Democrats Change 181 Year-Old Rule To Allow Ilhan Omar To Wear Hijab In The House

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Except it was not changed for a Jew with generations of American-ness behind him, but for a newcomer.

Well, at least you're honest that your objection is hypocritical.

HOw it is it hypocritical to want newcomers to adopt to our ways, instead of the other way around?

Omar has lived in the US for more than 20 years and been a citizen for 18 years. I don't know that "newcomer" is really an apt term.

Well, my family has been in this country since before this rule was put in place. And I still think it's ridiculous to get all worked up about this. So there's that.

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

But I thought you dumb liberals wanted a separation of Church and State?

This is the sort of trap you find yourself in when you are a mindless idiot who supports stupidity.

Who gives a shit if this woman wears a hijjab or not?

Yeah, uh, I have no idea who and what you're responding to. That's why the message board has a "Quote" and a "Reply" function.

Also, the people objecting to her wearing the hijab on the House floor aren't liberals. They aren't especially conservative, but they're at least nominally right-wing.

I was speaking to liberals in general, hence not quoting anyone in particular. But now I'm talking to you specifically.

You're obviously an idiot. My point was simple , if you ACTUALLY believed in a separation of church and state you would tell this woman "I"m sorry, but you must keep your religion out of Congress, PERIOD" but liberals never actually believe in anything, that's why they get caught by their own lack of principles so often.

Myself, I don't care if a Christian prays in his Congressional office, so having principles I also can't care if a Muslim wears a hijjab.

That's not freedom of religion. That is freedom FROM religion. Read your 1st Amendment please!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Great, let me know when you can come up with a compelling reason to deny a U.S. citizen their First Amendment rights.

Yeah, I have to wonder when accommodating the Constitutional rights of US citizens became "special treatment". I was pretty sure that was something that was supposed to be done for everyone.

Could a member of Congress carry a gun into a session of Congress?

The answer is no, rendering your argument that she has a Constitutional right to wear her hijjab as stupid as you are.

Well, no. Safety in Congress is a compelling interest to keep guns out. There is no compelleling interest from what I can see to not allow a female Muslim to wear a hijab, or a male Jew from wearing a yarmulke.

Also, I don't know of any member of Congress, or any employee of the Capitol building, who is objecting to the rule about guns. They all seem pretty okay with it.

what does that have to do with anything dipshit? If Congress can restrict rights, they can restrict rights , whether people object or not.

Damn you are a simple minded moron.

Whose rights are they restricting by ALLOWING freedom of religion?

You are arguing against yourself there noob!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Could a member of Congress carry a gun into a session of Congress?

The answer is no, rendering your argument that she has a Constitutional right to wear her hijjab as stupid as you are.

Well, no. Safety in Congress is a compelling interest to keep guns out. There is no compelleling interest from what I can see to not allow a female Muslim to wear a hijab, or a male Jew from wearing a yarmulke.

Also, I don't know of any member of Congress, or any employee of the Capitol building, who is objecting to the rule about guns. They all seem pretty okay with it.

what does that have to do with anything dipshit? If Congress can restrict rights, they can restrict rights , whether people object or not.

Damn you are a simple minded moron.

It has to do with the fact that we're not talking about a law here, Gomer. On either point. We're talking about rules of behavior in the Capitol building, their workplace. If they all agree that they're okay with not exercising their Second Amendment rights in that place, then there's not actually anything to discuss.

Ms. Omar is obviously NOT okay with not exercising her First Amendment rights.

Also, as Faun pointed out, there is absolutely no compelling reason to restrict or violate her First Amendment rights. As far as anyone can tell, there's no reason for it at all, compelling or otherwise. And Congress DEFINITELY cannot restrict or violate any rights without a reason, just for the Hell of it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you started off by saying you didn't see a reason for her not to wear a hijab, and casting aspersions at the liberals for opposing it, even though they aren't. And NOW you're arguing against her wearing it, simply because you're pissed off that I pointed out how much you had stepped on your own johnson.

SOMEONE is certainly simple-minded, anyway.

You are stupid.

The claim was made that preventing her from wearing her hijjab would violate her first amendment right, I rightfully pointed out that no it wouldn't just as not allowing a person to carry a gun doesn't violate that person's second amendment right.

I've NO doubt that you would not be on here making the argument that its okay to change the rules because she has a right if she wanted to carry a gun.

You truly are a simpleton, a drink of bleach is what you need.

They didn't restrict her rights! They removed the restriction, dumbass!

