Why should the Democratic Party be different?

Why? You ask

Well IMHO it is because America is not a political party. Political parties hate national cohesion and Unity

So therefore when a political party represents a deceitful agenda, like the Dem's Impeachment hoax is, then it is incumbent upon Congressmembers to do the moral and ethical thing ---just like these 20 Dems are doing.
Your lame talking points are lame.

This is a well-deserved impeachment. Trump is a lifelong criminal.
 
Why should the Democratic Party be different?

Why? You ask

Well IMHO it is because America is not a political party. Political parties hate national cohesion and Unity

So therefore when a political party represents a deceitful agenda, like the Dem's Impeachment hoax is, then it is incumbent upon Congressmembers to do the moral and ethical thing ---just like these 20 Dems are doing.
Your lame talking points are lame.

This is a well-deserved impeachment. Trump is a lifelong criminal.

And you've got your head up your ass.

keep pushing it.

It's been paying dividends for months now.

And it will only get better.
 
The Week started out with 10 Democrats signing an official letter and sending it to Pelosi that she drop impeachment, and instead settle for a Censure of The President.

Then things got heated for numerous Democrats when they went home, with their phone lines being blown up, offices inundated with letters, and being shouted down in public all threats from their constituents to vote them out of office if they vote to impeach The President over a 3 year long nothing burger and witch hunt.

Then we hear another 5-7 Dems are strictly opposed to impeachment, and will vote no on top of the previous 10 mentioned.

And Now not 1 but 2 Democrats are leaving The Democrat Party over Impeachement.

So far we have about 20 Democrats giving the Middle Finger to Pelosi and more than Half The Country doing the same.

And More, MORE pain and suffering for The Democrat Party is on the horizon, as Trump is kicking ass with trade deals and his popularity is surging as people grow hostile towards impeachment and Pelosi's Propaganda.

Democrat Congressman Leaving Party Over Impeachment, Becoming Republican

Trump supporter grabs spotlight at Sanders event with a message for the president

State Senator Quits PA’s Democratic Party

Black Senator from Deep South Leaves Democratic Party to Become a Republican


All it would take to kill it is 17 dems voting no.

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A few Democrats will not vote to impeach, and they will be primaried in November. You can’t be okay with Trump committing Constitutional crimes (and now, also, statutory crimes) and expect to remain a Democrat in Congress in 2021. Van Drew is switching parties. The guy in Minnesota has always been Republican-Lite. Who else? I think even Max Rose will vote for it. And he represents policemen and firemen who overwhelmingly live on Staten Island.


Hate to tell ya, the primaries will happen long before Nov, which is the general election. In many States it's already too late to enter a primary.

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The Week started out with 10 Democrats signing an official letter and sending it to Pelosi that she drop impeachment, and instead settle for a Censure of The President.

Then things got heated for numerous Democrats when they went home, with their phone lines being blown up, offices inundated with letters, and being shouted down in public all threats from their constituents to vote them out of office if they vote to impeach The President over a 3 year long nothing burger and witch hunt.

Then we hear another 5-7 Dems are strictly opposed to impeachment, and will vote no on top of the previous 10 mentioned.

And Now not 1 but 2 Democrats are leaving The Democrat Party over Impeachement.

So far we have about 20 Democrats giving the Middle Finger to Pelosi and more than Half The Country doing the same.

And More, MORE pain and suffering for The Democrat Party is on the horizon, as Trump is kicking ass with trade deals and his popularity is surging as people grow hostile towards impeachment and Pelosi's Propaganda.

Democrat Congressman Leaving Party Over Impeachment, Becoming Republican

Trump supporter grabs spotlight at Sanders event with a message for the president

State Senator Quits PA’s Democratic Party

Black Senator from Deep South Leaves Democratic Party to Become a Republican
From your first link, Mr. Tree: "New Jersey Democratic Congressman Jeff Van Drew, who has strongly opposed the Democrats’ impeachment efforts, is leaving the Democratic Party and becoming a member of the Republican Party after meeting with President Donald Trump."​

