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It looks to me that the Proud boys are simply responding to provocations and attacks. The guy who saidok----so you ADMITTED that "proud-boys" got involved in ONGOING RIOTS and somehowViolenceI do not know their agendas. Do you know of any violence andWhat about fascists like the oath keepers and proud boys?I condemn fascists and their supporters-----like BLM.You failed to condemn fascists. So you are a fascistDo live you in a mental institution?The topic you started is COVID; stick to the topic.There are many honest Republicans who stood up to fascist trumpThere are 2 groups of people I cannot tolerate [1] Liberals, [2] Neo-Cons.I believe you are a fascist and fascists tend to make things up as they go. No moralsAnswer my question first.Do you condemn the oath keepers and proud boys?What does facism have to do with a fact?I see that you are saying that but fascists lie a lotYou mean you aren't upset that 15 Democrat MDs in Congress and Dr. Falsee allowed 500,000 to die?I should stay current while you talk about the pastDo try to stick to the current context.We had 17 MDs in Congress, 15 of them were Ds, and we had Falsee, and not one of them said a damn word about COVID.China and India downplayed corona tooWhy are Asian leaders murdering their citizens with COVID?EXACTLY!! No one is guaranteed success. Everyone needs to work hard for it. Compare the racism when Trump was president to now with Xiden as president. Trump was color-blind and gave generously to black colleges. Xiden has CRT and the 1619 Project promoting racial animosity.
Uh, did you live in some ALternative reality where Trump didn't kill 600,000 people and lost 65 million jobs?
Especially India where the Best and the brightest are dying by the second?Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'
“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” Trump said at a rally on Friday.www.nbcnews.com
We had 17 MDs in Congress, 15 of them were Ds, and we had Falsee, and not one of them said a damn word about COVID.
Trump wanted to close the border and the 15 Democrat MDs Congress called Trump a racist.
What kind of animal are you?
It's obvious you're emotionally disturbed and mentally ill because you can't respond to a fact.
You are the former and cannot address the fact that Ds and Rs are scum.
In your world, all Ds are angels; they suck as much as the Rs.
One of the things I hate about liberals is their lack of focus.Florida Man and Self-Identified Proud Boy Arrested for Assault on Law Enforcement During Jan. 6 Capitol Breach
Today, a Florida man and self-identified Proud Boy was arrested for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.www.justice.gov
I BELIEVE that he wanted a demonstration in that direction but NOT violence and riotYou don't think the President of the United States asking his supporters to stop the certification of the election win of his opponent something they did by breaking into the capitol is an event?the question about the Jan 6 nonevent? I survived the 60s and severalYour two comrades here have not answered the questionagreeing with that ^^^ statement does nothing to render your "blame itAgreedracism exist(ed)(s) thruout the world and thruout human historyDo you believe racism exists?Wether it exists or not, your post isn't evidence of it.Does racism exist?I take it that you believe that's proof of racism.On average, Black households in the U.S. with heads who have completed a college degree have less net worth than white households headed by someone with less than a high school education.We are victims, asshole. What do you call Affirmative Action if not persecution of white people?Kansas City Mayor Lucas, 10 other US mayors pledge to pay reparations for slavery
Mayor Jones says, ‘We need decisive action to address the racial wealth gap holding communities back across our country.”fox4kc.com
How is stealing my money paid in taxes, ment to manage the cities needs, to pay random black people going to solve ANYTHING? I wasn't even alive when slaves existed.
We have created an endless tidalwave of victimhood & entitlement.
We've also spent TRILLIONS trying to help poor minority families and individuals to no avail.
360000 men died fighting for the north. When will random people receive reparations for their sacrifice?
When will black leaders rise up and demand that the left stop patronizing them?
Someone somewhere in my family tree was treated unjustly or worse but that has NOTHING to do with my success or failure in life.Go through this board. Count how many people here claim white people are victims of something being done by or for black people. Including this OP. Victimhood is claimed, day after day, BY PEOPLE SUPPORTING THE GOP. These issues that are brought up ad nauseum are like catnip FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU.We have created an endless tidalwave of victimhood & entitlement.
Why it matters: It is only after completing advanced post-college work that the median Black household surpasses the median white household's net worth for a head with only a high school degree.
Even then, the average Black earner has about half as much wealth as the average white earner with just a college degree
on racism" obsession credible
riots in other eras. Jan 6 was a NONEVENT----it was rendered an event
POLITICALLY by DA LEFT. I am a registered democrat
crime organized by either group? I live in an epicenter of the
fascist filth of BLM. I have never had conversation or interaction
with a "proud-boy" or an "oath keeper"
Violence has been a key component of the Proud Boys since the group’s creation.
On August 22, 2020, members of the Proud Boys fought with counter-protestors in Portland, Oregon. This clash between right-wing and left-wing activists was one of many in Portland and other American cities throughout the summer, and Proud Boys had been a fixture at most of them.