Congress could just as easily make it a rule that members of the House can bring firearms on the House floor!

 

[irosie91]

Well, at least you're honest that your objection is hypocritical.

HOw it is it hypocritical to want newcomers to adopt to our ways, instead of the other way around?

Omar has lived in the US for more than 20 years and been a citizen for 18 years. I don't know that "newcomer" is really an apt term.

Well, my family has been in this country since before this rule was put in place. And I still think it's ridiculous to get all worked up about this. So there's that.

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

 

[Faun]

HOw it is it hypocritical to want newcomers to adopt to our ways, instead of the other way around?

Omar has lived in the US for more than 20 years and been a citizen for 18 years. I don't know that "newcomer" is really an apt term.

Well, my family has been in this country since before this rule was put in place. And I still think it's ridiculous to get all worked up about this. So there's that.

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

 

[irosie91]

Omar has lived in the US for more than 20 years and been a citizen for 18 years. I don't know that "newcomer" is really an apt term.

Well, my family has been in this country since before this rule was put in place. And I still think it's ridiculous to get all worked up about this. So there's that.

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

 

[danielpalos]

How much is this "concession to the right wing" going to set back women's equal rights movement?

 

[Faun]

Well, my family has been in this country since before this rule was put in place. And I still think it's ridiculous to get all worked up about this. So there's that.

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

 

[irosie91]

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

wrong again----the religion advocates covering the hair------it does
not demand a SPECIFIC SYMBOLIC OF ISLAM kind of hair
covering. There is an issue of DECORUM-----which is why when you go into a mosque you should not wear a giant crucifix but should have the decency to put on at least a beanie or kerchief. -------you should also keep your dinner napkin on your lap when you go out for supper. Simple etiquette The good news is that WHITE GLOVES are no longer mandatory in church

 

[danielpalos]

sorta true-------but not. None of those rules should have
been changed----even the breast feeding. There are
a myriad of ways to "cover" one's head without announcing
one's religious proclivities. There are a myriad of ways to
deal with breast feeding without the distraction of having
a baby in arms. ------- "there's that...." ?? do you have
background in India? Idiom in the USA would be a resounding
SO THERE!!!!!!

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

Here is the point, some on the left have with it. It is not about freedom, equality, or equal rights. It is about Men not being able to "behave themselves" allegedly, unless women cover up. That is simply not true. And, women should not be "bearing the burden" of Men, not being able to practice equality or equal rights with women, regardless of any clothing.

Clothing, does not a moral person make.

Stop being Lazy right wingers. Women should be able to walk around nude and still be taken seriously in serious venues.

 

[Faun]

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

wrong again----the religion advocates covering the hair------it does
not demand a SPECIFIC SYMBOLIC OF ISLAM kind of hair
covering. There is an issue of DECORUM-----which is why when you go into a mosque you should not wear a giant crucifix but should have the decency to put on at least a beanie or kerchief. -------you should also keep your dinner napkin on your lap when you go out for supper. Simple etiquette The good news is that WHITE GLOVES are no longer mandatory in church

Again, that’s not your call to make. You don’t get to tell others how they should practice their religion.

 

[Faun]

How many Muslim women were in Congress when that rule was enacted?

Zero.

You don't get to decide what religious freedoms are allowed or not.

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

Here is the point, some on the left have with it. It is not about freedom, equality, or equal rights. It is about Men not being able to "behave themselves" allegedly, unless women cover up. That is simply not true. And, women should not be "bearing the burden" of Men, not being able to practice equality or equal rights with women, regardless of any clothing.

Clothing, does not a moral person make.

Stop being Lazy right wingers. Women should be able to walk around nude and still be taken seriously in serious venues.

 

[Wyatt earp]

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

wrong again----the religion advocates covering the hair------it does
not demand a SPECIFIC SYMBOLIC OF ISLAM kind of hair
covering. There is an issue of DECORUM-----which is why when you go into a mosque you should not wear a giant crucifix but should have the decency to put on at least a beanie or kerchief. -------you should also keep your dinner napkin on your lap when you go out for supper. Simple etiquette The good news is that WHITE GLOVES are no longer mandatory in church

Again, that’s not your call to make. You don’t get to tell others how they should practice their religion.

It's on public property.


.