I'd just like to give a warm welcome to Jeff Van Drew for his courage of leaving the liars behind. The article said 20 others are contemplating leaving the Democrat's little hatefest. They're good Americans for seeing that lying is a bad idea in American politics. For a while, I thought none of them would see the light, but there are 20 good people in the Democrat Party after all. For all their majority, these few are the ones most like my parents where all were welcome in each others' homes, regardless of political party, and people voted their conscience. I am truly happy to see there are good people walking away from the insane phony impeachment. And I also wondered how people could stand all Pelosi's threats to defund them if they didn't lockstep their vote her way, regardless of what they thought was right.
By my count there are so far 20 Democrats who are breaking rank with Pelosi's Personal Partisan Impeachment.
Pelosi is dealing with that by making an example of Mr. Drew to frighten them back to the party she has kept through fear.
 
A few Democrats will not vote to impeach, and they will be primaried in November. You can’t be okay with Trump committing Constitutional crimes (and now, also, statutory crimes) and expect to remain a Democrat in Congress in 2021. Van Drew is switching parties. The guy in Minnesota has always been Republican-Lite. Who else? I think even Max Rose will vote for it. And he represents policemen and firemen who overwhelmingly live on Staten Island.
How TOTALITARIAN OF YOU.............If any of yours refuse to toe the line.......you will take out your own........

We already knew that about you and your party. You WILL OBEY..........The motto of the Dem party???
Correct. If you don’t want to abide by the rules and the principles of the Shriners, don’t become a Shriner. If you don’t believe in the policies and values of the Freedom Caucus, don’t join the Freedom Caucus.

Why should the Democratic Party be different?

Because the "Party" will lose the House.

You just have to understand the spin.

It's not about some moderate saying they are putting "country over party." Give me a fucking break.
They aren't elected to serve the country they are elected to represent their voters. That's their only
duty.

Yes the dems can primary a moderate in a Trump district and beat him/her. But, the person that wins
that primary will be mauled in the General Election. Thus, they still lose the seat.

The Dems are up against this.

One thing that we will discover tomorrow is that it will be bipartisan against impeaching the President.
That will resonate across the entire country.
If they lose the House they do so while retaining their principles.

Democrats have integrity. They’re not Republicans.
Kick your heels together, wave a wand, inhale deeply, and maybe Democrats will one day stop the prevarications, return to integrity and the nation that Democrat parents used to support in the 50s and 60s. Nowadays, narcisstic behaviors exist where sounder reason stood for things they could be proud of..
 

Quite simple, Synthabolic: the impeachment hurts everyone, especially the nation. There are absolutely no winners in this and the whole thing is just one last ditch effort to hurt Trump and drag him down enough in the eyes of voters because the Left knows they will lose again to him next year in a fair fight.

Or do you think for a second the Democrats EVER thought the Senate would remove Trump from office for a nit?
 
A few Democrats will not vote to impeach, and they will be primaried in November. You can’t be okay with Trump committing Constitutional crimes (and now, also, statutory crimes) and expect to remain a Democrat in Congress in 2021. Van Drew is switching parties. The guy in Minnesota has always been Republican-Lite. Who else? I think even Max Rose will vote for it. And he represents policemen and firemen who overwhelmingly live on Staten Island.
How TOTALITARIAN OF YOU.............If any of yours refuse to toe the line.......you will take out your own........

We already knew that about you and your party. You WILL OBEY..........The motto of the Dem party???
Correct. If you don’t want to abide by the rules and the principles of the Shriners, don’t become a Shriner. If you don’t believe in the policies and values of the Freedom Caucus, don’t join the Freedom Caucus.

Why should the Democratic Party be different?
Went right over your head didn't it. Conservatives don't always agree, and when we don't agree we don't don't March Lock step with our party. Our decisions are based on the issue at hand, and we call out our own party when we don't agree. We also REFUSE to toe the party line.

Your side says...........YOU WILL OBEY........You don't have the right to vote against us.........OR ELSE.........

The left wing has taken over your party..............We can deal and negotiate with moderates.......We WILL NEVER NEGOTIATE with the Far Left and their twisted ideas.

Your party needs to go back to JFK principles.......which are more moderate........so compromise can again occur in this country.

One last thing...........we have been trying to take out the establishment on both sides........How is it good for our country when we continue to elect politicians who enrich themselves for their money donors and forget about the people. This is EVIDENT from both sides.........Plenty to choose from on that from both sides.
 
