Democrats hate the US Constitution because it puts checks/restrictions on their power, says Levin

[francoHFW]

What made them "conservative?"

isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity? Same shit you fascists still preach?

From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America.



A living wage?

Is that why you open the borders to flood the labor markets with cheap illegal labor?

LOL - you fascists are such frauds.



The South, the democrats, were on the wrong side.

You are STILL on the wrong side - you haven't changed.

democrats have been scum since Andrew Jackson created the racist sewer that is your party.

democrats, democrats never change.

Now they are Republicans. Look in the mirror. Lol

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

No, you missed the meaning of your own post. You said "The founding fathers were slave owners therefore all of us who claim American citizenship are descendants of slave owners." Now, since "all of us who claim American citizenship" are not actually descended from the founding fathers, since many are descended from families that immegrated later, your statement is wholly inaccurate, ergo false.

Fathers, FATHERS!! What is so difficult to understand?

 

[francoHFW]

What made them "conservative?"

isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity? Same shit you fascists still preach?

From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America.



A living wage?

Is that why you open the borders to flood the labor markets with cheap illegal labor?

LOL - you fascists are such frauds.



The South, the democrats, were on the wrong side.

You are STILL on the wrong side - you haven't changed.

democrats have been scum since Andrew Jackson created the racist sewer that is your party.

democrats, democrats never change.

Yet you defend the confederacy. By the way fascists are Nazis and Nazis are fascists and they are right wing nationalists and racist. That's right wing savage capitalism and nationalism racism. That's you you are a southern conservative.

No we are reopening our national immigration system that gives asylum to people. After the fascist Nazi trump closed the border totally there is a backlog especially in these hard times. The problem is we're not helping them in their own countries in fact we have turned Nicaragua and Venezuela into the Cold War yeah. Great job!

 

[francoHFW]

What made them "conservative?"

isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity? Same shit you fascists still preach?

From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America.



A living wage?

Is that why you open the borders to flood the labor markets with cheap illegal labor?

LOL - you fascists are such frauds.



The South, the democrats, were on the wrong side.

You are STILL on the wrong side - you haven't changed.

democrats have been scum since Andrew Jackson created the racist sewer that is your party.

democrats, democrats never change.

Since Reagan, the GOP are the conservatives and the Democrats are the liberals which is socialism by another name because socialism is poison thanks to a century of British savage capitalist propaganda.

 

[jasonnfree]

Since Reagan, the GOP are the conservatives and the Democrats are the liberals which is socialism by another name because socialism is poison thanks to a century of British savage capitalist propaganda.

Social security is a form socialism. I can't imagine any country not having these safety nets.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Now they are Republicans. Look in the mirror. Lol

Nah, you're just an ignorant liar.

democrats never change.

You have yet to point to anything that was "conservative" about the Antebellum South (oh look it up, you ignorant troll).

The South was run by a small group of Oligarchs - George Soros, Tim Cook types of their day. Like the democrat Oligarchs of today, the government served the will of the Oligarchs then. Now you are poorly educated and have zero knowledge of history. You spew the Nazi democrat fable that "all whites are oppressors and had slaves." It's bullshit of course, less than 5% of white people owned slaves in the Antebellum South. Slaves were concentrated on large plantations owned by the Oligarchs. Did I mention that the plantations (no word if they were named "Facebook" or "Apple") owned the governments of the states they were in? Just like the democrats today...

Now one of the lies you Nazis LOVE to tell is that the Oligarchs were advocates of "states rights." But then there is the whole "fugitive slave act" thing. Compelling free states to act as agents of slave states against their will is hardly promoting sovereign states. But as I said - you democrats are ******* liars - you were then - you are now. democrats never change.

Another lie you vermin like to tell is that the Antebellum democrats "supported property rights." Another lie of course. Consider the "small holder act" in Georgia, that allowed plantations to seize by force any farm under 100 acres. Property theft by democrat oligarchs is the opposite "property rights."

So what have we learned? Well you haven't learned anything - you're not capable of learning.

But lurkers have learned that democrats in the old south were big government thugs who imposed their will on other states and who had contempt for private property and property rights - just like democrats today.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yet you defend the confederacy.

Ah yes, you are indeed a ******* liar.

By the way fascists are Nazis and Nazis are fascists and they are right wing nationalists and racist. That's right wing savage capitalism and nationalism racism. That's you you are a southern conservative.

Typical exchange with a democrat:

democrat: Fascism is right wing
American: What makes it right wing?
d: Because it's fascist
A: Okay, but what makes fascism right wing?
d: because it's capitalist
A: Weren’t Mussolini and Hitler collectivists with the state controlling the means of production?
d: They were corporatists
A: So they sold stock in an exchange?
d: well, there were private owners
A: So there was no exchange or stock involved like a corporation would use?
d: greedy Capitalists pigs
A: but there was no stock for the public to buy and ownership was set by the party that ruled the government?
d: see - capitalists
A: Government controlling the means of production is capitalism?
d: Racist
A: isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity?
d: Racism is right wing
A: From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America?
d: Democrats were Republicans back then
A: That's just stupid. Back to fascism.
d: Fascism is right wing
A: Fascism holds that the state - the government, is supreme. Isn't that what democrats claim?
d: Republicans are fascists
A: Don't Republicans advocate for individual civil rights?
d: We need courts to make laws at the federal level to ensure rights for women by imposing law from the top
A: shouldn't people decide for themselves on a state by state basis?
d: You're destroying democracy

No we are reopening our national immigration system that gives asylum to people. After the fascist Nazi trump closed the border totally there is a backlog especially in these hard times. The problem is we're not helping them in their own countries in fact we have turned Nicaragua and Venezuela into the Cold War yeah. Great job!