 

[danielpalos]

there are many religions that use CHARACTERISTIC forms of dress--------none belong in the senate or house. The Hijab is not "religion"-----It is a DECLARATION-----I AM A MUSLIMAH----the
issue is covering the hair------lots of ways to cover ones hair without
wearing religion on top------<<<<<Dat's da point. You have not been around-----I have encountered muslim women who DO IT----in a manner not IN YOUR FACE. Even Sikhs find ways. It is a matter
of decorum

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

Here is the point, some on the left have with it. It is not about freedom, equality, or equal rights. It is about Men not being able to "behave themselves" allegedly, unless women cover up. That is simply not true. And, women should not be "bearing the burden" of Men, not being able to practice equality or equal rights with women, regardless of any clothing.

Clothing, does not a moral person make.

Stop being Lazy right wingers. Women should be able to walk around nude and still be taken seriously in serious venues.

you need a valid argument, silly.

 

[Faun]

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

wrong again----the religion advocates covering the hair------it does
not demand a SPECIFIC SYMBOLIC OF ISLAM kind of hair
covering. There is an issue of DECORUM-----which is why when you go into a mosque you should not wear a giant crucifix but should have the decency to put on at least a beanie or kerchief. -------you should also keep your dinner napkin on your lap when you go out for supper. Simple etiquette The good news is that WHITE GLOVES are no longer mandatory in church

Again, that’s not your call to make. You don’t get to tell others how they should practice their religion.

It's on public property.


.

So what? Religious people have always been allowed to cover their hair on public property. On all public property except for the House gallery.

 

[Faun]

LOL

Who the **** are you to tell others how to practice their religion??

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

Here is the point, some on the left have with it. It is not about freedom, equality, or equal rights. It is about Men not being able to "behave themselves" allegedly, unless women cover up. That is simply not true. And, women should not be "bearing the burden" of Men, not being able to practice equality or equal rights with women, regardless of any clothing.

Clothing, does not a moral person make.

Stop being Lazy right wingers. Women should be able to walk around nude and still be taken seriously in serious venues.

you need a valid argument, silly.

That was.

 

[danielpalos]

I am a kind, sympathetic, helpful person. Letting persons from other lands know about little rules of decorum in the USA-----is one of the nice things I do. Where do you see "telling people how to practice
their religion"? are you ******* delusional?

You said you don’t want them wearing things like hijabs in Congress. That’s a form of practicing their religion. It’s not up to you how they cover their hair. Are you so demented, you don’t know what you say?

Here is the point, some on the left have with it. It is not about freedom, equality, or equal rights. It is about Men not being able to "behave themselves" allegedly, unless women cover up. That is simply not true. And, women should not be "bearing the burden" of Men, not being able to practice equality or equal rights with women, regardless of any clothing.

Clothing, does not a moral person make.

Stop being Lazy right wingers. Women should be able to walk around nude and still be taken seriously in serious venues.

you need a valid argument, silly.

That was.

nothing but fallacy? are you on the right wing.

 

[OldLady]

Could a member of Congress carry a gun into a session of Congress?

The answer is no, rendering your argument that she has a Constitutional right to wear her hijjab as stupid as you are.

Well, no. Safety in Congress is a compelling interest to keep guns out. There is no compelleling interest from what I can see to not allow a female Muslim to wear a hijab, or a male Jew from wearing a yarmulke.

Also, I don't know of any member of Congress, or any employee of the Capitol building, who is objecting to the rule about guns. They all seem pretty okay with it.

what does that have to do with anything dipshit? If Congress can restrict rights, they can restrict rights , whether people object or not.

Damn you are a simple minded moron.

Donovan, when you are going to answer a poster, hit "reply" in the bottom right corner of the post you are responding to, so the rest of us know who in hell you're talking to (or about). If you like, practice on this one.

Thank you.

That's what I've been doing?

Sorry--You are apparently replying to someone I have on ignore.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Well, no. Safety in Congress is a compelling interest to keep guns out. There is no compelleling interest from what I can see to not allow a female Muslim to wear a hijab, or a male Jew from wearing a yarmulke.

Also, I don't know of any member of Congress, or any employee of the Capitol building, who is objecting to the rule about guns. They all seem pretty okay with it.

what does that have to do with anything dipshit? If Congress can restrict rights, they can restrict rights , whether people object or not.

Damn you are a simple minded moron.

Donovan, when you are going to answer a poster, hit "reply" in the bottom right corner of the post you are responding to, so the rest of us know who in hell you're talking to (or about). If you like, practice on this one.

Thank you.

That's what I've been doing?

Sorry--You are apparently replying to someone I have on ignore.

I can definitely see why you would have said poster on ignore.