The Week started out with 10 Democrats signing an official letter and sending it to Pelosi that she drop impeachment, and instead settle for a Censure of The President.

Then things got heated for numerous Democrats when they went home, with their phone lines being blown up, offices inundated with letters, and being shouted down in public all threats from their constituents to vote them out of office if they vote to impeach The President over a 3 year long nothing burger and witch hunt.

Then we hear another 5-7 Dems are strictly opposed to impeachment, and will vote no on top of the previous 10 mentioned.

And Now not 1 but 2 Democrats are leaving The Democrat Party over Impeachement.

So far we have about 20 Democrats giving the Middle Finger to Pelosi and more than Half The Country doing the same.

And More, MORE pain and suffering for The Democrat Party is on the horizon, as Trump is kicking ass with trade deals and his popularity is surging as people grow hostile towards impeachment and Pelosi's Propaganda.

Democrat Congressman Leaving Party Over Impeachment, Becoming Republican

Trump supporter grabs spotlight at Sanders event with a message for the president

State Senator Quits PA’s Democratic Party

Black Senator from Deep South Leaves Democratic Party to Become a Republican
From your first link, Mr. Tree: "New Jersey Democratic Congressman Jeff Van Drew, who has strongly opposed the Democrats’ impeachment efforts, is leaving the Democratic Party and becoming a member of the Republican Party after meeting with President Donald Trump."​

I'd just like to give a warm welcome to Jeff Van Drew for his courage of leaving the liars behind. The article said 20 others are contemplating leaving the Democrat's little hatefest. They're good Americans for seeing that lying is a bad idea in American politics. For a while, I thought none of them would see the light, but there are 20 good people in the Democrat Party after all. For all their majority, these few are the ones most like my parents where all were welcome in each others' homes, regardless of political party, and people voted their conscience. I am truly happy to see there are good people walking away from the insane phony impeachment. And I also wondered how people could stand all Pelosi's threats to defund them if they didn't lockstep their vote her way, regardless of what they thought was right.
By my count there are so far 20 Democrats who are breaking rank with Pelosi's Personal Partisan Impeachment.
Well, not every Democrat has to worry that they don't get a handout from Soros through Pelosi. I can't think of a meaner Cruella than Nancy Pelosi, even at Christmas. It's really kinda pathetic when you think about it...

Bloomberg just donated $10m to help House democrats. They will need all the help they can get.
 
A few Democrats will not vote to impeach, and they will be primaried in November. You can’t be okay with Trump committing Constitutional crimes (and now, also, statutory crimes) and expect to remain a Democrat in Congress in 2021. Van Drew is switching parties. The guy in Minnesota has always been Republican-Lite. Who else? I think even Max Rose will vote for it. And he represents policemen and firemen who overwhelmingly live on Staten Island.
How TOTALITARIAN OF YOU.............If any of yours refuse to toe the line.......you will take out your own........

We already knew that about you and your party. You WILL OBEY..........The motto of the Dem party???
Correct. If you don’t want to abide by the rules and the principles of the Shriners, don’t become a Shriner. If you don’t believe in the policies and values of the Freedom Caucus, don’t join the Freedom Caucus.

Why should the Democratic Party be different?

Because the "Party" will lose the House.

You just have to understand the spin.

It's not about some moderate saying they are putting "country over party." Give me a fucking break.
They aren't elected to serve the country they are elected to represent their voters. That's their only
duty.

Yes the dems can primary a moderate in a Trump district and beat him/her. But, the person that wins
that primary will be mauled in the General Election. Thus, they still lose the seat.

The Dems are up against this.

One thing that we will discover tomorrow is that it will be bipartisan against impeaching the President.
That will resonate across the entire country.
If they lose the House they do so while retaining their principles.

Democrats have integrity. They’re not Republicans.

Riddle me this:
1. Who paid Russians for "dirt" on a political opponent?
2. Who used the Federal agencies to illegally spy on an opponent's campaign?
3. Who used the IRS to target political opponent's donors?
4. Who broke House rules to illegally impeach a president they can't beat at the ballot box?
5. Who used the intel agencies as an "insurance policy" to disrupt a president's admin?

