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Democrats: Here's who's to blame for overturning of Roe...

Lesh

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  1. Wyoming (Population: 581,075)
  2. Vermont (Population: 623,251)
  3. District of Columbia (Population: 714,153)
  4. Alaska (Population: 724,357)
  5. North Dakota (Population: 770,026)
  6. South Dakota (Population: 896,581)
  7. Delaware (Population: 990,334)
  8. Rhode Island (Population: 1,061,509)
  9. Montana (Population: 1,085,004)
  10. Maine (Population: 1,354,522)
DC...with more population than Wyoming and Vermont has NO Senators and no Congressional Reps

ALL OF THOSE STATES have two Senators ..California and NY with MILLIONS more population...have two Senators
 
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DC...with more population than Wyoming and Vermont has NO Senators and no Congressional Reps

ALL OF THOSE STATES have two Senators ..California and NY with MILLIONS more population...have two Senators
DC is a Constitutionally mandated District that has no representation in Congress by design.

It is the seat of the US government and every single person that lives there knew that when they chose to make DC their home.

DC should never be a state.

And IMO if DC was conservative... You'd be singing a different tune... While is still say DC sould never be a state.
 

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DC is a Constitutionally mandated District that has no representation in Congress by design.

It is the seat of the US government and every single person that lives there knew that when they chose to make DC their home.

DC should never be a state.

And IMO if DC was conservative... You'd be singing a different tune... While is still say DC sould never be a state.
Say all you want about DC...but almost a million people (more than in Wyoming or Vermont) have no votes in Congress
 

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  1. California (Population: 39,613,493)
  2. Texas (Population: 29,730,311)
  3. Florida (Population: 21,944,577)
  4. New York (Population: 19,299,981)
  5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,804,123)
  6. Illinois (Population: 12,569,321)
  7. Ohio (Population: 11,714,618)
  8. Georgia (Population: 10,830,007)
  9. North Carolina (Population: 10,701,022)
  10. Michigan (Population: 9,992,427)
ALL of those states with many multiples of Wyoming have exactly the same representation in the Senate as Wyoming.

THAT is how we ended up with Roe being over turned because the Senate controls who is on the SCOTUS
 
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DC is a Constitutionally mandated District that has no representation in Congress by design.

It is the seat of the US government and every single person that lives there knew that when they chose to make DC their home.

DC should never be a state.

And IMO if DC was conservative... You'd be singing a different tune... While is still say DC sould never be a state.

Say all you want about DC...but almost a million people (more than in Wyoming or Vermont) have no votes in Congress
Because they choose to live in a district that was Constitutionally created as the seat of US government with no Congressional seats.

If you choose to live in the 10 mile by 10 mile desert...you can't complain that everyone else has water.
 
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  1. California (Population: 39,613,493)
  2. Texas (Population: 29,730,311)
  3. Florida (Population: 21,944,577)
  4. New York (Population: 19,299,981)
  5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,804,123)
  6. Illinois (Population: 12,569,321)
  7. Ohio (Population: 11,714,618)
  8. Georgia (Population: 10,830,007)
  9. North Carolina (Population: 10,701,022)
  10. Michigan (Population: 9,992,427)
ALL of those states with many multiples of Wyoming have exactly the same representation in the Senate as Wyoming.

THAT is how we ended up with Roe being over turned because the Senate controls who is on the SCOTUS
By Constitutional design.
 

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DC...with more population than Wyoming and Vermont has NO Senators and no Congressional Reps

ALL OF THOSE STATES have two Senators ..California and NY with MILLIONS more population...have two Senators

DC...with more population than Wyoming and Vermont has NO Senators and no Congressional Reps

Because the Constitution.
Give DC to Maryland.

ALL OF THOSE STATES have two Senators ..California and NY with MILLIONS more population...have two Senators

Because the Constitution.
 

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  1. California (Population: 39,613,493)
  2. Texas (Population: 29,730,311)
  3. Florida (Population: 21,944,577)
  4. New York (Population: 19,299,981)
  5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,804,123)
  6. Illinois (Population: 12,569,321)
  7. Ohio (Population: 11,714,618)
  8. Georgia (Population: 10,830,007)
  9. North Carolina (Population: 10,701,022)
  10. Michigan (Population: 9,992,427)
ALL of those states with many multiples of Wyoming have exactly the same representation in the Senate as Wyoming.

THAT is how we ended up with Roe being over turned because the Senate controls who is on the SCOTUS

ALL of those states with many multiples of Wyoming have exactly the same representation in the Senate as Wyoming.

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ALL of those states with many multiples of Wyoming have exactly the same representation in the Senate as Wyoming.
Does that make sense? Wyoming with THIRTY NINE MILLION less people than California has the same influence over the Supreme Court
 

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I blame Democrats who didn‘t vote in 2016.

Yes, we know you weren’t crazy about Hillary Clinton. Not many were. But compared to the alternative? This is what happens when you don’t vote. I hope they learned their lesson.

You know what‘s more helpful than protesting after Trump won? You know what’s more helpful than protesting what the Supreme Court did? VOTING.
 

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I blame Democrats who didn‘t vote in 2016.

Yes, we know you weren’t crazy about Hillary Clinton. Not many were. But compared to the alternative? This is what happens when you don’t vote. I hope they learned their lesson.

