Did Aliens Drop Jews Into the ME?

[Penelope]

Eridu, a Sumerian city, was founded in 5,400 BC confirmed by archeological/scientific analysis. Thousands of years before the other civilizations, Chinese,Greeks and Jews included. There's a reason why the area is called the cradle of civilization.

The Minoan civilization go's back at least that far as well. No one is claiming the Jews are the first to write their history. They are the first to write history for the region of JERUSALEM. Kind of supports the claim that they originated there ...eh?

The letters from Jerusalem (written as “Urusalim” in the Amarna texts) are from a Canaanite ruler named Abdi-Heba. He states that he is a “soldier for the king, my lord” and requests that the Egyptian monarch send him a messenger and some military men to help resist his enemies. In multiple letters he states that he “falls at the feet of my lord the king, seven times and seven times,” a stock phrase and common ancient Near Eastern motif that conveys his faithfulness to his Egyptian suzerain. He also makes clear that it was not his “father or mother who put me in this place” (on the throne), but rather the “strong arm of the king.” Here Abdi-Heba reveals that he was not the heir to the throne but given the throne of Jerusalem by the Egyptian king himself. He goes on to state that for this reason he will always be a faithful vassal of his Egyptian lord, regardless of any accusation by an enemy to the contrary. Among the enemies he refers to in his correspondence are the “Apiru” (people living on the fringes of society in the second millennium B.C.E., sometimes serving as mercenaries) and the Kashites (a Hittite people from Anatolia).

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Jerusalem in the Amarna Letters

 

[Shusha]

These "Jewish people" you speak of... Where did they come from?

Did they just suddenly appear en mass in the region out of nowhere??

That is my point...

There were people BEFORE the Jews dropped from the sky!

You are attributing something to me that I have not said. That I have actually expressly refuted. I have already noted that there were people there before the Jews in my previous post. The Jewish people, however, are the oldest, surviving, culturally recognizable people in the region.

 

[peach174]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Yes, that is true. Different geographic areas, but similar in time.

No the jews or Hebrews copied from the Sumerians, Sargon.

Or the other way around.
We know that the Hebrews was told orally before it was ever written down.
We don't know that about the Sumerians, at least for now, till maybe further archaeological proof is found.

 

[JQPublic1]

Where does this fit in the timeline of earliest "history" in the region:


A writing system called proto-Elamite, used between around 3200BC and 2900BC in a region now in the south west of modern Iran.

According to the article, this undeciphered specimen is over 5000 years old.
But, who ever wrote it was semi literate. It is full of mistakes that hinder deciphering efforts... Maybe it is the work of ancient kindergarteners.

Breakthrough in world's oldest undeciphered writing - BBC News

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I would vote for None of the Above. Jews evolved in the ME from the existing Sumerian society and, more importantly, moved to Israel. They were in Israel before the Muslims or Christians were.

 

[JQPublic1]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I would vote for None of the Above. Jews evolved in the ME from the existing Sumerian society and, more importantly, moved to Israel. They were in Israel before the Muslims or Christians were.

That which you call Israel now was Canaan then. According to Jewish history the land of the Canaanites was promised to them by God. SO it came to pass that the children of Israel did do battle with the Canaanites and were victorious. And that was the origin of Israel in the Levant, whereas the ten tribes assembled themselves to fulfill the promise of their God. But only one tribe was Jewish...that was the tribe of Judah!

 

[Indeependent]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I put forward a challenge and you haven't responded.
You have claimed multiple times to be real read in regards to the "OT".
Put up or shut up.






Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Yes, that is true. Different geographic areas, but similar in time.

No the jews or Hebrews copied from the Sumerians, Sargon.

 

[Indeependent]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Prove it with some carbon dated pulpus.





Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Yes, that is true. Different geographic areas, but similar in time.

No the jews or Hebrews copied from the Sumerians, Sargon.

 

[Indeependent]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I would vote for None of the Above. Jews evolved in the ME from the existing Sumerian society and, more importantly, moved to Israel. They were in Israel before the Muslims or Christians were.

But only one tribe was Jewish...that was the tribe of Judah!

Now THAT'S an interest piece of...I have no idea.
Where did you get that one.
By the way, the word Judah comes from the word Yehudah, which means, "Thankful".
It has NOTHING to do with accepting The Torah.

