Democrats seek criminal probe over group chat on Houthi strike

[JoeB131]

No classified information was discussed. Nothingburger.

An imminent military operation wasn't classified?

Why not just text the Houthis in advance?

Stop Drinking The Bleach.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

We are talking about now, which is far more important, yes?

That is irrelevant to my point. The question is: Why didn't Democrats condemn Hilary's actions as vehemently then as they condemn these actions now?

Everybody's focusing on comparing the egregiousness of the two actions and arguing over which is worse. My point is that Democrats have no call to criticize now when they didn't then.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Um, no, you guys made a hysterical deal about emails that were only classified after the fact because our rules for classifying information are kind of outdated. (An article in the NYT is "Classified"? Really?)

This was giving out information on an unsecured service in real time, and I doubt this is the first time they used it. Probably because they don't trust the system the government has because of the "Deep State" or some such shit.

Irrelevant. Hilary knowingly used her own server when doing so was expressly and explicitly prohibited.

I'm not going to bandy words back and forth arguing which was worse because I simply don't care. What I care about is the blatant hypocrisy of the Democrats in this matter.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Um, no, you guys made a hysterical deal about emails that were only classified after the fact because our rules for classifying information are kind of outdated. (An article in the NYT is "Classified"? Really?)

This was giving out information on an unsecured service in real time, and I doubt this is the first time they used it. Probably because they don't trust the system the government has because of the "Deep State" or some such shit.

What she did was far less a boner than the circle jerk with Chat.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

‘Democratic lawmakers called for criminal investigations Wednesday into the conduct surrounding a sensitive group chat in which high-ranking Trump officials discussed military action against the Houthis.

Senate and House Democrats underscored the Espionage Act in letters to the Trump administration as they called for either Attorney General Pamela Bondi or a special counsel to review the activity of the Signal group chat, which has set off a firestorm on Capitol Hill.

The existence of the group chat was revealed by The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, who reported he was accidentally added to the chat. On Wednesday, The Atlantic published the chat that included information about the attacks ahead of “the scheduled start of the bombing of Houthi positions.”

Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, argued in a letter Wednesday that conduct in the group chat was “likely” a violation of the Espionage Act. “This situation is perhaps one of the most humiliating and dangerous national security breaches in modern American history,” Raskin said in the letter to Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, adding that the episode put the lives of American servicemembers at risk.’

Democrats seek criminal probe over group chat on Houthi strike - Roll Call

Democratic lawmakers called for criminal investigations Wednesday into the conduct surrounding a Signal chat discussing military action.

rollcall.com

Very good.

The incompetence and reckless disregard for security protocols is in fact criminal.

Funny how they never wanted a criminal probe when it was Democrat that mishandled classified documents. Since they didn't, they need to shut the fuck up, now.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Funny how they never wanted a criminal probe when it was Democrat that mishandled classified documents. Since they didn't, they need to shut the fuck up, now.

We will get that probe sooner than you think. And you will be shut up.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

We will get that probe sooner than you think. And you will be shut up.

You may be right, but I bet it don't go the way you want it to.

 

[Orangecat]

An imminent military operation wasn't classified?

What specific information was discussed?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I am sure it will.

We have seen Trump, and his gang of stooges just mess up right and left.

They have trouble, for instance, handling the judicial branch, which is on its side.

 

[dudmuck]

Irrelevant. Hilary knowingly used her own server when doing so was expressly and explicitly prohibited.

I'm not going to bandy words back and forth arguing which was worse because I simply don't care. What I care about is the blatant hypocrisy of the Democrats in this matter.

hillary wasnt charged because of lack of intent.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

hillary wasnt charged because of lack of intent.

??

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

??

Hitler held a hard fist of armor back behind Calais.

He had believed an Allied decoy that delayes his release of that armor to Normandy.

If he had in the first 48 hours, the allies may have been thrown into the sea.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Hitler held a hard fist of armor back behind Calais.

He had believed an Allied decoy that delayes his release of that armor to Normandy.

If he had in the first 48 hours, the allies may have been thrown into the sea.

