy hosts.
It needs a new host every 12 days.
Running out of hosts is the ONLY thing that even ends any epidemic.
So conserving hosts by musing those 4 methods you listed, just ensures there will always be enough easy hosts so it will never end.
You can ONLY end it by deliberately using up easy hosts as quickly as possible.
The historic tradition is called variolation, for epidemics like covid-19, with a very low lethality rate.
For an epidemic that is too lethal, like Ebola, then you do full quarantine with contact tracing.
Whatever you do, you want it to be fast.
You NEVER want to do anything slow, like "flattening the curve".
It worked because the citizens of the USA are not like they were 60 years ago. Bunch of pink haired idiots.The masks did nothing but HARM....they psychologically harmed america. Their purpose was to create FEAR and uncertainty in order to manipulate americans better and it worked.
A big mystery to me in all the covid mysteries is how an entire nation fell for the Mask Scam. Well, too many did. Including the entire medical profession, apparently.
Sure, sure. That mask Grandma made out of the extra material from which she made her curtains..oh yeah, that will protect you from A VIRUS.
Or yeah, the surgical mask that says RIGHT ON THE BOX "does not protect against viruses".
Has anyone ever seen a movie about people who work with viruses? They freaking look like they're on the MOON. They don't wear Grandma's Curtains. Or a surgical mask.
We're dumb. We're just. so. dumb.
It worked because the citizens of the USA are not like they were 60 years ago. Bunch of pink haired idiots.
Columbia has had a snot rag mandate since April 20 with no noticeable result other than rising cases.
Social distancing, wearing a mask and handwashing are all standard strategies with any contagion. It isn't rocket science.
Notice the protocols in hospitals.
Masks can work in hospitals, but they only count on the masks for less than 15 minutes at a time.
Once saliva drops evaporate, the mask becomes useless and actually increases your virus intake.
The problem with "flattening the curve" in general, is that you conserve easy hosts, which then prevents herd immunity and instead makes the epidemic last forever.
Instead, you WANT the largest initial spike possible, so that then the easy hosts are all quickly used up, and the epidemic then will quickly end in less than 2 weeks.
The historical tradition to successfully end any epidemic with the least deaths has been variolation, the deliberate infection of those least likely to die from it.
The History of Variolation
The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be...historyofvaccines.blog
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The exact origins of variolation (also known as “inoculation”) are not well known. However, it is agreed that the practice started somewhere in Asia, in either China or India. (It is possible that it started in both places at around the same time.) In China, scabs from smallpox pustules would be dried in the sun and then inhaled by people seeking to be inoculated. The drying of the scabs would weaken the virus — or make less of it viable — and the inoculated person would (hopefully) not develop the full-blown symptoms of smallpox. In India, the method was similar to what would migrate west to the Middle East, North Africa and eventually Europe. That method involved lancing the pustule of someone recovering from smallpox and then using that same lance to transfer some of the pustule material (pus) into the arm of a healthy person.
Either method had to be practiced by someone with much experience in the procedure. There are two forms of smallpox: variola minor and variola major. The minor form caused death in about 1% of those who were infected, and the major form caused death in about 30% of those who were infected. (Some estimates put the death rate in some epidemics as high as 50% if the population hit by the epidemic was especially susceptible.) As a result, a physician performing the variolation procedure had to recognize that the donor had variola minor, and that they were recovering from the disease, making the virus in the pustules less viable. When done wrong, variolation could actually trigger rather large epidemics, like the epidemic in Ft. Union, North Dakota.
In 1706, an enslaved man was sold to a church congregation in the Massachusetts Colony in North America. The congregation would go on to “gift” Onesimus to Reverend Cotton Mather. The reverend asked Onesimus one day about the scar Onesimus had on his arm. Onesimus explained that he and others had received smallpox inoculations in order to be safe from the disease. Upon hearing this, Rev. Mather consulted with a local physician by the name of Zabdiel Boylston, and Boylston consulted with colleagues. They arrived at the conclusion that variolation was worth trying, especially since Boston was a big trading harbor and Massachusetts suffered periodic smallpox epidemics when ships arrived carrying infected people. When smallpox arrived again in 1721, Mather and Boylston moved quickly to inoculate their family and servants. At the end of the epidemic, 14% of those who contracted smallpox “the natural way” had died. Of those who were inoculated, 2% died.
