Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump, Ohio party leaders say

[mudwhistle]

Liberals run the Dem party and their #1 priority is hatred of the very corporations and businesses that create jobs. Most of their policies are aimed to destroy business. Tax increases, regulations, waging war on industries they hate like coal.

Democrats don't hate corporations and businesses because most of the invest in them, if they don't run them themselves.
What Democrats do is rub elbows with the rich all of the while they're trashing them in public, making it look like they're standing up for the poor.
In fact what they're really doing is causing one economic crash after another which helps people with money buy up properties after every crash they cause.

 

[JoeB131]

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In fact what they're really doing is causing one economic crash after another which helps people with money buy up properties after every crash they cause.

Here's the problem with that theory.

All the economic crashes happen when Republicans are in Charge.

2008- Republicans
2001 - Republicans
1990 - Republicans
1987 - Republicans
1981 - Republicans

In fact, you have to go back to 1979 or so to find a Democratic economic crash.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But again, you'll gleefully collect all that "White People Welfare" like Social Security, Medicare and Unemployment Insurance.

Why shouldn't I? I was forced to pay into it my entire life. And whites don't collect on those programs any more than blacks or other minority groups.

Gun in your home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of your family than a bad guy.... This is just plain stupid.

Stupid? Interesting statistic. Did you know you are 90% less likely to be killed in a car crash than those who own a car?

But that's the point. THere isn't such a place because that SHIT DOESN'T WORK!!!

You could argue that we had such a place before FDR (America's GREATEST President) gave us the New Deal, but America was a brutish place to live back then. People lived in miserable tenements - even most white people - and only lived to be about 60.

Which at the time, was still a better place than any other in the world. Now we are 20 trillion in debt (half of it thanks to DumBama) and if something doesn't get done, will be heading for default.

Sure we do. When we win, we don't stomp you guys into the ground. Instead they try to work with you, which is just plain stupid.

Yep, that's what DumBama will be known for: working with the Republicans. You know, he had a pen and he had a cell phone; Republicans can come along for the ride, but they will have to sit in the back seat.

 

[Muhammed]

The party's comeback strategy was being steered by protesters, consultants and elitists from New York and California who have no idea what voters in middle America care about.

I live in Ohio. I think what Ohio needs desperately is stronger voter fraud laws. We have people from the party of slavery from coast to coast ,from New York to California, voting here because Ohio is a "swing state" and Democrats generally have no morals whatsoever.

Even when they do get caught all the punishment they get is a small fine.

What Ohio needs is a zero tolerance policy regarding voter fraud. And by that I mean a mandatory death penalty for anyone convicted of voter fraud.

 

[JoeB131]

Why shouldn't I? I was forced to pay into it my entire life. And whites don't collect on those programs any more than blacks or other minority groups.

first, as I said, you will probably collect more than you ever pay in. If you live to be 72, you are getting more back than you paid in.

And, yes, most of those payments are going to White People. That's why no one complains about it.

Stupid? Interesting statistic. Did you know you are 90% less likely to be killed in a car crash than those who own a car?

Here's the problem with that analogy. I get a practical use out of the car. It gets me to work, to other places I need to be. Life would be a lot more difficult without a car, and my earning potential would be less.

Conversely, you could confiscate every gun in America, and we'd probably be better off. They provide absolutely no benefit at all.

Which at the time, was still a better place than any other in the world. Now we are 20 trillion in debt (half of it thanks to DumBama) and if something doesn't get done, will be heading for default.

No, we just make the rich pay their fair share, and we are fine.

Bring back top marginal rates and estate taxes, we'd get that stuff paid off in a decade. in fact, had we stuck with Bill Clinton's policies, we'd have wiped out the debt by now.

But to the point, you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in 1920's America.

Yep, that's what DumBama will be known for: working with the Republicans. You know, he had a pen and he had a cell phone; Republicans can come along for the ride, but they will have to sit in the back seat.

Actually, what he did was try his best to get them to sign on to ACA or the stimulus by including goodies they wanted like Tax cuts. this is just plain stupid, because it never works.

 

[JoeB131]

What Ohio needs is a zero tolerance policy regarding voter fraud. And by that I mean a mandatory death penalty for anyone convicted of voter fraud.

Yeah, you have issues.

What you really have in Ohio is a lot of dumb people who vote Republican, and wonder why your cities look like Cleveland.

I went to Cleveland once. It was absolutely the most depressing place I ever visited.

 

[Muhammed]

What Ohio needs is a zero tolerance policy regarding voter fraud. And by that I mean a mandatory death penalty for anyone convicted of voter fraud.

Yeah, you have issues.

What you really have in Ohio is a lot of dumb people who vote Republican, and wonder why your cities look like Cleveland.

I went to Cleveland once. It was absolutely the most depressing place I ever visited.

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

 

[JoeB131]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

 

[Disir]

The party's comeback strategy was being steered by protesters, consultants and elitists from New York and California who have no idea what voters in middle America care about.

I live in Ohio. I think what Ohio needs desperately is stronger voter fraud laws. We have people from the party of slavery from coast to coast ,from New York to California, voting here because Ohio is a "swing state" and Democrats generally have no morals whatsoever.

Even when they do get caught all the punishment they get is a small fine.

What Ohio needs is a zero tolerance policy regarding voter fraud. And by that I mean a mandatory death penalty for anyone convicted of voter fraud.

Pffft..........zero tolerance from Ohio?

Get outta here....

 

[Muhammed]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Bullshit, jackass.

It's not just a coincidence that large US cities run by corrupt Democrats are being destroyed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

first, as I said, you will probably collect more than you ever pay in. If you live to be 72, you are getting more back than you paid in.