You know what‘s more helpful than protesting after Trump won? You know what’s more helpful than protesting what the Supreme Court did? VOTING.
That was how we got here.

Hillary haters and Bernie Bros
 

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Does that make sense? Wyoming with THIRTY NINE MILLION less people than California has the same influence over the Supreme Court

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Wyoming with THIRTY NINE MILLION less people than California has the same influence over the Supreme Court

I know.
 

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It's not Trump.

Trump gets the credit...he nominated the majority that overturned Roe v Wade... that's his legacy...but the blame from the point of view of the Democrats should lie elsewhere.

Mitch McConnell should get a little.

He didn't change the rules though. He simply made choices unpopular with Democrats within his power by refusing to confirm Merrick Garland.

He also removed the filibuster on Supreme Court Justices confirmations in retaliation for an earlier Democratic Filibuster rule change.


But that's not the person that's really to blame.

Enter Democrat Majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada...the person who initially nuked the filibuster for a considerably short term gain of a few federal judgeships...

Much of the blame falls here.

You should read this one...Harry Reid's interview where he states he has laid the groundwork for Democrats to nuke the Filibuster for Supreme Court nominations if Hillary is Elected President.

Outgoing Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said he is confident that he has laid the groundwork for Democrats to nuke the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees if they win back the Senate in November.​
Envisioning Hillary Clinton in the White House and Democrats controlling the Senate, Reid warned that if a Senate Republican minority block her Supreme Court nominee, he is confident the party won’t hesitate to change the filibuster rules again.​



Next...Hillary Clinton. She knew what was on the line...and proceeded to run one of the most ill conceived Presidential campaigns in recent memory, capped with a loss to a challenger with no campaign experience, no political experience and... according to the polling...no chance of winning.

A chunk of blame goes here.

__________

And last but not least...former President Obama.

The leader of the party who without doubt put his personal seal of approval on the fateful decision to send Harry Reid to the floor of the Senate to nuke the filibuster and show those Republicans who is boss.

He believed Hillary was a shoe in for 2016 and there was a good chance Democrats would take the Senate...but mostly I think it was ego, hubris, and short-sighted strategy that contributed to one of the all-time political backfires in US history.

President Obama applauded Senate Democrats Thursday for changing the rules on filibusters, saying too many of his nominees and initiatives have been blocked by Republicans for strictly partisan reasons.​
<Snip>​
The change does not affect nominees for the Supreme Court. Nor does it apply to legislation, though Obama suggested he wouldn't mind seeing that change as well.​




So...there you go...when you are sitting alone at home fuming over the fate of Roe...these should be the targets of your animosity.
I wish you the best of luck in your crusade. :113:
 

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The score is inconsequential...if the team that plays the best game...a metaphor in this instance for the best constitutional argument... wins, then the score is trivial.
That's clearly wrong. A 5-4 decision doesn't have the same legitimacy as 9-0.
When unanimous decisions are handed down, it makes a strong political statement.

No different from a presidential election where someone wins 270 to 268 compared to 355 to 3
 

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I don't think so. They got that one right. IMHO.

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Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137 (1803), was a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case that established the principle of judicial review in the United States, meaning that American courts have the power to strike down laws and statutes that they find to violate the Constitution of the United States. Decided in 1803, Marbury is regarded as the single most important decision in American constitutional law.[1][2] The Court's landmark decision established that the U.S. Constitution is actual law, not just a statement of political principles and ideals, and helped define the boundary between the constitutionally separate executive and judicial branches of the federal government.

The case originated in early 1801 as part of the political and ideological rivalry between outgoing President John Adams and incoming President Thomas Jefferson.[3] Adams had lost the U.S. presidential election of 1800 to Jefferson, and in March 1801, just two days before his term as president ended, Adams appointed several dozen Federalist Party supporters to new circuit judge and justice of the peace positions in an attempt to frustrate Jefferson and his supporters in the Democratic-Republican Party.[4] The U.S. Senate quickly confirmed Adams's appointments, but outgoing Secretary of State John Marshall did not deliver all of the new judges' commissions before Adams's departure and Jefferson's inauguration.[4] Jefferson believed the undelivered commissions were void and instructed his Secretary of State, James Madison, not to deliver them.[5] One of the undelivered commissions belonged to William Marbury, a Maryland businessman who had been a strong supporter of Adams and the Federalists. In late 1801, after Madison had repeatedly refused to deliver his commission, Marbury filed a lawsuit in the Supreme Court asking the Court to issue a writ of mandamus forcing Madison to deliver his commission.[6]

In an opinion written by Chief Justice John Marshall, the Court held firstly that Madison's refusal to deliver Marbury's commission was illegal, and secondly that it was normally proper for a court in such situations to order the government official in question to deliver the commission.[7] But in Marbury's case, the Court did not order Madison to comply. Examining the section of the law Congress had passed that gave the Supreme Court jurisdiction over types of cases like Marbury's, the Court found that it had expanded the definition of its jurisdiction beyond what was originally set forth in the U.S. Constitution.[8] The Court then struck down that section of the law, announcing that American courts have the power to invalidate laws that they find to violate the Constitution.[9] Because this meant the Court had no jurisdiction over the case, it could not issue the writ that Marbury had requested.
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