Zone1 Did Jesus Physically Ascend to Heaven?

[Captain Caveman]

Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?

You would need to refer to the Bible and work out it's scriptures because it's symbolic and not literal.

 

[ding]

Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?

The Jewish picture of resurrection was a return to the same kind of bodily life as the one experienced before death (except in a new world with the righteous). Christian views always entailed transformation into a very different kind of life – incorruptible, glorious, and spiritual while still maintaining embodiment.35 The Christian view is so different from the Jewish one that Paul has to develop a new term to speak about it – “body spiritual” (soma pneumatikon). In 1 Corinthians 15:44-46 he makes every effort to distinguish the Christian doctrine from the Jewish one: “It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body,and there is a spiritual body…..However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.”

 

[Meriweather]

Scripture says Jesus ascended to Heaven in his ressurected body.

Yes!

You would need to refer to the Bible and work out it's scriptures because it's symbolic and not literal.

Are you thinking of Jesus ascending up into the sky? A better description may be that God exists outside our physical realm/universe--perhaps 'parallel universe' is a more accurate picture of heaven? Jesus' ascension is that he returned to his existence outside the physical world.

I've heard this analogy: When an artist paints a picture, or someone builds a house, they are not the picture, nor the house. They, the creator, live outside their picture or their construction. In the same way, God, our Creator, lives outside his creation.

(I understand analogies always fail on some level, but I I believe it is something worth considering or thinking about.)

 

[Donald H]

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I've decided on a probationary period in which you will be restricted to only discussing the issue of the 'big fish and Jonah'.


Instead they tell us that their god made a 'special' big fish for Jonah to live in for three days!

The god created the first fish with 'wind up' fins!

 

[BS Filter]

I've decided on a probationary period in which you will be restricted to only discussing the issue of the 'big fish and Jonah'.


Instead they tell us that their god made a 'special' big fish for Jonah to live in for three days!

The god created the first fish with 'wind up' fins!

Scripture tells us God prepared a fish. You don't have to believe it.

 

[Donald H]

Scripture tells us God prepared a fish. You don't have to believe it.

So now you can see how you're duped into claiming the story is true! You didn't have to commit to that.

That's the kind f Christians an atheist is looking for!

 

[BS Filter]

So now you can see how you're duped into claiming the story is true! You didn't have to commit to that.

That's the kind f Christians an atheist is looking for!

Well, that's your uninformed opinion. That would be like me commenting on something as an expert that I hadn't even studied. Kinda stupid.

 

[ding]

I've decided on a probationary period in which you will be restricted to only discussing the issue of the 'big fish and Jonah'.


Instead they tell us that their god made a 'special' big fish for Jonah to live in for three days!

The god created the first fish with 'wind up' fins!

 

[Shiversepter]

as Christians we all believe that we will be given a new heavenly body.

we will be able to ascend to heaven and our earthly body will vanish, at some point in time Jesus himself experienced this as well ?

 

[Donald H]

as Christians we all believe that we will be given a new heavenly body.

we will be able to ascend to heaven and our earthly body will vanish, at some point in time Jesus himself experienced this as well ?

It's not supposed to be thought of as a literally true body. It's now just lately said to be a body in spirit.

The majority of Christians have now started to accept Darwin's evolution, over the A & E bogus creation story.

It's not for an atheist to even suggest what's the truth. Christians have the ball in their court

 

[ding]

It's not supposed to be thought of as a literally true body. It's now just lately said to be a body in spirit.

The majority of Christians have now started to accept Darwin's evolution, over the A & E bogus creation story.

It's not for an atheist to even suggest what's the truth. Christians have the ball in their court

It's funny how your narrative has never taken root. Maybe you should have watered it more.