Turtlesoup
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Idiot, people go to protest their corrupt representatives. This is what we are supposed to do.
Democrat Managers are destroying their entire case.
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Lesh
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What was that MAGA mob going to do? How could they stop anything? Standing outside the Capitol peacefully was not going to stop Congress from certifying that election and stopping that certification was the goal.
"Stop the Steal"
Trump SENT his people to STOP THE STEAL. The only way they could do that was to attack that building and physically prevent the counting from happening
Now you can lie and claim that Trump just wanted his mob to demonstrate peacefully outside the Capitol. But there's a problem. That would have stopped nothing. Trump knew that. The mob knew that
You can lie and claim that Trump was blameless. He didn't incite that mob. But that has a problem too. Were it true, when the mob DID turn violent, if Trump wasn't promoting that...inciting that, an innocent man would have tweeted for it to stop. Would have condemned the violence. Did Trump do that?
He did not. In fact he did the opposite. He tweeted out a video of his speech inciting this attack
He tweeted out attacks on Mike Pence.
He called Tommy Tubberville to request that he delay the count with objections (to give the mob time to get to the Chambers?)
It wasn't until hours later that he tweeted out anything that could be considered a "stand down" request.
Why? Because that attack was JUST what Trump wanted.
Crimes of commission and omission. Impeachment AND criminal trial and totally warranted
"Stop the Steal"
Trump SENT his people to STOP THE STEAL. The only way they could do that was to attack that building and physically prevent the counting from happening
Now you can lie and claim that Trump just wanted his mob to demonstrate peacefully outside the Capitol. But there's a problem. That would have stopped nothing. Trump knew that. The mob knew that
You can lie and claim that Trump was blameless. He didn't incite that mob. But that has a problem too. Were it true, when the mob DID turn violent, if Trump wasn't promoting that...inciting that, an innocent man would have tweeted for it to stop. Would have condemned the violence. Did Trump do that?
He did not. In fact he did the opposite. He tweeted out a video of his speech inciting this attack
He tweeted out attacks on Mike Pence.
He called Tommy Tubberville to request that he delay the count with objections (to give the mob time to get to the Chambers?)
It wasn't until hours later that he tweeted out anything that could be considered a "stand down" request.
Why? Because that attack was JUST what Trump wanted.
Crimes of commission and omission. Impeachment AND criminal trial and totally warranted
DukeU
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Again, recall that the majority vote is that the trial is constitutional. For additional evidence of illiteracy: See the failure at, "Dick and Jane!" Dick AND Jane are independent persons. Removal from office AND disqualification from further federal office are independent trial outcome penalties.
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No one denies that the march to the Capitol Grounds was intended to be peaceful and patriotic. That is normal. There was no call for the protestors to immediately commence shooting at one another(?)! Recall the First Amendment protests, however, over the summer. In Santa Monica, the police were guarding the First Amendment. The looters were apparently monitoring the police activity--pulled up to the pricey stores, and in their BMW's: And loaded up!
There was advance "Regalia," in evidence: In the summer looting.
So the Capitol Marching was directly ordered and incited. Many in fact inferred "Marching Orders!" They were then "Ordered" to scream like hell was getting set loose--many seem to have inferred. See below how others interpret the matter.
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Then-President Donald Trump addressed an enormous crowd in front of the White House on Jan. 6. "We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore,” he loudly declared to the thousands of people gathered.
He added: “After this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. … We’re going to walk down to the Capitol … because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength. … We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue … and we're going to the Capitol.”
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The "Peaceful and Patriotic" includes, clearly the March. No one had been asked to commence the riot at the Ellipse, or start the shooting--of one another--during the March. The March of a Cadre was directly ordered, "WE'RE" going, and The Trumped-Up failure was to be a part of the Cadre. Then the Cadre was incited, ". . . .because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show STRENGTH, , ," and not just showing up in Sunday-go-to-meeting attire! These were a cadre, riot-ready at the Ellipse--visible.
After the screaming and yelling, the "Marching Orders" intended action to take back the country. Step one could be inferred the capture or isolation of the Legislative Branch.
