Democrats want families earning $500,000 to keep getting Obamacare subsidies!

[Blaster]

People need to stop havng families. Theyre becoming unaffordable.

Get a job.

 

[Lisa558]

I've read about it. All the Americans who've actually used it can't say enough good things about it.

Rather than, like you, identify a sector of the population they're happy to deny health care in the US

Liar. People who have used it complain about the limited networks, high deductibles, and ridiculous premiums.

And who am I denying health care to? You ledftists always lie. I’m saying that wealthy people should pay for their own insurance. Not have taxpayers subsidize them.

 

[pknopp]

I support people getting off their fat asses and eat some greens.

Linda McCartney was in good shape and a vegetarian but still got cancer.

 

[todd down under]

Linda McCartney was in good shape and a vegetarian but still got cancer.

Who? Someone you know?

 

[Lesh]

Biden’s ARP allows for subsidies for anyone if the ACA premium exceeds 8.5% of their income. It also extends the subsidy threshold to 400% above the poverty level, so a family of 4 making 125k would get a subsidy. This was an expansion of the ACA that was sold as a temporary measure.

A family of four making $125K…

NOT $500K

Total bullshit

 

[JoeB131]

Business owners or consultants getting $500,000 a year - some government contractors make that - don’t have employer plans.

And as far as “clawing back” the subsidies, that is fair: they were giving your wife welfare on the basis of a low income projected for the year, and then she married you (poor girl) and her income shot up. Why should taxpayers not get their money back?

Because she wasn't married to me when she got the subsidies. She was living paycheck to paycheck.

(Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but never mind.)

Unlike most couples, we didn't co-habitate before we got married.

So why should I be paying for her subsidies that happened before we got married? that seems kind of stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

So we’ll have a system like the NHS? Read about it.

All single-payer would be is Medicaid, expanded nationally, to 99% of voters. The rich elites would have their own plans.

Nothing the Dem Socialists would love more than to get everyone onto Medicaid.

It would probably be Medicare, not Medicaid.

I'd love to have a system like the NHS. The British live longer, they have a lower infant mortality rate, they don't face bankruptcy due to a medical crisis.

And as long as the rich elites pay their fair share of confiscatory taxes, I'd have no problem with them having 'their own plans".

 

[JoeB131]

A family of four making $125K…

NOT $500K

Total bullshit

A family of four making $125K is probably barely getting by.

 

[todd down under]

I've read about it. All the Americans who've actually used it can't say enough good things about it.

Right, because their is a great swath of people who are just ecstatic about their health care.

 

[pknopp]

A family of four making $125K is probably barely getting by.

certainly one major illness from bankruptcy.

 

[martybegan]

I would rather have my health care come from a government I can vote out if they don't deliver than an insurance company I have no say in.

So let's be clear on this. Obama WANTED a public option and a Medicare Buy-in for people over 55. That was shot down by the Republicans and Joe Lieberman (who only thought that Israelis deserve socialized medicine on the US taxpayers' dime, not Americans!)

Insurance subsidies were a Republican idea, which Obama went along with. And now you are complaining because poor people are getting stuff you think they shouldn't have.

You can change insurance companies, you can't change your government.

And you are a fool to think you can vote out such a program once it become entrenched, and given to the bureaucracy.

 

[todd down under]

A family of four making $125K is probably barely getting by.

lol Then they're making some really really bad decisions.

 

[Lisa558]

Because she wasn't married to me when she got the subsidies. She was living paycheck to paycheck.

(Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but never mind.)

Unlike most couples, we didn't co-habitate before we got married.

So why should I be paying for her subsidies that happened before we got married? that seems kind of stupid.

Because those subsidies were based on her projected annual income, and paid monthly. Her projected annual income for that year turned out to be false once she married you.

 

[Lisa558]

certainly one major illness from bankruptcy.

A family of four earning $125k should budget for health insurance. That was possible before Obamacare caused premiums to skyrocket.

 

[Lesh]

A family of four making $125K is probably barely getting by.

That’s husband and wife making $30 an hour

Better than getting by but not by a lot

And very definitely not in the $500K area

What a crock

 

[pknopp]

A family of four earning $125k should budget for health insurance. That was possible before Obamacare caused premiums to skyrocket.

Premiums were going up pre-Obamacare. That was the reason for the push. Now granted, Obamacare sadly did nothing for rising costs.

Things are so high now because of years and years of pumping the economy not because of Obamacare.

 

[todd down under]

That’s husband and wife making $30 an hour

Better than getting by but not by a lot

And very definitely not in the $500K area

What a crock

What's the crock. If you are only doing marginally well on that, then you're making bad decisions.

 

[Lesh]

A family of four earning $125k should budget for health insurance. That was possible before Obamacare caused premiums to skyrocket.

I remember what healthcare cost before ACA and if you didn’t have employer funded healthcare you were fucked.

If you did, far too much of your wages went for that benefit

Lisa is a dishonest POS

 

[todd down under]

Premiums were going up pre-Obamacare. That was the reason for the push. Now granted, Obamacare sadly did nothing for rising costs.

Things are so high now because of years and years of pumping the economy not because of Obamacare.

Things are high now because the United States is now one of the fattest countries in the world.

 

[todd down under]

And as long as the rich elites pay their fair share of confiscatory taxes, I'd have no problem with them having 'their own plans".

You put the wrong words in quotes.

Should be "fair share."