And, yes, most of those payments are going to White People. That's why no one complains about it.

Did you ever think that's because we have five times more white people than black? Did you ever consider that it's mostly white peoples money in there as well?

Here's the problem with that analogy. I get a practical use out of the car. It gets me to work, to other places I need to be. Life would be a lot more difficult without a car, and my earning potential would be less.

Conversely, you could confiscate every gun in America, and we'd probably be better off. They provide absolutely no benefit at all.

No, here is the problem: the point flew right over your Socialist head as always.

The more guns you have, the more gun accidents you're going to have. The more cars you have, the more car accidents you're going to have. The more swimming pools we have, the more drownings we will have. The more houses we have, the more house fires we will have.

No, we just make the rich pay their fair share, and we are fine.

Bring back top marginal rates and estate taxes, we'd get that stuff paid off in a decade. in fact, had we stuck with Bill Clinton's policies, we'd have wiped out the debt by now.

But to the point, you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in 1920's America.

The rich pay over 70% of all collected income taxes in this country. If 70% is not a fair share--then what is?

Bill Clinton didn't have any polices. He signed into law the Republican Congresses policies. You might not be aware of this, but it's Congress that makes the final decision on taxes and spending. The only thing the President can do is veto their measures and/ or shut down the government.

Actually, what he did was try his best to get them to sign on to ACA or the stimulus by including goodies they wanted like Tax cuts. this is just plain stupid, because it never works.

Speaking of never works, how is Commie Care doing anyways? Oh, that's right, it's a failure.

Give the Republicans some credit for predicting this disaster and voting against it.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit, jackass.

It's not just a coincidence that large US cities run by corrupt Democrats are being destroyed.

Actually, the same is true of large cities run by Republicans, but never mind.

Here's why cities are being destroyed. No one actually wants to live in them when you can live in a nice suburb.

The only people still living in cities are the ones who can't move.

 

[Correll]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

 

[JoeB131]

Did you ever think that's because we have five times more white people than black? Did you ever consider that it's mostly white peoples money in there as well?

Exactly my point. A lot of that money goes to people who probably don't need it because- white people welfare.

The ironic thing is, you are totally cool with Granny getting White People Welfare for decades after she retires but absolutely freak the **** out when Lakesha gets food stamps for a couple of years during a recession caused by the One Percent...

Because... Racism.

The more guns you have, the more gun accidents you're going to have. The more cars you have, the more car accidents you're going to have. The more swimming pools we have, the more drownings we will have. The more houses we have, the more house fires we will have.

except we need houses and cars. We don't need guns. Also, most gun deaths aren't "accidents". Someone usually mean to kill someone when they die of a gun shot.

The rich pay over 70% of all collected income taxes in this country. If 70% is not a fair share--then what is?

No, they don't. They also have 83% of the wealth, so they still aren't paying enough.

Bill Clinton didn't have any polices. He signed into law the Republican Congresses policies. You might not be aware of this, but it's Congress that makes the final decision on taxes and spending. The only thing the President can do is veto their measures and/ or shut down the government.

Bill Clinton was the guy who stopped pissing away money on expensive weapons and made the rich pay their fair share. that's why we had surpluses and prosperity on his watch.

Speaking of never works, how is Commie Care doing anyways? Oh, that's right, it's a failure.

Give the Republicans some credit for predicting this disaster and voting against it.

ObamaCare is working just fine for me. But I work a job where my employer wants to keep me happy with good insurance. Unlike you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Bullshit, jackass.

It's not just a coincidence that large US cities run by corrupt Democrats are being destroyed.

Actually, the same is true of large cities run by Republicans, but never mind.

Here's why cities are being destroyed. No one actually wants to live in them when you can live in a nice suburb.

The only people still living in cities are the ones who can't move.

There is some truth to that, but the reason cities were abandoned was because of white flight. That was accelerated by bussing. Nobody wanted forced bussing, so the people that could afford to move out of the city did.

 

[Mac1958]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

 

[Correll]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why shouldn't I? I was forced to pay into it my entire life. And whites don't collect on those programs any more than blacks or other minority groups.

first, as I said, you will probably collect more than you ever pay in. If you live to be 72, you are getting more back than you paid in.

And, yes, most of those payments are going to White People. That's why no one complains about it.

Stupid? Interesting statistic. Did you know you are 90% less likely to be killed in a car crash than those who own a car?

Here's the problem with that analogy. I get a practical use out of the car. It gets me to work, to other places I need to be. Life would be a lot more difficult without a car, and my earning potential would be less.

Conversely, you could confiscate every gun in America, and we'd probably be better off. They provide absolutely no benefit at all.

Which at the time, was still a better place than any other in the world. Now we are 20 trillion in debt (half of it thanks to DumBama) and if something doesn't get done, will be heading for default.

No, we just make the rich pay their fair share, and we are fine.

Bring back top marginal rates and estate taxes, we'd get that stuff paid off in a decade. in fact, had we stuck with Bill Clinton's policies, we'd have wiped out the debt by now.

But to the point, you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in 1920's America.

Yep, that's what DumBama will be known for: working with the Republicans. You know, he had a pen and he had a cell phone; Republicans can come along for the ride, but they will have to sit in the back seat.

Actually, what he did was try his best to get them to sign on to ACA or the stimulus by including goodies they wanted like Tax cuts. this is just plain stupid, because it never works.

first, as I said, you will probably collect more than you ever pay in. If you live to be 72, you are getting more back than you paid in.

Correct the liberals didn't think ahead when they started this ponzi scheme... Who's fault is that?


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