Democrats Never Want To Discuss Cold, Hard Facts / Numbers - They Prefer To Stick To Warm Fuzzy Feelings (Student Loan Pay-Off)

[otto105]

125k and 250k which will not even be a question for anyone still in collage and those that are paying off the loan as they are starting out. Most of those exceeding those numbers have likely paid off the debt already. The majority of those that are covered will be in the top income brackets within 5 years.

I suppose you would have wanted Salk to apologize for not developing the Polio vaccine earlier. So all, could be equal.

 

[WEATHER53]

I suppose you would have wanted Salk to apologize for not developing the Polio vaccine earlier. So all, could be equal.

Boy thats really ignorant

 

[FA_Q2]

I suppose you would have wanted Salk to apologize for not developing the Polio vaccine earlier. So all, could be equal.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

Nothing, of course. Just you running away, again, because all you do is parrot the party line.

 

[otto105]

WTF does that have to do with anything?

Nothing, of course. Just you running away, again, because all you do is parrot the party line.

Yeah, and all those people who died before the invention of penicillin should hire lawyers to recoup their sacrifice.

 

[Markle]

Bullshit numbers and argument.

 

[Markle]

Not more than the lower and middle incomes.

 

[FA_Q2]

Yeah, and all those people who died before the invention of penicillin should hire lawyers to recoup their sacrifice.

So you do not have an answer. Not surprised you can't deal with a few basic points.

 

[Markle]

No, no it doesn't.

How does a $10,000 gift to folks who have college loans and earn up to $125,000 a year NOT demonstrate wealth from the low and middle-income earners going to the upper-income workers?

 

[otto105]

How does a $10,000 gift to folks who have college loans and earn up to $125,000 a year NOT demonstrate wealth from the low and middle-income earners going to the upper-income workers?

How does it?

 

[Markle]

Dude, the Biden debt program caps the benefits on income.

Yeah, less than $125,000

 

[otto105]

Yeah, less than $125,000

And you consider that rich?

No impressed.

 

[FA_Q2]

How does a $10,000 gift to folks who have college loans and earn up to $125,000 a year NOT demonstrate wealth from the low and middle-income earners going to the upper-income workers?

He already ran from his claims and went into randomly spewing things about vaccines.

As though vaccines have something to do with loan forgiveness. He has not even tried to make the connection.

 

[Markle]

I suppose you would have wanted Salk to apologize for not developing the Polio vaccine earlier. So all, could be equal.

 

[Markle]

And you consider that rich?

No[t] impressed.

Rich, certainly not. Well off? Certainly far better than the average worker.

However, it does seem that if folks can get along on far less, someone with an extra $60.000 a year could pay off their own loans.

What is the average income per person in the US?

• From 1964 to 2018, the average American’s real wage has only increased by $2.38. When adjusted for inflation, the average wage of $2.50 in 1964 would equate to around $20.27. ...
• As of 2020, the average American real wage is $67,521. ..

 

[otto105]

Rich, certainly not. Well off? Certainly far better than the average worker.

However, it does seem that if folks can get along on far less, someone with an extra $60.000 a year could pay off their own loans.

What is the average income per person in the US?

• From 1964 to 2018, the average American’s real wage has only increased by $2.38. When adjusted for inflation, the average wage of $2.50 in 1964 would equate to around $20.27. ...
• As of 2020, the average American real wage is $67,521. ..

Yeah, if they want a chance at that additional 60K going to college would be a good step.

Can you compare taxes paid by college educated people to those with just a HS degree over their working lives.

 

[Rye Catcher]

There are liars, damn liars and statistics.

 

[Markle]

Yeah, if they want a chance at that additional 60K going to college would be a good step.

Can you compare taxes paid by college educated people to those with just a HS degree over their working lives.

Absolutely true, in many cases.

The problem is youngsters have a pie-in-the-sky view of the future. They can major in gender studies or social work, graduate, and then instantly attain the standard of living their folks worked 20 years to earn.

All they have to do if they do major in something that will earn a good income AND live BELOW that level until they pay off their debt. How is that a bad alternative?

There is no realistic way that you, or anyone, can make sense out of nonsense. There just isn't.

 

[otto105]

Absolutely true, in many cases.

The problem is youngsters have a pie-in-the-sky view of the future. They can major in gender studies or social work, graduate, and then instantly attain the standard of living their folks worked 20 years to earn.

All they have to do if they do major in something that will earn a good income AND live BELOW that level until they pay off their debt. How is that a bad alternative?

There is no realistic way that you, or anyone, can make sense out of nonsense. There just isn't.

Not true.

 

[Dragonlady]

125k and 250k which will not even be a question for anyone still in collage and those that are paying off the loan as they are starting out. Most of those exceeding those numbers have likely paid off the debt already. The majority of those that are covered will be in the top income brackets within 5 years.

The idea that everyone who went to college will be making over $100K per year in 6 years is assinine. Your entire post is elitist and lacks any knowledge whatsoever on how the world works.

 

[Dragonlady]

Absolutely true, in many cases.

The problem is youngsters have a pie-in-the-sky view of the future. They can major in gender studies or social work, graduate, and then instantly attain the standard of living their folks worked 20 years to earn.

All they have to do if they do major in something that will earn a good income AND live BELOW that level until they pay off their debt. How is that a bad alternative?

There is no realistic way that you, or anyone, can make sense out of nonsense. There just isn't.

This is bullshit. Young people don't expect this at all. They just want to be able to afford their own apartment, car, or furniture. But with an average of $50,000 in student debt, they don't have sufficient income to do that and pay student loans.

Nor are they getting degrees in "gender studies". A friend, whose niece is getting a degree in social work, is spending $240,000 to go to the top school in the nation, for a job which pays $40,000 per year. This is INSANITY.

Why anyone would go to university to be a teacher in the USA is beyond me. 6 years of college and salaries which wouldn't support a single person, much less a family.

When I went to university, the tuition for 4 years was $8000., and the starting salary for my job at the bank was $15,000 - almost double my tuition. A 4 year degree from Michigan state university is $60,000 for an in-state student. That doesn't include books and fees. Out state fees are over $40,0000 per year. That's over $160,000 for a 4 year program in a State owned school