In 1717, Lady Mary Wortley Montagu traveled to the Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey) along with her husband — who was the British Ambassador to the Empire — and her son, Edward. Upon hearing about the variolation procedure and its success in preventing smallpox, Lady Mary asked to observe the procedure, writing home about it in one of her many letters from her travels. Having caught smallpox herself two years earlier — and losing her brother two years before that — Lady Mary wished to spare Edward the experience of the disease. In the end, the variolation worked, and Edward recovered from mild symptoms of smallpox and became immune. In 1721, when smallpox yet again hit England, Lady Mary had her daughter inoculated. The event was well publicized and attracted the attention of the public. Lady Mary influenced the Princess of Wales to inoculate her daughters in 1722. From then on, inoculation would be practiced increasingly in European countries.
In 1768, Catherine The Great of Russia continued her expansion of healthcare services in the Russian Empire by first having herself inoculated and then inoculating her family. She would then go on to order that inoculation be practiced throughout the empire, resulting in over two million people receiving the procedure.
Around the same time that Catherine The Great was inoculating her subjects, a physician was trying to convince the people of Norfolk, Virginia, to adopt the procedure and prevent smallpox from decimating the community on a periodic basis. Like Boston, Norfolk was a port city and subject to arrivals of smallpox on trading vessels. Dr. Archibald Campbell hired Dr. John Dalgleish to perform inoculations on families in Norfolk. Not only that, but Dr. Dalgleish published articles supporting the practice. On June 27, a mob attacked Dr. Campbell’s home, where he was attempting to inoculate a group of people. The tensions between those for and those against inoculation came to a head when the practice of inoculation was banned in Virginia in 1770 by the Virginia Legislature. That same year, with Thomas Jefferson as a prosecutor, some of the people who attacked Dr. Campbell’s home were tried with only a few found guilty.
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I disagree re: masks. No harm no foul. You aren't a doctor or an epidemiologist.
But I have read enough of what doctors have written, to know that "flattening the curve" is not just bad, but why it prevents any epidemic from ever ending.
The only other time masks and social distancing was tried was the 1918 Spanish flu, and it was a disaster, keeping the epidemic around for 2 whole years instead of the 2 months it would have normally lasted.
Just think about it yourself.
What makes any epidemic end?
It needs new hosts every 12 days, and runs out.
The quicker you can make that happen, the smaller the death total will be.
So instead of "flattening the curve", what you should really be doing instead, is to greatly accelerate infection has much as possible, in the initial spike.
Accelerating infection among those likely to survive does little harm to the death total, but since it ends the epidemic in the shortest possible, the death total is cut off at the lowest possible value.
The practice of "flattening the curve" is only valid in the first week or so.
That is because there are 2 possible strategies, dependent upon how lethal the epidemic is.
If it is very lethal, like Ebola, then you go with full quarantine and contact tracing, to end it in 2 weeks.
If it is not very lethal, like covid-19, then you go with deliberate infection of healthy young volunteers, to end it in 2 weeks.
No epidemic has to or should last more than about 2 weeks in any local area.
If it does, then you are doing something wrong.
Once you decide which of the 2 strategies to use, then you must not at all try to "flatten the curve".
What flattening the curve means is to stretch out the time period, essentially not only just delaying the inevitable, but giving the epidemic more time to spread much further, wider, and deeper than it normally could have.
Time is the greatest enemy to an epidemic, and "flattening the curve" gives it the most time possible.
The only valid solutions to any epidemic are the ones that work the fastest.
Again, read up on variolation. It has the best track record when a reliable vaccine is not available.
Perfect!! And the reason contact tracing works with ebola or aids is because its hard to get. Its not possible to contain or trace a respiratory virus.