If democrats even speak the word "integrity" their tongues would turn to fire. <g>
 
Spare me...........the so called PATRIOTS.........LOL

The Executive Branch is a equal branch of government and has powers just as Congress has powers. Congress DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to force the Executive Branch to not use it's powers. And the proper course of action is to go to the Judiciary...........which the Executive already has done. And guess what...........Congress LOST..........

Congress MUST go to the Courts to FORCE the Executive to comply with their demands. YOU LOSE. That count of IMPEACHMENT is a JOKE.

Abuse of Power.............The President has every right to ask for assistance from Ukraine in Corruption when we are handing them over Public Funds..........He has every right to ask for investigations into 2016 Election tampering. Which is TAMPERING by the DNC..........which your side refuses to look into .............because that side of the equation SUCKS FOR YOU.

It is clear..........DNC used Ukraine for dirt on the Trump Campaign during the election. Getting Black Book information from FOREIGN OFFICIALS for the PURPOSE of using it AGAINST A POLITICAL FOE......Proven in the Ukraine Courts who admitted it. Proven by records of the DNC going to the Ukraine Embassy to get it.

Finally, for 3 years your side has attacked Trump. He has every right to DEFEND HIMSELF.........and looking into the CORRUPTION of the DEMS is part of that right..........

Your side DEMANDS HE BEND OVER and allow you to Fuck him.......and cry when he fights back. Too bad............He has every right to do so........and every right to go after the sorry SOB's attacking him. Suck it up Dems............You LOST THE ELECTION........and your COUP HAS FAILED.
 
Why should the Democratic Party be different?

Why? You ask

Well IMHO it is because America is not a political party. Political parties hate national cohesion and Unity

So therefore when a political party represents a deceitful agenda, like the Dem's Impeachment hoax is, then it is incumbent upon Congressmembers to do the moral and ethical thing ---just like these 20 Dems are doing.
Your lame talking points are lame.

This is a well-deserved impeachment. Trump is a lifelong criminal.
The Dem party is now a party of criminals.............Whose ABUSE OF POWER is EPIC.

Many of your side deserves to be in Prison...........some may end up going there.......doubt the big dogs will get tried........but they deserve to be.

You can play this we are SAINTS to Hell freezes over. That dog doesn't hunt...........The American people see this for what it really is now. They are sick of it. And your side will pay for it in the next election. The Dem party needs to RESTORE INTEGRITY to it's party.............and stop this abuse of power...........or BE CRUSHED because the people are sick of your shit.
 
Impeachment is going to make Donald Trump more Popular. The Democrats have watered down Impeachment, even making it a farce. Worse, they have wasted so much time and resources making this their top issue. They are going to have nothing to show for it.
 
The Lost Art of Due Diligence | The American Spectator | Politics Is Too Important To Be Taken Seriously.

The SEC’s action against Ponta Negra is not the newsworthy event. It is the fund’s curious relationship with Paradigm Global Advisors, LLC. A fund of hedge funds, Paradigm is owned and managed by James and Hunter Biden, brother and son of Vice President Joe Biden.

The SEC has not alleged any wrongdoing by Paradigm, but as a fund of hedge funds, the firm’s forte is purportedly to be the wizards of due diligence. On this task, they have seemingly come up short. Ponta Negra and Paradigm occupied the same floor in a Manhattan office building, used the same marketing agent, and shared the same telephone number. Paradigm officials have explained that this curious set of coincidences was a result of Ponta Negra having leased office space and facilities from Paradigm.
 
Biden is DIRTY...........

Riddle me this.............Shall we EXPOSE HIS DIRTY ASS NOW........or use it to IMPEACH HIS ASS......if he somehow .......LOL........wins in 2020.....

One issue with it..................their is evidence out there on him...............worthy of Impeachment..........perhaps he will chose Hillary as VP..........LOL.......and after he's impeached for being corrupt as hell......we get another Corrupt as Hell Dem as a replacement.

Not that this will happen. Because the Dems are going to get their asses handed to them in 2020
 
Bloomberg just donated $10m to help House democrats. They will need all the help they can get.