I understand that. I'm just wondering why he addressed it to me.

 

[22lcidw]

hillary wasnt charged because of lack of intent.

Is that what happened? Scorched earth is deserved in this nation. And it will eventually happen.

 

[JoeB131]

Irrelevant. Hilary knowingly used her own server when doing so was expressly and explicitly prohibited.

She received a few emails on her own server, which was probably more secure than the State Department one, which was being hacked on a regular basis by the Russians, Chinese and Iranians.

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www.politico.com

Sources: State Dept. hack the 'worst ever'

Overlooked in the controversy over Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server, is the fact that suspected Russian hackers have bedeviled State Department's email system for much of the past year and continue to pose problems for technicians trying to eradicate the intrusion.

www.cnn.com

I'm not going to bandy words back and forth arguing which was worse because I simply don't care. What I care about is the blatant hypocrisy of the Democrats in this matter.

No hypocrisy at all.

Hillary didn't conduct active military plans on a public messaging service.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The whataboutism of Hillary is deflection.

Our military and intelligence group messed up horribly.

You guys have a leak there, and it is not from the progs.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

She received a few emails on her own server, which was probably more secure than the State Department one, which was being hacked on a regular basis by the Russians, Chinese and Iranians.

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Sources: State Dept. hack the 'worst ever'

Overlooked in the controversy over Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server, is the fact that suspected Russian hackers have bedeviled State Department's email system for much of the past year and continue to pose problems for technicians trying to eradicate the intrusion.

www.cnn.com

Which was against the explicit rules that she was to only use the government's server for official work related e-mails.

As for the government's servers being hacked, they're hacked because these three countries are aggressively determined to undermine the U.S., not because the U.S.'s server is less secure. Hilary's server probably wasn't hacked because no one tried. If they had, they likely would have succeeded.

No hypocrisy at all.

Hillary didn't conduct active military plans on a public messaging service.

I told you, I'm not going to debate with you which was worse.

The issue is not that Democrats are screaming louder over what may be the worst of the two blunders, the issue is that they didn't scream at all in Hilary's case. So yes, that is hypocrisy.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

The whataboutism of Hillary is deflection.

Our military and intelligence group messed up horribly.

You guys have a leak there, and it is not from the progs.

Are we talking about the whataboutism of national security blunders or the fact that Democrats said nothing in Hilary's case?

My point is not about the blunders themselves and which was worse, my point is the decidedly double-standard Democrat response to these blunders. I made that clear in my first post.

 

[JoeB131]

Which was against the explicit rules that she was to only use the government's server for official work related e-mails.

As for the government's servers being hacked, they're hacked because these three countries are aggressively determined to undermine the U.S., not because the U.S.'s server is less secure. Hilary's server probably wasn't hacked because no one tried. If they had, they likely would have succeeded.

I told you, I'm not going to debate with you which was worse.

Because you'd lose. Not that ever stops you the rest of the time.

The issue is not that Democrats are screaming louder over what may be the worst of the two blunders, the issue is that they didn't scream at all in Hilary's case. So yes, that is hypocrisy.

Republicans were the ones chanting "lock her up", while Trump was keeping classified documents in the shitter and his goons are using Signal to do war plans.

Shit, the only way it could be worse if they used WeChat.

My point is not about the blunders themselves and which was worse, my point is the decidedly double-standard Democrat response to these blunders. I made that clear in my first post.

Except it's not really a double standard. No one complained about it at all until someone found an old picture of Hillary looking at her blackberry.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Which was against the explicit rules that she was to only use the government's server for official work related e-mails.

As for the government's servers being hacked, they're hacked because these three countries are aggressively determined to undermine the U.S., not because the U.S.'s server is less secure. Hilary's server probably wasn't hacked because no one tried. If they had, they likely would have succeeded.

I told you, I'm not going to debate with you which was worse.

The issue is not that Democrats are screaming louder over what may be the worst of the two blunders, the issue is that they didn't scream at all in Hilary's case. So yes, that is hypocrisy.

Oh, your debating skills are worse.

The SIGNAL fiasco was far worse.

Now go wash your face.