"Take back our country" is directly quoted!
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!'
(See people prayer for a world in which Lives Don't Matter: Matt 25: 14-30!)
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No one denies that the march to the Capitol Grounds was intended to be peaceful and patriotic. That is normal. There was no call for the protestors to immediately commence shooting at one another(?)! Recall the First Amendment protests, however, over the summer. In Santa Monica, the police were guarding the First Amendment. The looters were apparently monitoring the police activity--pulled up to the pricey stores, and in their BMW's: And loaded up!
There was advance "Regalia," in evidence: In the summer looting.
So the Capitol Marching was directly ordered and incited. Many in fact inferred "Marching Orders!" They were then "Ordered" to scream like hell was getting set loose--many seem to have inferred. See below how others interpret the matter.
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Then-President Donald Trump addressed an enormous crowd in front of the White House on Jan. 6. "We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore,” he loudly declared to the thousands of people gathered.
He added: “After this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. … We’re going to walk down to the Capitol … because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength. … We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue … and we're going to the Capitol.”
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The "Peaceful and Patriotic" includes, clearly the March. No one had been asked to commence the riot at the Ellipse, or start the shooting--of one another--during the March. The March of a Cadre was directly ordered, "WE'RE" going, and The Trumped-Up failure was to be a part of the Cadre. Then the Cadre was incited, ". . . .because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show STRENGTH, , ," and not just showing up in Sunday-go-to-meeting attire! These were a cadre, riot-ready at the Ellipse--visible.
After the screaming and yelling, the "Marching Orders" intended action to take back the country. Step one could be inferred the capture or isolation of the Legislative Branch.
"Take back our country" is directly quoted!
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!'
(See people prayer for a world in which Lives Don't Matter: Matt 25: 14-30!)
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BluesLegend
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Those cops don't count cuz Nazi Pelousy didn't get scared while they were injured.
Dems injured 2,000 cops while attacking law enforcement and defunding them. This kangaroo impeachment is utterly ridiculous given the Dem's behavior this past year, it's a joke.
He was talking about the Republicans had no backbone . Which many don't.
It's been a complaint for many years by republican voters.
He was talking about the republician primary and Mitt Romney when he said we need to fight like hell to win back the House & Senate .
Very deceitful to drop the full context of that incident.
It's been a complaint for many years by republican voters.
He was talking about the republician primary and Mitt Romney when he said we need to fight like hell to win back the House & Senate .
Very deceitful to drop the full context of that incident.
This is what you leftist do.
You totally ignored the over 250 "Peaceful Protests" last year that were happening daily and focus on a false-flag operation carried out on Jan 6th by many of the same people....and then accuse people who weren't even within a thousand miles of Washington of the same thing.
You also claim that the phrase "Fight Like Hell" is now illegal even though the people making this claim used the exact phrase on numerous occasions.
That's the problem with you folks.
You aren't being honest to us or yourselves.
It's why so many of you are on ignore at USMB.
You're all dishonest lying *****.
They weren't my or anyone's protests....other than George Floyd protests.... No one in the Party called for the protests to happen.
The stop the steal or whatever it was called protest, was preprogrammed for January 20 or 21st, Trump had that changed to a January 6th protest, and promoted the rally and protest and march. He paid for ads promoting it, he advertised it at every rally, he tweeted about Jan 6th about 50 times in the previous two weeks, 17 times t h e day before the event....
It was going to be WILD according to Trump....
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There is absolutely NO COMPARISON with Trump and his protest turned to mayhem, and any Democratic Congress critter during the George Floyd protests.... No one was out there rioting for a candidate, or to overturn an election through a coup.
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BluesLegend
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They weren't my or anyone's protests....other than George Floyd protests.... No one in the Party called for the protests to happen.
The stop the steal or whatever it was called protest, was preprogrammed for Jan u art 20 or 21st, Trump had that changed to a January 6th protest, and promoted the rally and protest March. He paid for ads promoting it, he advertised it at every rally, he tweeted about Jan 6th about 50 times in the previous two weeks, 17 times t h e day before the event....
