Zone1 Did Jesus Physically Ascend to Heaven?

[0311]

Are you labeling Christianity and Judaism myths? They don't qualify. Can you explain the difference between them and other myths?

I know that you are so shit scared of the world that you desperate to believe non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son. Yes, they are myths. The bible has been written and rewritten more times than I can count. Weak mined people want to believe in unreal because the real world scares them.

 

[Meriweather]

I know that you are so shit scared of the world that you desperate to believe non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son. Yes, they are myths. The bible has been written and rewritten more times than I can count. Weak mined people want to believe in unreal because the real world scares them.

No, they do not qualify as myths, and it appears you know so little about myths you throw the word around carelessly, perhaps even ignorantly.

Do tell me what I find "scary" about the "real world". It may be best to tell me what you find so scary, or what you think others find scary. I've been having a good time here.

 

[0311]

No, they do not qualify as myths, and it appears you know so little about myths you throw the word around carelessly, perhaps even ignorantly.

Do tell me what I find "scary" about the "real world". It may be best to tell me what you find so scary, or what you think others find scary. I've been having a good time here.

Desperate people turn to things that do not exist. Myth and lies all what Judaism and Christianity is about. Take very much untrue and downright and outright birth of Yeshua. According to the holy myth book, Miryam (correct spelling) rode on the back of donkey over ninety miles with her husband Yoseph (correct spelling) to the city of Bethlehem. Supposedly to be taxed. Miryam was at least nine months pregnant no woman in her right mind would done that. Nor was there anything to tax. Taxes were based how cattle, lambs, piglets and goats were born in spring, nor were there any crops to tax. Which would have happened in the spring, NOT in dead of winter. Christmas was originally a Pagan holiday. Christians jacked the holiday. No miracle birth, no virgin birth.

Nor was the deification Yeshua established until 75-125 Years after his execution by Rome. A sham story built round a sham myth. All because some old men who find a way to soak people for money. You are one the people being soaked and you stupid enough to buy the lie they are selling.

 

[Meriweather]

Desperate people turn to things that do not exist. Myth and lies all what Judaism and Christianity is about. Take very much untrue and downright and outright birth of Yeshua. According to the holy myth book, Miryam (correct spelling) rode on the back of donkey over ninety miles with her husband Yoseph (correct spelling) to the city of Bethlehem. Supposedly to be taxed. Miryam was at least nine months pregnant no woman in her right mind would done that. Nor was there anything to tax. Taxes were based how cattle, lambs, piglets and goats were born in spring, nor were there any crops to tax. Which would have happened in the spring, NOT in dead of winter. Christmas was originally a Pagan holiday. Christians jacked the holiday. No miracle birth, no virgin birth.

Nor was the deification Yeshua established until 75-125 Years after his execution by Rome. A sham story built round a sham myth. All because some old men who find a way to soak people for money. You are one the people being soaked and you stupid enough to buy the lie they are selling.

Quite a yarn. There is no Bible verse that Mary rode on a donkey. The December 25 date for Jesus' birth was based on folklore that Jesus was conceived in the spring (March 25) around Passover. You are incorrect about the "deification" as well. Try spending decades of research on this. Try starting with historical figures mentioned in any other myth...

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes. Modern science gives a glimpse of this, with string theory and parallel universes, etc

Science fiction, not science

 

[0311]

Quite a yarn. There is no Bible verse that Mary rode on a donkey. The December 25 date for Jesus' birth was based on folklore that Jesus was conceived in the spring (March 25) around Passover. You are incorrect about the "deification" as well. Try spending decades of research on this. Try starting with historical figures mentioned in any other myth...

All you have is folklore and lies.

 

[Meriweather]

All you have is folklore and lies.

There is so much more. Have you tried the Beatitudes?

 

[0311]

You're wrong any biblical reference to Marium and Yoseph travel to Bethleham.

Luke 2: 4-7.

So Joseph and his wife, Mary, left Nazareth, a village in Galilee, and journeyed to their hometown in Judea, to the village of Bethlehem, King David’s ancient home. They were required to register there, since they were both direct descendants of David. Mary was pregnant and nearly ready to give birth. When they arrived in Bethlehem, Mary went into labor, and there she gave birth to her firstborn son.

She wrapped the newborn baby in strips of cloth, and Mary and Joseph laid him in a feeding trough since there was no available space in any upper room in the village.

Luke 2:4-14.

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 2:4-14 - King James Version

And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. And so it was, that, while they were there, the...

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4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

All you have is folklore and lies.

The thing I've noticed with the anti-gods is how they leave alone Muslim and Hindu, Judaism and even wicca, but deliberately target Christianity. I understand the motive. The closer one is to the true God, the more they hate His followers. You are so predictable

 

[Woodznutz]

According to the holy myth book, Miryam (correct spelling) rode on the back of donkey over ninety miles with her husband Yoseph (correct spelling) to the city of Bethlehem. Supposedly to be taxed. Miryam was at least nine months pregnant no woman in her right mind would done that.

Mary and Joseph likely rode in a cart pulled by a donkey or horse. Common modes of transportation in that day were donkeys, camels, horses, pulled carts.

 

[Woodznutz]

Did Jesus physically ascend to Heaven? I don't dispute a spiritual ascension, but a physical ascension to an unspecified location is beyond my comprehension. Can someone explain this to me?

Once out of sight Jesus shed his "mortal coil".

Angels are spirit beings that often appear as flesh and blood men. Maybe when they reach the top of "Jacob's ladder" (staircase) they shed their flesh and become spirit again.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I know that you are so shit scared of the world that you desperate to believe non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son. Yes, they are myths. The bible has been written and rewritten more times than I can count. Weak mined people want to believe in unreal because the real world scares them.

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Sure glad you won't ever come to my church.



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[jwoodie]

Once out of sight Jesus shed his "mortal coil".

In that case, he did NOT physically ascend to HEAVEN.

 

[0311]

In that case, he did NOT physically ascend to HEAVEN.

As he never existed in first damn place the argument is moot.

 

[Woodznutz]

As he never existed in first damn place the argument is moot.

The existence of God and Jesus Christ are about the only things that make sense.