Ahead of the August 22 brawl, one prominent member of the group, Tusitala “Tiny” Toese, who is barred from taking part in any protest in Portland as a condition of his probation following his sentencing for assault, explained that the Proud Boys were in the streets because they were “pissed off and didn’t want to see this country burn.” This is part of a trend of far right vigilantism where Proud Boys self-deputize in order to “assist” law enforcement. Armed with bear mace, clubs, paintball guns and in the case of one Proud Boys member, an actual gun, the Proud Boys engaged in multiple acts of violence against counter-protestors and members of the media. One journalist suffered a broken finger when Proud Boys member Travis Taylor allegedly attacked him with a club.
Patriot Prayer, frequent Proud Boys collaborators, organized another protest that turned violent, on August 15, 2020. The event was attended by Proud Boys, including Alan Swinney, who would later brandish a revolver at the August 22 protest, and who came to the August 15 event armed with a paintball gun, which he used on counter-protestors. One person was injured after being hit with a paintball pellet, although it is unknown if Swinney was the shooter. At least two gunshots were reported during the protest; the shooter remaining unknown. One day earlier, Proud Boys clashed with counter-protestors in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
No members of the Proud Boys were arrested in the aftermath of these protests although a Multnomah County judge issued a new warrant for Tusitala Toese following his appearance at the August 22 protest.
McInnes has repeatedly advocated brutal tactics when dealing with the Proud Boys’ sworn enemies -- anti-fascist counter protestors, otherwise known as antifa -- and leaked chats from social messaging app Telegram reveal a clear pattern of inciting violence. In a June 2016 episode of the “Gavin McInnes Show”, McInnes warned his enemies, “We will kill you. That’s the Proud Boys in a nutshell. We will kill you.”
And yet, the group’s leaders have repeatedly attempted to distance themselves from violence, both threatened and actual. In the aftermath of the 2018 brawl in Manhattan, McInnes stated in an interview with NewsmaxTV that he does not “control these guys” and described himself as “the founder, not the leader.” Similarly, Tarrio has repeatedly insisted that the Proud Boys organization is nonviolent.
Again, real world events belie the claims made by various Proud Boys leaders. Not only have there been several instances where Proud Boys have engaged in unprovoked violence, their social media conversations also demonstrate how inciting violence and responding to small slights with brutal force is key to the Proud Boys’ strategy. In fact, while the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights (FOAK) was formed to serve as a “tactical defense arm” (italics ours) of the Proud Boys, its leader, Kyle Chapman AKA Based Stickman, is a violent felon who has repeatedly encouraged violence against anti-fascist activists, and whose persona stems from his history of threatening counter-protestors with a heavy iron stick. Similarly, Proud Boys and their allies purposefully organize and act in a manner that will all but guarantee violence. In advance of the August 2019 “End Domestic Terrorism” rally in Portland, Oregon, organizer and outspoken Proud Boys ally, Joe Biggs, posted videos of himself holding a spiked baseball bat with the words “Make America Great Again” emblazoned on it, telling the camera that “We’re going to put this to good use.” He also posed wearing t-shirts reading, “I’m Just Here for the Violence” and “Death to Antifa.”
Screen shots of conversations on Telegram reveal how members of the Proud Boys consider any provocation to be a direct assault that legitimizes any use of force as acceptable retaliation. In advance of an April 2019 rally in Rhode Island, a poster wrote, “If any contact is made with you, that’s assault. If they take your hat, spray you with silly string, spit, push… It’s assault. We need to have all our guys there before we retaliate though if we can. The cops aren’t going to let us fight long. We need to inflict as much damage as possible in the time we have.” In the same chat room, a Proud Boy member using the name “Jason Cardona” posed with a hatchet, writing, “Group, meet Kindness.” Later he posed with a large knife and wrote, “If they want to meet wisdom all they have to do is ask.” Poster “Col. Kish” wrote, “It’s a prior service Marines [sic] to get out and continue beating the fuck out of communists, semper Fi ooh ra.”
At the rally in Rhode Island, among others, there have been instances of Proud Boys engaging in unprovoked attacks, as well as groups of Proud Boys attacking single counter-protestors.
In January 2020, Proud Boy member, Tusitala “Tiny” Toese, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor assault charge for an attack on a man in Portland. Fellow Proud Boy Donovon Flippo had earlier pleaded guilty to fourth-degree assault for the same incident.
In August, 2019, former Patriot Prayer member and current Proud Boy member, Russell Schultz, along with five others, was indicted for rioting following a fight outside the Cider Riot bar in Portland.
On January 6, 2019, self-proclaimed Proud Boy Buckey Wolfe allegedly murdered his brother with a samurai-style sword, claiming that “God told me he was a lizard.” The Proud Boys released a statement saying that Wolfe had never been approved as a member, but according to the Daily Beast, Buckey’s Facebook profile included pictures of him with other members of the group. At the time of the murder, Buckey reportedly subscribed to the QAnon conspiracy theory. Prosecutors say that Buckey demonstrated signs of mental illness.
YOU DECIDED that they were "unprovoked" assaulters and vandalizers-----try again and
proofread your posts. FINALLY you cited a psychotic samurai sword wielder
"If any contact is made with you, that’s assault. If they take your hat, spray you with silly string, spit, push… It’s assault."
Is correct. Do you believe the Proud Boys are not allowed to defend themselves? Do you believe the BLM has a right to attack them?