 

[Humanity]

And God GIVES reasons

HAHAHAHAHA.........

And you call me "ignorant"!

Do me a favor, I was hoping that we would be able to talk about historical fact rather than some made up sky wizard!

 

[Penelope]

Lets not forget the The Cyrus Cylinder wrote in 6 BC.

 

[ChrisL]

And God GIVES reasons

HAHAHAHAHA.........

And you call me "ignorant"!

Do me a favor, I was hoping that we would be able to talk about historical fact rather than some made up sky wizard!

Well, YOU included it as a poll option.

 

[JQPublic1]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I would vote for None of the Above. Jews evolved in the ME from the existing Sumerian society and, more importantly, moved to Israel. They were in Israel before the Muslims or Christians were.

But only one tribe was Jewish...that was the tribe of Judah!

Now THAT'S an interest piece of...I have no idea.
Where did you get that one.
By the way, the word Judah comes from the word Yehudah, which means, "Thankful".
It has NOTHING to do with accepting The Torah.

I mentioned nothing about the Torah. Have you not read the Old Testament of the Bible? Have you not heard of the ten tribes of Israel? Get educated and return with wisdom.... you are severely lacking......

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

I would vote for None of the Above. Jews evolved in the ME from the existing Sumerian society and, more importantly, moved to Israel. They were in Israel before the Muslims or Christians were.

But only one tribe was Jewish...that was the tribe of Judah!

Now THAT'S an interest piece of...I have no idea.
Where did you get that one.
By the way, the word Judah comes from the word Yehudah, which means, "Thankful".
It has NOTHING to do with accepting The Torah.

We are not called Jews (a derivative of the word Judah) because we are thankful to be alive, or something like that. It is because after the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, only the main tribe of Judah remained, in the Kingdom of Judah. In fact, the first times that the word "Jew" appears in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), is in the Books of Esther, Ezra and Nehemiah after the scattering of the other Ten Tribes. (The small Tribe of Benjamin was absorbed by the Judeans.) JQPublic1 is right. He never mentioned the Torah.

 

[Roudy]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Jews never left Israel dipweed. They always maintained a presence. Israel was Jewish holy land thousands of years before the hoards of Arab Muslim invaders came marching.

 

[Roudy]

The people of Palestine of whatever religion they adopted through the ages, are the offspring of the original people of the area. Europeans that happened to practice Judaism are not.

Islamist propaganda.

 

[Roudy]

"Most Palestinians in Judea & Samaria were formerly Jews


Palestinians maintain Jewish customs, including mourning rituals, lighting Shabbat candles and even wearing tefillin."

Most Palestinians in Judea & Samaria were formerly Jews

Duh, that's because the only people that were referred "Palestinians" were the Jews. Arabs hijacked the name.

 

[Roudy]

I said real archeological findings, not Jewish Bible fairytales.

Archeological findings do not support the existence of an Arab Palestinian country or people.

 

[Roudy]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Yes, that is true. Different geographic areas, but similar in time.

No the jews or Hebrews copied from the Sumerians, Sargon.

Meh who cares?!

 

[Penelope]

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Thought I would start this thread rather than receiving an infraction on a loosely related topic...

It appears that must pro Israelis have issues with history and how it works...

Selecting dates that suit your own personal views is pretty pointless... History is timeless....

Judaism isn't! Neither is Israel...

There really WAS history in the middle east BEFORE Jews arrived....

There has to be a basic acceptance that there was life before Judaism before there can be any sensible discussion!

If that is not possible then, zionuts around the world must accept that aliens dropped Jews onto the planet, AS Jews...

Seems a bit far fetched? Well, reading some, MOST, pro Israeli posts you would think that life did not exist in the ME UNTIL Jews arrived!

Of course there was. There is no question of that. The Jews were the first to actually WRITE down history for that region though. That sets them apart from everyone else....

Jews and Sumerians wrote their history at around the same time.

Yes, that is true. Different geographic areas, but similar in time.

No the jews or Hebrews copied from the Sumerians, Sargon.

Meh who cares?!

Sooner or later all people on the face of the earth will know the truth about the fake jews .