Demystifying Shariah Law: What It Is, & Why It's Not Taking Over USA...we need anti-Islamophobia education in the wake of Rezwan Kohistani's lynching

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sharia is the Islamic law as a whole. Each Muslim follows it and each Islamic government applies it.

No, they don't. Which is a very good thing. The more of both that do not apply it, the better. The more of both who apply it to a lesser degree than they did yesterday, the better.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The point is, he was not a declared Dhimmi. He didn't need to declare as such, as Egypt does not follow strict sharia law, in this respect. My quote/link clearly shows that a declared Dhimmi can enjoy the the Sharia protections of an actual Muslim. Which is equivalent to saying, in this specific space, that a Dhimmi is not inferior to a Muslim. So you just agreed with my post without realizing it. Slow down, you're rabid.

What does "declare as a Dhimmi" mean? It means total subjugation to Sharia Law of the land. Let's get that on record right now. Subjugate yourself to Sharia law, and it protects you like you are a Muslim. That's the proposition on the table. It's theocratic evil.

In this example we are talking about, you see how the law is better by any modern rational or moral standard because of the degree of its abandonment of Sharia law. Sharia law does not get credit for this; it gets the blame for opposing it and the pariah status of an inferior, defeated opponent. This happened quite in spite of Sharia law, and in instead in the spirit of secular government. It should be applauded, but it's the kind applause given to a three year old for pooping in the potty chair, in 2021.

Sharia doesn't even protect Muslims of different sects. Nobody has killed as many Muslims in history as other Muslims trying to force their version of Islam on other Muslims.

 

[Rigby5]

WRONG! The crusades were in response to the incursion of Muslims who were subjugating and killing those wo did not submit. Funny that when the shoe is on the other foot they cried victim...

False.
The Muslim incursion along the whole Mideast happen over 400 years before the Crusades.
The Crusades were actually just a way of getting all the dangerous armed forces out of Europe, so they would stop murdering Europeans.
Christians had no interest or connection to Jerusalem any more, since the Romans left around 300 AD.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

False.
The Muslim incursion along the whole Mideast happen over 400 years before the Crusades.
The Crusades were actually just a way of getting all the dangerous armed forces out of Europe, so they would stop murdering Europeans.
Christians had no interest or connection to Jerusalem any more, since the Romans left around 300 AD.

That's of course a complete fabrication. Christianity had been practice in modern day Israel literally since Christ departed the planet.

 

[Rigby5]

Nowhere does it say death has to be quick and painless.

{... Beheading was a standard method of execution in pre-modern Islamic law. ...}

Decapitation in Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because beheading is the most civilized, since it is quickest and least painful.

 

[OKTexas]

Through scare tactics and deliberate misinformation campaigns, anti-Muslim propagandists insist wrongly that shariah is a draconian and oppressive Islamic law that all Muslims must abide by. They circulate horror stories, encouraging Americans to fear the “takeover of shariah” law in America and even mounting “anti-shariah protests”…with zero evidence that shariah has taken over any part of our country. (That’s because it hasn’t.) It would be almost funny if it weren’t so terrifyingly wrong – as puzzling as if Americans suddenly began protesting the Martian occupation of Earth.

Shariah is not one set of punitive rules or even law the way we think of law – rigid and enforceable – but religious rules and recommendations that provide Muslims with guidance in various aspects of life.

This is obviously a challenging project, and it's hard to find any links that defend Shariah, so i will include an anti-Shariah link for now

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/rita-panahi/islam-is-not-a-feminist-religion/news-story/877699eeb74599585dbddd3af93c0591

Shariah is not one set of punitive rules or even law the way we think of law – rigid and enforceable – but religious rules and recommendations that provide Muslims with guidance in various aspects of life.

I guess the folks in Pakistan would disagree with that tripe.

The Federal Shariat Court (FSC) is a constitutional court of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, which has the power to examine and determine whether the laws of the country comply with Sharia law. The court was established in 1980 during the government of the President General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq. It is located in the federal capital, Islamabad.[1][2] It hears appeals under the Hudood Ordinances, a religious legislation in the country introduced in 1979.[3]

The Federal Shariat Court is the only constitutional authority in the country designed to prevent enactment of un-Islamic laws by the parliament of Pakistan. It is predominantly focused on to examine new or existing law of Pakistan. If a law violates the Quran, sunnah or hadith, it prohibits its enactment.[4]

Aren't they about as Muslim as you can get. Ya think they'd know better than some blogger in Australia?

