Zone1 Did Jesus Physically Ascend to Heaven?

Nice try and you are allowed to have your opinion. But, those who are fence sitters will only end up with splinters in their butts. Jesus is the Christ. And because of his atonement, you will be resurrected too. Get off the fence before the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
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Reread my post...will you Private Pyle ?
 
Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven?

Acts 1:9-11
English Standard Version
9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”
 
Or...consider this...People of faith who have no fear of reality and are willing to embrace the reality.

People who rename it "myth" feel they have presented a good reason--and an excuse--to run from actuality.

They are so fucking shit scared they need to in a non-existent Sky Man and his bastard son. Religion is now and has always been big time con game.

Soak the suckers for as much money they can get. religion is for weak-minded, easily deluded fools. They need to believe in something that is not real. They by believing in something is not real means something.

What that means is they are shit scared to think for themselves. They want to led by people they think care about them, when in reality all their leaders think about how much money they con people out of.
 
:thewave: :udaman:They are so fucking shit scared they need to in a non-existent Sky Man and his bastard son. Religion is now and has always been big time con game.

Soak the suckers for as much money they can get. religion is for weak-minded, easily deluded fools. They need to believe in something that is not real. They by believing in something is not real means something.

What that means is they are shit scared to think for themselves. They want to led by people they think care about them, when in reality all their leaders think about how much money they con people out of.
 
1 Corinthians 15:52-55
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
POTENT would be a serious understatement regarding the provided passages!
 
I agree that some things are beyond human comprehension, but I also think that belief requires some measure of understanding. If you don't know what you believe, how can you believe in it?
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Well, I'm a newly converted Catholic, only Confirmed a year ago. Without the benefit of the great catechism young Catholic children used to get, I do my best. Fortunately, our priest gives us a weekly meeting of adult catechism. With a few good friends who are lifelong Catholics, I'm doing my best.

And PS -- I had a miracle happen.

And another PS -- A good friend, also Catholic, had a miracle happen.

And, no, I will not describe them so that losers here can ridicule them.


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Well, I'm a newly converted Catholic, only Confirmed a year ago. Without the benefit of the great catechism young Catholic children used to get, I do my best. Fortunately, our priest gives us a weekly meeting of adult catechism. With a few good friends who are lifelong Catholics, I'm doing my best.

And PS -- I had a miracle happen.

And another PS -- A good friend, also Catholic, had a miracle happen.

And, no, I will not describe them so that losers here can ridicule them.


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I know you will hold these miracles close to your heart, and I share the joy. Bless you and your friend.

Your last sentence: What saddens me in this religion forum, perhaps every religion forum, are the unbelievers ever present, who will not/cannot allow people of faith to have even one thread here just for people of faith. There are those of us here who would love to hear and celebrate your stories.

The question that cannot be answered: Like the Apostles is this a word where you can run out to tell all the people? Or, should you share, is it merely throwing pearls before swine? Hugs. Happy Easter! Wish things were different here today.
 
I know you will hold these miracles close to your heart, and I share the joy. Bless you and your friend.

Your last sentence: What saddens me in this religion forum, perhaps every religion forum, are the unbelievers ever present, who will not/cannot allow people of faith to have even one thread here just for people of faith. There are those of us here who would love to hear and celebrate your stories.

The question that cannot be answered: Like the Apostles is this a word where you can run out to tell all the people? Or, should you share, is it merely throwing pearls before swine? Hugs. Happy Easter! Wish things were different here today.
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That was so beautifully said. Thank you.

At first, as a Christian, I shied from the idea of evangelizing, because of those who will not allow me to have my faith without trying to kill it. So I'm careful to simply not give the swine any space in my head, and I do my best to remove their power from them by praying the Rosary every day.

Happy Easter to you. He Is Risen!


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Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?
FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT inherit the kingdom of heaven....

Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again

These are the words of Jesus. Do you believe them? If so, you have your answer
 
Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?

Yes. Modern science gives a glimpse of this, with string theory and parallel universes, etc

There are whole realms we can't begin to understand
 
Acts 1:9-11
English Standard Version
9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”
And there we have it. Jesus did not ascend physically.
 
Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?

How dare you question a cherished belief held by those dear Cultists who are always being let down by the guy at the top of the ladder .
I will give you a Free tip .
Don't believe a word those Cultists tell you .
They will have you tithing your income ---- but never giving you back any interest which at least the Jews do .
 
Or...consider this...People of faith who have no fear of reality and are willing to embrace the reality.

People who rename it "myth" feel they have presented a good reason--and an excuse--to run from actuality.
Petitio Principii

Add that to "God wouldn't let us believe in Him if He didn't exist.'
 
Nice try and you are allowed to have your opinion. But, those who are fence sitters will only end up with splinters in their butts. Jesus is the Christ. And because of his atonement, you will be resurrected too. Get off the fence before the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
As Annoying as Telemarketing, Which Should Be Illegal

Go away. Find a choir. Preach to them.
 
As Annoying as Telemarketing, Which Should Be Illegal

Go away. Find a choir. Preach to them.
This is a religion forum for the religious. It's you that is annoying and needs to go away...And why should telemarketing be illegal? There are processes in place for the unsociable idiots who are on the "Do Not Call" lists.
 

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No Yeshua, no god. No heaven. Just brain-dead fools who believe in a myth.
Are you labeling Christianity and Judaism myths? They don't qualify. Can you explain the difference between them and other myths?
 
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