It was going to be WILD according to Trump....
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There is absolutely NO COMPARISON with Trump and his protest t u need to mayhem, and any Democratic Congress critter during the George Floyd protests.... No one was out there rioting for a candidate, or to overturn an election through a coup.
Lib please Dem leaders cheered and incited these Dem protests over several months.
Nostra
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Jan 6. A vote was delayed for a few hours.They weren't my or anyone's protests....other than George Floyd protests.... No one in the Party called for the protests to happen.
The stop the steal or whatever it was called protest, was preprogrammed for Jan u art 20 or 21st, Trump had that changed to a January 6th protest, and promoted the rally and protest March. He paid for ads promoting it, he advertised it at every rally, he tweeted about Jan 6th about 50 times in the previous two weeks, 17 times t h e day before the event....
It was going to be WILD according to Trump....
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There is absolutely NO COMPARISON with Trump and his protest t u need to mayhem, and any Democratic Congress critter during the George Floyd protests.... No one was out there rioting for a candidate, or to overturn an election through a coup.
9 months of dimwinger riots resulted in more deaths, more injuries, tens of thousands of businesses destroyed, rioting, looting, murder, rape.............but you leftists want to make all that into "peaceful protests".
You are a clown.
bripat9643
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If you NAZIs are so confident that it was legitimate, then why are you so afraid to have any Trump supporter talk about it?They're told it's fraud, they want to believe it, they will believe it.
You wouldn't have the first clue what that video shows if the voice over wasn't lying to you about what was happening. That particular piece of video was actually used as evidence by the Trump lawyers. A Georgia state official went onto the stand and gave testimony as to what was REALLY happening, and the case was dismissed completely.
Surveillance tape breeds false fraud claims in Georgia
Surveillance footage of ballot processing on election night in Atlanta is fueling a false social media narrative of “suitcases filled with ballots” hidden under a cloth-covered table and tallied without supervision, even as top state officials confirm election workers followed standard procedure.apnews.com
Video Doesn't Show Election Fraud in Georgia - FactCheck.org
Conspiracy theorists falsely claimed that a video of an election worker during the Georgia machine recount revealed fraud in the 2020 election. All it showed was an election worker performing a routine part of the process, according to election officials.www.factcheck.org
They are just gone.
bripat9643
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so criticizing Democrat NAZIs is treason? Trump told no lies, and turds like you are not appointed to be the arbiters of who is telling the truth.The insurrection was based on totally fabricated lies.Cheered on by Presidents, thanked by Presidents, fomented by Presidents over four years?The fact is:
You sure you want to compare death tolls and riot numbers?
You bet.
Trump did no such thing.
But we do have video after video of your leftist idols doing so.
The insurrection began long before Jan 6, when Trump kept repeating the Grand Lie, that the election was stolen.
The President of the United states can not spread serious lies about election fraud that never happened.
Trump supporters are dumb fuckin retards and they believe any lie Trump tells them. Trump pumped up his supporters for months with lies and it finally boiled over with all the wacko, insane, idiot Trump supporters.
Trump is 100% guilty of inciting an insurrection by telling his supporters lies for months, and he must be held accountable.
bripat9643
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Utter horseshit.
It's hysterical watching you NAZI morons trying to defend this impeachment.
So, what was the purpose of changing the rally date from January 20th to January 6th, and changing the permit request for the Ellipse to the Ellipse down to the Capitol?
What steal could be stopped by just yelling outside of the Capitol, and at a distance? How was that fighting like hell to keep the evil dems and RINOs from taking their country away?
How was that fighting for anything?
How were they suppose to stop congress from certifying the votes from a distance and by just shouting???
How is shouting behind a barrier, at a distance WILD?
bripat9643
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Is there any point to your moron questions?
Lesh
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They are not moronic. They get to the CRUX of the issue. Trump sent those rioters to the Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power.
To "stop the steal".
They had ZERO means to do that other than by using physical violence. That violence was the INTENDED result
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