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[Rigby5]

Sharia doesn't even protect Muslims of different sects. Nobody has killed as many Muslims in history as other Muslims trying to force their version of Islam on other Muslims.

Those are tribal power plays, and have nothing to do with religion actually.

 

[Uranus]

{... Beheading was a standard method of execution in pre-modern Islamic law. ...}

Decapitation in Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because beheading is the most civilized, since it is quickest and least painful.

It is one of the ways of executing the capital punishment, but where does it say "because it is the quickest and least painful" or that it is the only way?

 

[Rigby5]

That's of course a complete fabrication. Christianity had been practice in modern day Israel literally since Christ departed the planet.

So?
That means the Muslim governments were tolerant of Christianity. So what is your complaint?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sharia doesn't even protect Muslims of different sects.

Yep. It is vague. It can, in many ways, be made to mean whatever one wants it to mean. So can a national constitution, to one degree or another, depending on its wording. That's why we have a SCOTUS. So in this respect, it becomes crystal clear why a controlling edict is better based on reason and evidence instead of allegedly revealed, divine knowledge.

I.E., secular, reason-based government. The most important advance for the well being of humanity, as far as governments are concerned, in human history.

 

[Rigby5]

A fine example of how the merit of a code of law can be measured by how much it is NOT sharia.

What is your point?
It was Sharia law that convicted the killer.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What is your point?
It was Sharia law that convicted the killer.

The point is that the departure from sharia law is the reason the killer was convicted.

Had sharia been applied, the killer would go home for dinner.

I thought I was crystal clear.

 

[Rigby5]

Yep. It is vague. It can, in many ways, be made to mean whatever one wants it to mean. So can a national constitution, to one degree or another, depending on its wording. That's why we have a SCOTUS. So in this respect, it becomes crystal clear why a controlling edict is better based on reason and evidence instead of allegedly revealed, divine knowledge.

I.E., secular, reason-based government. The most important advance for the well being of humanity, as far as governments are concerned, in human history.

Except that we totally make it up as we go along, lying about Iraqi WMD so we can murder half a million innocent Iraqis.
And what about the half million we killed with Prohibition?
We lack an ethical foundation, so we claim the Spanish sank USS Maine when in reality they had nothing to do with it.
We then illegally invaded Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, etc.
The secular, reason-based government the US is totally corrupt, unethical, and profit motivated.

 

[Rigby5]

The point is that the departure from sharia law is the reason the killer was convicted.

I thought I was crystal clear.

That is not at all true.
The judgement was entirely Sharia based, if you had read it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Except that we totally make it up as we go along

Indeed we do, thankfully. This is far superior to the alternatives, especially including adhering strictly to a primitive, iron age collection of mythology.

Do you think that was some kind of sick burn you just pinched off? It wasn't. I proudly support "Making it up as we go." Because we, ya know, learn stuff as we go.

So, thank you for the swell compliment to my ideology.

 

[OKTexas]

All minority faiths are treated badly in America. i'll give an example

One of these things is not like the others.

Yep, that World of Marvel is totally out of place.

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[Big Bend Texas]

{... Beheading was a standard method of execution in pre-modern Islamic law. ...}

Decapitation in Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because beheading is the most civilized, since it is quickest and least painful.

Nitrogen gas would actually be the most painless. You simply go to sleep as the concentration of Nitrogen in the chamber is raised until you die of oxygen deprivation.

A bullet to the head is even more quick and painless than beheading because the loss of consciousness is instantaneous with a proper shot.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Those are tribal power plays, and have nothing to do with religion actually.

No they are sectarian wars where one version of Islam is forced on others at the point of a sword just as Islam itself is always spread at the point of a sword or in modern parlance, the point of a gun.

 

[OKTexas]

Islam requires a Muslim to obey the law of the land he or she resides in, generally speaking. If Muslims had to kill everyone who was not a Muslim there would be a continuous blood bath... That's a foolish claim that you can't back up.

You're talking about sharia and Islam as if they were synonymous. Islam is already in US. Nothing you can do about that. They obey sharia — they don't force you to obey it.

Two words, "ur anus".

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[Big Bend Texas]

So?
That means the Muslim governments were tolerant of Christianity. So what is your complaint?

Islam wasn't even an idea for 600 years to come when the fist Christian church was founded in Jerusalem by James, the brother of Christ circa 33 A.D.