Democrats Are In Total Meltdown

[sparky]

The Dems blew it , they were cocky and overconfident fueled by leftist media canned polls

~S~

 

[toobfreak]

The Dems blew it , they were cocky and overconfident fueled by leftist media canned polls

Democrats have no idea why they lost, will never believe they did a thing wrong, and whose answer to every setback is to, rather than change direction, to just keep redoubling their efforts until they either win or die completely.

Democrats hold everything in common with a virus. Trump is the Doctor here with a cure.

 

[para bellum]

I have never made any bones about being anti-Trump, due to his performance in office, attempting to overthrow a free and fair election, his morals, his character, etc. I simply did not believe the electorate take the chance, knowing what they know, and having seen it. I happened across the article of some professor, with a good track record for predicting, exceeding the polling averages and posted it. Just because he won, changes nothing of my evaluation of him. That is what I voted, and stand by my vote. I have not suffered or grieved, as some on here report of committed Democrats, as I full support the election and results of the decision of the election, just as I did in 2020 and every other election. I do hope it works out well. I am sure it will for me, just as it did for me during ever other administration, as I never depended on who was in office, providing for myself and my family. I hope it works out for you,

I know you are anti-Trump, that isn't a secret to anyone. I was just thinking how in the days before the election there was a lot of talk here about how the polls were moving steadily in Trump's direction.

You posted about that professor guy, and it seemed to me like you really thought highly of his ability to predict. I researched him a little bit, and found out what his system was all about- the so-called 13 points or indicators. My sense was that they were too subjective to be meaningful. For example he gave Harris the incumbent advantage, even though she wasn't really an incumbent President. He said he only predicted popular vote, but by that standard 2 of his predictions were actually failures, not successes.

I could pretty much take any of those 13 points and argue them both directions. His qualification is that he is "a political science professor", which is just appeal to authority and not argument.

So I was asking you if you still thought the same way, given his failure this time.

I will be fine, thanks. The person who occupies the oval has little to no actual impact on my life. I'd happily trade the White House for a republican governor for about 8 years...

 

[White 6]

I know you are anti-Trump, that isn't a secret to anyone. I was just thinking how in the days before the election there was a lot of talk here about how the polls were moving steadily in Trump's direction.

You posted about that professor guy, and it seemed to me like you really thought highly of his ability to predict. I researched him a little bit, and found out what his system was all about- the so-called 13 points or indicators. My sense was that they were too subjective to be meaningful. For example he gave Harris the incumbent advantage, even though she wasn't really an incumbent President. He said he only predicted popular vote, but by that standard 2 of his predictions were actually failures, not successes.

I could pretty much take any of those 13 points and argue them both directions. His qualification is that he is "a political science professor", which is just appeal to authority and not argument.

So I was asking you if you still thought the same way, given his failure this time.

I will be fine, thanks. The person who occupies the oval has little to no actual impact on my life. I'd happily trade the White House for a republican governor for about 8 years...

I was doing some checking of the gambling odds, polls, "pundit" predictors, and others with track records of predicting elections and ran across. Never heard of him before in my life. I was not too tied up on any 13 points and do not know what they were, only his track record, mentioning it, and posting link. Looks like he got this one wrong. Guess he will have to keep his day job.

We have done OK, with our Republican Governor, whom I voted for twice. This is a conservative state. It is a conservative state. He and I talked one morning a little over a year ago. when the state was taking over a local park, as a state park. A few hours later, he announced plans on my request/recommendation, and construction is about finished, this year. Naturally, I am satisfied and think well of him, and his governance, but the rest of the state, pretty much approves of his tenure, also.

 

[sparky]

Democrats hold everything in common with a virus.

Dibs the '25 strain won't be as contagious Toob......~S~

 

[westwall]

It takes more than 3 months to put together a good campaign, much less a perfect campaign. Trump campaign did a good job of tying her to Joe's decisions.

Makes sense, she WAS part and parcel, and SHE was the tie breaking vote for the Inflation Creation Act.

So the entire middle class was harned by HER actions.

 

[toobfreak]

The Dems blew it , they were cocky and overconfident fueled by leftist media canned polls

I just heard that Trump got more votes in Philadelphia than Harris did! And that there was not a single country all across the USA where Harris did better than Joe Biden in 2020--- she was a total loser!

 

[Frankenstein]

What’s worse in when you watch the idiots on places like “the View”, they say Kamala ran a “perfect” campaign, did nothing wrong. It’s ALL the fault of misogyny and racism, is the only explanation.

Just like the liberals to double down on stupid!

 

[Frankenstein]

Someone needs to go check on her cats


Cause I hope she hung herself

Who is this guy? Wonder if he gargled with razor blades the next day?

 

[Man With A Plan]

It takes more than 3 months to put together a good campaign, much less a perfect campaign. Trump campaign did a good job of tying her to Joe's decisions.

My take on that is Kamala would have been better served if it were far LESS than 3 months, White! As she started to talk more...do more appearances...and try to answer even a few questions...she revealed that she was nothing more than an empty suit with no real convictions about anything other than saying whatever she thought might get her elected.