You've opened the border and crushed low wage earners - destroying millions of lives in your lust for power because Americans won't vote for you.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Since Reagan, the GOP are the conservatives and the Democrats are the liberals which is socialism by another name because socialism is poison thanks to a century of British savage capitalist propaganda.

So, you have no idea why you would claim Antebellum democrats were "conservative" other than it furthers the "Big Lie" that you spread.

 

[Silent Warrior]

Fathers, FATHERS!! What is so difficult to understand?

Fathers in "founding fathers" is used in the metaphorical sense. It does not mean they were the biological fathers in reality. To use your own words " what is so difficult to understand?" I understand the point you are trying to make, invalid as it actually is, but you are doing a very poor job of stating it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Fathers in "founding fathers" is used in the metaphorical sense. It does not mean they were the biological fathers in reality. To use your own words " what is so difficult to understand?" I understand the point you are trying to make, invalid as it actually is, but you are doing a very poor job of stating it.

Figurative speech.
Figurative.
You must have missed that chapter in 6th grade English class.

 

[toobfreak]

The solid 2.0 GPA helps....

Seriously. A degree in something yet he perennially gets his facts and interpretations about historical events wrong! I'd be looking for a refund back from that school!

And for what? So you can walk around with a bunch of historical events in your head that anyone can look up on Wikipedia in 2 seconds?

 

[Silent Warrior]

Actually, I didn't, but you obviously missed both English and Biology classes. You are trying to denigrate people with a "figure of speech," to make an invalid point. Many Americans have no familial relationship to anyone that owned slaves or approved of slavery. Northerners even fought a war and stopped the practice. Just out of curiosity, since most slaves shipped to the US from Africa were sold to the slavers by black tribes, do you say the same thing about Africans? In relationship to the point you are trying to make, many Americans do have a tie to slavery, but to claim that moving to this country after slavery was ended makes people just as subject to ties to slavery that happened before they arrived is ludicrous.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Actually, I didn't, but you obviously missed both English and Biology classes. You are trying to denigrate people with a "figure of speech," to make an invalid point. Many Americans have no familial relationship to anyone that owned slaves or approved of slavery. Northerners even fought a war and stopped the practice. Just out of curiosity, since most slaves shipped to the US from Africa were sold to the slavers by black tribes, do you say the same thing about Africans? In relationship to the point you are trying to make, many Americans do have a tie to slavery, but to claim that moving to this country after slavery was ended makes people just as subject to ties to slavery that happened before they arrived is ludicrous.

Look up facetiousness.

 

[Silent Warrior]

Look up facetiousness.

Don't need to. Any of the effectiveness of your "figure of speech" was negated by the civil war. Perhaps it would have been a valid figure of speech prior to the war, but no longer. I realize you can't give up on your statement once you have made it, but it definately is not facetious. Since I seem to be debating with a wall here I will let you have the last say so you can stoke your ego and be done with it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Don't need to. Any of the effectiveness of your "figure of speech" was negated by the civil war. Perhaps it would have been a valid figure of speech prior to the war, but no longer. I realize you can't give up on your statement once you have made it, but it definately is not facetious. Since I seem to be debating with a wall here I will let you have the last say so you can stoke your ego and be done with it.

My comment was facetious but you insist on staying literal. You’re a psycho.

 

[francoHFW]

Social security is a form socialism. I can't imagine any country not having these safety nets.

Socialism everywhere but brainwashed savage capitalist English speaking countries is known as fair capitalism with a good safety net period end of story always democratic. If it is not democratic it is communism. All those countries have had democracies which managed to have socialist and communist parties for years period- the communists never won, socialists won and every country in the modern world but the United states is socialist now. We are health care away from basic socialism. But we are also the only modern country without a living wage health care for all paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich. The UK Canada Australia and New Zealand have socialism but they have to call it labourISM or something because socialism is a trigger for all kinds of communist Marxist claptrap from conservatives.

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. A degree in something yet he perennially gets his facts and interpretations about historical events wrong! I'd be looking for a refund back from that school!

And for what? So you can walk around with a bunch of historical events in your head that anyone can look up on Wikipedia in 2 seconds?

After a while with enough facts you get to see the whole forest and not just trees. Like you figure out that the GOP has always been a disaster with corrupt bubbles and busts from corrupt deregulation every time. And the fact that the giveaway to the rich keeps going and the rubes don't even know.

 

[toobfreak]

After a while with enough facts you get to see the whole forest and not just trees.

Apparently you still have a long way to go before you clear the woods.

 

[Silent Warrior]

Apparently you still have a long way to go before you clear the woods.

Yeah, never let facts get in the way of good propaganda.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yeah, never let facts get in the way of good propaganda.

Are you suggesting Fascist Franco has ever posted a fact on USMB?

Talk about "fake news."