Bloomberg will finance his own campaign, too, and so all the money that would normally go to promote the Dem candidate for president can go to Senate and House candidates. For that reason -- and his direct contributions to general party funds -- Bloomberg is my prediction to end up the candidate. Him or Hillary. True, I'm a bad predictor: I supposed Hillary would win last time, because everybody said she would. But the money thing about Bloomberg is big.
 
Bloomberg just donated $10m to help House democrats. They will need all the help they can get.

Bloomberg will finance his own campaign, too, and so all the money that would normally go to promote the Dem candidate for president can go to Senate and House candidates. For that reason -- and his direct contributions to general party funds -- Bloomberg is my prediction to end up the candidate. Him or Hillary. True, I'm a bad predictor: I supposed Hillary would win last time, because everybody said she would. But the money thing about Bloomberg is big.

Of all the democrat candidates Bloomberg would make the best president, but he's old and rich, and democrat voters hate old, rich, Jewish white guys.
I like business guys who know how to run large business enterprises for president, not senators who have never even run a lemonade stand. Trump for all his personal flaws has a good grip on the business aspects of the US economy. If you've never seen Trump's holdings, please glance thru these and know that he has a grip on the business models and personnel in all of them:
The Trump Organization - Wikipedia

Maybe Elon Musk or Marc Cuban would take a shot at politics some day?
 
Spare me...........the so called PATRIOTS.........LOL

The Executive Branch is a equal branch of government and has powers just as Congress has powers. Congress DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to force the Executive Branch to not use it's powers. And the proper course of action is to go to the Judiciary...........which the Executive already has done. And guess what...........Congress LOST..........

Congress MUST go to the Courts to FORCE the Executive to comply with their demands. YOU LOSE. That count of IMPEACHMENT is a JOKE.

Abuse of Power.............The President has every right to ask for assistance from Ukraine in Corruption when we are handing them over Public Funds..........He has every right to ask for investigations into 2016 Election tampering. Which is TAMPERING by the DNC..........which your side refuses to look into .............because that side of the equation SUCKS FOR YOU.

It is clear..........DNC used Ukraine for dirt on the Trump Campaign during the election. Getting Black Book information from FOREIGN OFFICIALS for the PURPOSE of using it AGAINST A POLITICAL FOE......Proven in the Ukraine Courts who admitted it. Proven by records of the DNC going to the Ukraine Embassy to get it.

Finally, for 3 years your side has attacked Trump. He has every right to DEFEND HIMSELF.........and looking into the CORRUPTION of the DEMS is part of that right..........

Your side DEMANDS HE BEND OVER and allow you to Fuck him.......and cry when he fights back. Too bad............He has every right to do so........and every right to go after the sorry SOB's attacking him. Suck it up Dems............You LOST THE ELECTION........and your COUP HAS FAILED.
Thank you and well said.

It really ticks me off when these people try to wrap themselves in "patriotism" and then proceed to shit all over The Constitution, Due Process, Executive Privilege, Right to Privacy, Separation of Powers and on and on and on.


If you have to break the law, and break the rules to take down your opponent, then you are NO PATRIOT, you are an Insurgent and usurper of the law.
 
Bloomberg just donated $10m to help House democrats. They will need all the help they can get.

Bloomberg will finance his own campaign, too, and so all the money that would normally go to promote the Dem candidate for president can go to Senate and House candidates. For that reason -- and his direct contributions to general party funds -- Bloomberg is my prediction to end up the candidate. Him or Hillary. True, I'm a bad predictor: I supposed Hillary would win last time, because everybody said she would. But the money thing about Bloomberg is big.

Of all the democrat candidates Bloomberg would make the best president, but he's old and rich, and democrat voters hate old, rich, Jewish white guys.
I like business guys who know how to run large business enterprises for president, not senators who have never even run a lemonade stand. Trump for all his personal flaws has a good grip on the business aspects of the US economy. If you've never seen Trump's holdings, please glance thru these and know that he has a grip on the business models and personnel in all of them:
The Trump Organization - Wikipedia

Maybe Elon Musk or Marc Cuban would take a shot at politics some day?
I get my lefty Billionaires mixed up. Its Bloomberg that wants to Ban Guns, and it's Steyer that wants to Ban Coal?

Of the two, I think Steyer is a whole lot more scarier to our Democratic Republic than Bloomberg, but Bloomberg is still a Socialist.
 

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