Lets get real for a second. If you are partisan spinner on either side please leave now. Here's the deal. Trump made a stupid ignorant statement the other day when he said he didn't want people from Shithole countries coming here. His lackies are looking like fools trying to make excuses for him, trying to make this thing about a PC language issue or pretending that he was simply talking about the conditions of 3rd world countries, or spreading the idiotic narrative that he didn't even say it. Its embarrassing for them. On the flip side, the dems are over playing their hand by going after Trump as a Racist... Let me explain.
I understand the racist argument that the Left is making based on Trumps statements, but I believe that to be subjective and over played in this case. The real issue from what i've seen has more to do with class. Trump doesn't want poor uneducated people coming into our Country. His statement was discriminatory, no question, so lets be accurate and call it that. I don't think Trump would have a problem with a bunch of Ben Carson's coming into our country, I don't think it is a race issue.
Trump wants merit based immigration where we give priority to people who have proven that they have something to contribute to society. People with achievements in education, work, or monetary means have proven merit under his standards and those who are poor or uneducated do not have the same merit. I don't agree with Trump, I believe in giving people opportunity and that nobody is better than the other just because they are born somewhere else or born with more means than another. I also believe that people from poor countries represent a perspective that those from rich countries don't have. They have a great sense of appreciation for opportunity and the American dream because they have gone through the struggle of not having it. That is a valuable perspective to have.
I understand given Trumps history that a link can be made to say that he may assume people of color to fit a certain stereotype unless they have proven otherwise and with that a case for Racism could be made. However, I'd like to see our political discussion less polarized and hyperbolized and more realistic based on the facts. Dems should stop with the hyperfocus on Racism and call this what it is, class based discrimination... Reps need to stop being spin doctor puppets... and Trump needs to grow the **** up and start acting like a leader
That may be one of the best posts I have ever read here and with your permission? I would like to put it on my FB page so let me know. Trump needs to stop denying that he said what he said... even if his comment had some merit. He can be a bit abrupt, blunt and a bit uncouth. If we were to take off our partisan blinders like you did and see "the big picture"? We can only take in so many from other countries and they need to bring something to the table. Trump is being less than honest about the unemployment rate because it is much higher than what he is saying and he is just as guilty of embellishing the numbers that he accused Obama of doing. If manufacturing jobs could really be coming back? I think we have a problem because the technical abilities of the blue collar set has eroded over the last thirty years due to NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT.
The serfs have (for the most part) been given the options of working in the service industry while having to compete with illegals that were willing to "work under the table" thus driving down wages due to competition. The U.N push to push migrants off on Europe and the U.S has caused a major destabilization in the functioning of the countries that have had these people pushed off on them. So if I may, I would like to give my theory as to why this has happened.
Third world countries (though poor) have resources that these multi-corporations covet and they have managed to use the military industrial complex as the hammer to rape, pillage and plunder what they have. They create "revolutions", they destabilize governments that refuse to play ball with them, they back coups and then install a puppet. They back the drug cartels not only in Mexico but South America and the violence and lack of hope causes the very problem we are seeing via immigration.
IMHO, we have to look at the root cause as to why people flee their countries in order to come here or to Europe... and if we are absolutely HONEST about it? We will see that those we believe "govern" us are the ones causing the chaos. I would be interested in your thoughts.
Thanks Dale, yes please feel free to share my thoughts if you are keen to do so. I'm glad I was able to strike a chord, and take it as a great compliment!
As for your theory, that is a very interesting observation. I am not well versed in the details of our foreign affairs as I slept threw most my history classes way back when I was in school and only recently got interested in politics. But would be very interested to look into it at a deeper level. I have tremendous mistrust in our media and government when it comes to reporting the facts, especially with foreign affairs. It is easier to see first had more of the domestic events but the foreign stuff that happens behind closed doors gets spun out to us by the powers at be to tell the story that they want to tell. Thats why I like programs like Vice that do in depth reporting about things happening all over the world.
Im with you on the effect that our trade deals have had on our manufacturing economy. It never made sense to me why we would set such high standards for our manufacturers and then allow our retailers to buy from over seas manufacturers that pay pennies on the dollar under horrible work conditions and standards that we wouldn't allow in our own country.
Thanks for giving me some homework and something to look into. Do you have a recommendation on a situation that best displays your theory?
Thanks, Slade...I wanted to share them on the Ark To Midnight chat room tonight but wouldn't do so until I got your "ok". I will be sharing this post on three other FB pages that I am a moderator on because it is just that good. I will share your post next Saturday night on that chat page.
If I were to give you the non-conspiratorial view of the de-industrialization of America? I would look up archived articles having to do with NAFTA that GH Bush pushed. I had some friends that were more "enlightened" than I was as it pertained to manufacturing jobs and how America would be offshoring jobs but in return for being a mostly "service industry" with a "healthy" dollar ( excuse me while I puke for having had to write that) that we would all benefit from cheaper goods made from cheap labor whose currency would provide them a decent standard of living that they had never enjoyed. I would make the argument that none of that has happened. The shutting down of the textiles on the east coast, the lifting of tariffs on cheap exports on automobiles from Japan (that became an industrial power built on the backs of the American people via the Marshall Plan and the Bretton Woods agreement) and that is why I feel the need to weep at times or laugh at the ridiculousness of it all, Slade......the sweat equity of the people of this country was used to arm those that would hurt the average "Johnny Lunchpail" and it was financed by our labor that moved this fiat currency that was then invested in Japan and later in China......we helped to finance our own demise.
Now, for the conspiratorial side, look up the formation of the "Club of Rome" in 1969 (that took the recommendations of the Iron Mountain Report) and look up the quotes of those like Maurice Strong, the Rio Conference of 1992 where Agenda 21 started. Those involved in the Club of Rome came up with the "Limits To Growth" environmental movement and "Sustainable Development". I am not saying that the environmentalists did not do some incredible good because they did....without a doubt.... but the good that they did led to legislation that hindered industry thus justifying the shutting down of the steel factories, the shutting down of oil refineries (which that is another story all in itself having to do with the petro dollar) and moving them overseas where the confines of rules and regulations were non-existent that benefit the very multi-corporate entities that rape, pillage and plunder third world nations that leave the populace poor and starving LEADING to mass immigration which is part of a grander plan..........yeah, I have a tendency to ramble but thank you for bearing with me.
BTW, I will be sharing your post and giving you credit.......it was a bad ass piece of work for sure.