 

[White 6]

Makes sense, she WAS part and parcel, and SHE was the tie breaking vote for the Inflation Creation Act.

So the entire middle class was harned by HER actions.

Well, fine, but, it was Joe's show. Anybody not actually aware, the relationship of responsibility and authority, being simply misguided. She no longer matters, serving out the last two months of Joe's administration. Kind of like Hillary, not mattering since her loss to Trump in 2016. She will preside over and announce the recording of elector college result, solidifying for official Congressional record, as all Vice Presidents have, just like Nixon/Kennedy, Al Gore/SonovaBush. It will be lackluster and perfunctory. No telling what is ahead for her. As I have stated here since she became VP, I suspect her to be another living example of the "Peter Principal" that people in a hierarchy rise to their highest level of inefficiency, based on their performance in previous positions, and then advance no further. She's toast.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Who is this guy? Wonder if he gargled with razor blades the next day?

Probably been in the fetal position since 11pm Tuesday

 

[toobfreak]

It will be lackluster and perfunctory.

Perfunctory. What a perfect word to describe Biden/Harris' entire pseudo-term in power.

No telling what is ahead for her.

Book deals and lectures soothing frazzled leftist nerves?

As I have stated here since she became VP, I suspect her to be another living example of the "Peter Principal" that people in a hierarchy rise to their highest level of inefficiency

Wow, then she must have been REALLY inefficient!

 

[White 6]

My take on that is Kamala would have been better served if it were far LESS than 3 months, White! As she started to talk more...do more appearances...and try to answer even a few questions...she revealed that she was nothing more than an empty suit with no real convictions about anything other than saying whatever she thought might get her elected.

Not a bad take. Her early wave rode fairly high, but it had time to recede. I still think, it was the Trump campaign strategy of tying her to the mistakes of the Biden Administration, whether she was much of a shot caller or even heavy influencer. I doubt she was either, and it takes more than being "in the room". Any way you slice it, they made it Trump misdeeds/flaws vs 4 more years of the Biden Administration, and successfully attack Biden on the economy and the border. Trump campaign wanted to run against Joe, even when Joe was no longer the standard-bearer, and it worked.

 

[Ringel05]

I just wanted to acknowledge that I was wrong a couple of years back when I thought there was no way Trump could win the White House again. However after watching the despicable Machiavellian style shenanigans the Dems have perpetrated over the last few years I'm glad Trump won. I want to thank those Dems for driving me (a former never-Trumper) firmly into the Trump camp.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I just wanted to acknowledge that I was wrong a couple of years back when I thought there was no way Trump could win the White House again. However after watching the despicable Machiavellian style shenanigans the Dems have perpetrated over the last few years I'm glad Trump won. I want to thank those Dems for driving me (a former never-Trumper) firmly into the Trump camp.

I was never a "Trumper" or even a "never Trumper" but the choice was obvious

 

[White 6]

Perfunctory. What a perfect word to describe Biden/Harris' entire pseudo-term in power.


Book deals and lectures soothing frazzled leftist nerves?


Wow, then she must have been REALLY inefficient!

You didn't think so, up to now? Try to relax. She cannot affect you.

 

[Mac-7]

My take on that is Kamala would have been better served if it were far LESS than 3 months, White! As she started to talk more...do more appearances...and try to answer even a few questions...she revealed that she was nothing more than an empty suit with no real convictions about anything other than saying whatever she thought might get her elected.

Trump didnt even have to speak

One picture was worth a million votes

X

 

[Man With A Plan]

Not a bad take. Her early wave rode fairly high, but it had time to recede. I still think, it was the Trump campaign strategy of tying her to the mistakes of the Biden Administration, whether she was much of a shot caller or even heavy influencer. I doubt she was either, and it takes more than being "in the room". Any way you slice it, they made it Trump misdeeds/flaws vs 4 more years of the Biden Administration, and successfully attack Biden on the economy and the border. Trump campaign wanted to run against Joe, even when Joe was no longer the standard-bearer, and it worked.

One of the problems that Kamala faced was that for most of the Biden spending bills...she was the tie breaking vote in the Senate that got them passed! Then there was her being given the job of Border Czar by Biden. So for the two things that mattered most to people...the economy and the border...she appeared to be Biden's right hand man (or woman?). What always shocked me was that Harris never seemed to have good responses to questions about the economy or the border! It always seemed like she was surprised by the question. How could that be?

 

[White 6]

One of the problems that Kamala faced was that for most of the Biden spending bills...she was the tie breaking vote in the Senate that got them passed! Then there was her being given the job of Border Czar by Biden. So for the two things that mattered most to people...the economy and the border...she appeared to be Biden's right hand man (or woman?). What always shocked me was that Harris never seemed to have good responses to questions about the economy or the border! It always seemed like she was surprised by the question. How could that be?

That move to make her Border Czar was cool! Spot and gun sight, but no authority. I was tickled at Joe, on that one. Just like something I would have done with an XO if he was seen laughing at the O'Club over something I was taking sh#t for. Great teaching point! VP's don't laugh in public at the problems and attention directed to their boss's Fk Up. She became a supporting team member after that, learning the lesson only too well. At least too well for electability.