Democrats name their price on ending government shutdown

[Marener]

millions of who?

~S~

Americans.

 

[JWBooth]

millions of who?

~S~

Leeches

 

[Marener]

We need to dismantle the Obamacare hoax and return to where things were. We had many more people able to afford health insurance before he crammed this down our throats.

That would require actual work to legislate, which clearly this Congress is pretty incapable of doing.

You guys have no idea how to do anything about healthcare and it shows.

 

[j-mac]

Americans.

Define "Americans"....

 

[Lisa558]

That would require actual work to legislate, which clearly this Congress is pretty incapable of doing.

You guys have no idea how to do anything about healthcare and it shows.

And Obama and the Dems did? Look at the mess they created.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Democrats name their price on ending government shutdown​

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/07/senate-democrats-proposal-end-government-shutdown

7 Nov 2025 ~~ By Stephen Neukam & Stef W. Kight

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Friday that Democrats would vote to end the government shutdown in exchange for a one-year extension of expiring ACA tax credits, multiple sources told Axios.

Commentary:
So basically, the compromise is the socialists get what they want, the republicans get bupkis. They want one year because they think they win congress back in a year where they can then ram it through and control a second shutdown.
It's a distinction without a difference. This is STILL trying to put the camel’s nose into the tent, and with the resulting dislocations later on. The place for these spending measures is in a full and real appropriations bill, not a continuing resolution.
Kicking the can down the road only further damages the can. Besides, we are running out of road.
Senator John Kennedy has the right idea.
The Senate should not be paid their monthly salaries until they vote .
If Democrats are willing to stop the government allow the military, air controller and SNAP recipients to go without, then they should also go without the salaries until they sit down and negotiate and leave hostage taking to terrorists.

100% they think that we cant see the plan lol. We know they want to extend in hopes they take over in 2026.

Repubs just need to end the filibuster and pass the bills. It makes no difference, the dems will end it if they take over anyway.

 

[Edgetho]

Of course he is.

His legacy has gone from total nothingburger to complete laughingstock.

He doesn't want to go out like this.

He doesn't give a shit what he goes out as. Neither does Nazi Pelousy. Neither does any other dimocrap scumbag.

They believe in the 'Here and Now' and nothing else. Nothing.

dimocrap FILTH are emboldened by their so-called 'vitctories' in the elections the other night. And the DISGUSTING FILTH is beating the drum. But if you take your time and assess each election individually, you'll come to the conclusion of a "So What?" They won dimocrap scum seats in dimocrap scum districts in -- Not an 'Off year' but in an "Off-Off Year". And in areas where there are a lot of College Pukes.

If Republicans cave to this, I will be extremely disappointed. I also gotta wonder, will Trump gor for it? Does he even have to sign off on it and if he does -- Will he? I'm thinking he has to sign the CR and I hope he doesn't unless it meets Republican requirements.

What are they gonna do? Prosecute him on some made-up, bullshit, pretend Charge?

 

[Marener]

And Obama and the Dems did? Look at the mess they created.

Healthcare negotiations started as a bipartisan attempt, but Republicans left when they realized their base would punish them for working in a bipartisan fashion.

Obama had 60 Senators to pass the bill, which was a remarkable feet full of compromises.

It wasn’t perfect and no one claimed it was.

 

[j-mac]

That would require actual work to legislate, which clearly this Congress is pretty incapable of doing.

And I suppose to you that is totally Democrats fault? Elections have consequences, and in November of last year Democrats LOST!

Now does that mean that Legislators shouldn't entertain ideas from the Democrats? No, of course not. However, what I see Democrats did here is searched through the BBB and were upset at provisions that were passed by Congress, and signed by the duly elected President. It smacks of a party that believes that they can wield controlling power even as the American people have rejected their governance....

The ACA is failing because it always was a deeply flawed program...And really was always more a payoff to Insurance industry titans that donate to the left.

But, regardless of all of that. The expiration was set by Democrats, passed by Democrats, and signed into law by a Democrat....Make no mistake, Democrats own this....

You guys have no idea how to do anything about healthcare and it shows.

That's another issue. The fact is, this expiration is totally at the feet of Dems...And, it's not even all about Health Insurance. Schumer's list of demands reads like a wish list of pure taxpayer giveaways globally for stupid shit....We addressed that when we moved USAID into the State Dept. Dems hate that because that was how they were getting rich, grifting the American tax payer.

 

[Lisa558]

Healthcare negotiations started as a bipartisan attempt, but Republicans left when they realized their base would punish them for working in a bipartisan fashion.

Obama had 60 Senators to pass the bill, which was a remarkable feet full of compromises.

It wasn’t perfect and no one claimed it was.

He had to pull them over the finish line, often “negotiating” in a back room.

And while nobody claimed it was perfect, Obama DID hail it as a wonderful new system, saying we could keep our doctor…..keep our plan….and it would be more affordable too.

Lie. Lie. And lie.

 

[Crepitus]

Dems set the date for the subsidies to expire with no republican votes, and now, like most dems, they don't want to be held responsible for their own decisions. They're trying to place the responsibility on republicans, and have their propaganda machine in high gear.

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And you would rather they were in perpetuity?

You do know that Democrats didn't have filibuster proof majorities, right?

So there was at least tacit agreement from the republicans.

 

[Crepitus]

And I suppose to you that is totally Democrats fault? Elections have consequences, and in November of last year Democrats LOST!

Now does that mean that Legislators shouldn't entertain ideas from the Democrats? No, of course not. However, what I see Democrats did here is searched through the BBB and were upset at provisions that were passed by Congress, and signed by the duly elected President. It smacks of a party that believes that they can wield controlling power even as the American people have rejected their governance....

The ACA is failing because it always was a deeply flawed program...And really was always more a payoff to Insurance industry titans that donate to the left.

But, regardless of all of that. The expiration was set by Democrats, passed by Democrats, and signed into law by a Democrat....Make no mistake, Democrats own this....

That's another issue. The fact is, this expiration is totally at the feet of Dems...And, it's not even all about Health Insurance. Schumer's list of demands reads like a wish list of pure taxpayer giveaways globally for stupid shit....We addressed that when we moved USAID into the State Dept. Dems hate that because that was how they were getting rich, grifting the American tax payer.

Every one of the ACA's issues can be traced back to republican sabotage.

 

[Lisa558]

Every one of the ACA's issues can be traced back to republican sabotage.

It never would have worked. It was predicated on an unconstitutional requirement - forcing Americans to buy a private product.

 

[Seymour Flops]

In other words, if the GOP doesn't cave to Schumer's demands, the Dems think they can shift the blame for the continued shutdown on to the GOP.

Wanna take any bets on how many Republicans give in?

That's the part Democrats don't seem to have thought through in the slightest.

Except for Schumer. He seems to be acting like an idiot right now, but it is an act. Schumer took into account the fact that the GOP and their voters will have far less to lose in a shutdown than Dems and their voters. So he knew that the filibuster would last as long as he wanted it to. His problem is that it will last at least as long as he wants it to, but it could last much longer.

He is waiting for other Senate Democrats to vote for cloture, so he can tell AOC that he tried harder and had a longer shutdown than anyone in history and the first in history over a clean CR.

Two things that he really is an idiot about:

1) No Senate Democrat will want to wrath of the far left of the party, any more than Chucky does.
2) AOC's decision to run or not run in the primary will be based on her estimate of her chances of winning, not on Schumer's acting tough during the shutdown.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Every one of the ACA's issues can be traced back to republican sabotage.

Really?

Trace back to the Republican sabatage that led Obama to proclaim "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

 

[j-mac]

Every one of the ACA's issues can be traced back to republican sabotage.

That's simply untrue....the issues with the ACA are that it was never intended to work...The intent of the ACA was to make health insurance so expensive that it collapsed the system and Universal Health Care, Government funded, would be the only path left...

Y'all didn't take into account how transparent that would be, and who would be responsible...

 

[Lisa558]

Really?

Trace back to the Republican sabatage that led Obama to proclaim "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

….and you’ll pay $2500 less per family.

 

[Lisa558]

That's simply untrue....the issues with the ACA are that it was never intended to work...The intent of the ACA was to make health insurance so expensive that it collapsed the system and Universal Health Care, Government funded, would be the only path left...

Y'all didn't take into account how transparent that would be, and who would be responsible...

They teach that tactic in business school: if you can’t get what you really want, implement something doomed to fail. THEN you’ll get what you originally wanted.

 

[Mac-7]

Then ******* move to ANY other Country.
FU. *****.

There is nowhere to go that is better than America

But when libs kill the Golden Goose that’s all she wrote, not just for patriotic conservatives, but for the whole world

 

[j-mac]

They teach that tactic in business school: if you can’t get what you really want, implement something doomed to fail. THEN you’ll get what you originally wanted.

Yes, and Democrats believe we are too stupid to figure it out.