Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

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Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.
 

Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.
Yep, you are altering your nations values, violating your Bill of Rights perhaps to appease extremists.

If a bunch of hillbillies from Alabama moved into town and demanded a ban of such flags would it be accepted?

Now, perhaps they have a case because it is public land, but when will they demand citizens can't fly it from their backyards or have such a sticker on their vehicle?
 
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Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.
Your citation says five flags are allowed. Do you know which those are? FWIW, I believe the POW-MIA flag should be allowed as one.
 
100% disagree. They could legitimately ban all outside flags but they are allowing flags that represents "the international character" of the citizens. Those are not official city or state flags.

I hope there is an appeal.
 

Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.


:popcorn:
 
100% disagree. They could legitimately ban all outside flags but they are allowing flags that represents "the international character" of the citizens. Those are not official city or state flags.

I hope there is an appeal.


Thats a very soft answer. If this had been a community in Texas, this would be an outrage moment. Why so soft on this?
 
Thats a very soft answer. If this had been a community in Texas, this would be an outrage moment. Why so soft on this?

My answer is very much that same as I always address this issue.

If you want to rant and stomp your feet have at it.

For those always complaining about their rights being violated this is a proper example. To me something like this is the proper reason to remove a politician. He admits it violates the 1st Amendment but he will support it anyway. That is unacceptable for a politician. It reminds me when Bush acknowledged that McCain/Feingold was unconstitutional but he would sign it anyway.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo Bans Sale of Confederate Flags, Despite Knowing This Has First Amendment Problems

Dang, they came so close.

The motion allows for the flying of five different flags on public property: the U.S. flag, the Michigan flag, the Hamtramck flag, the Prisoner of War flag and a unique flag representing the nations from which many Hamtramck citizens hail from.

The first three are not controversial. The forth isn't a real stretch but the fifth? That is a personal flag representing a specific group of people.

I wouldn't have a problem in banning all flags outside of the first three. To allow a flag to represent a certain group of people, it's wrong to ban a flag representing another group of people.

That's fine but the truth here is that the all flags were banned, not simply one.

And really, it's Utah. I doubt it was even an issue.
 
100% disagree. They could legitimately ban all outside flags but they are allowing flags that represents "the international character" of the citizens. Those are not official city or state flags.

I hope there is an appeal.
Do certain cities have their own flag? Do all fifty states have their own flag? I've been all about country music since my first day on this planet, but I have never once owned a flag that represents country music. At the end of the day, are certain groups of people really in that bad enough need of a flag?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
My answer is very much that same as I always address this issue.

If you want to rant and stomp your feet have at it.
Yeah, you've always had a problem with the constitution or don't you remember--The first amendment is not absolute---SCOTUS AND Joe Biden.
 

Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.
It will get reversed on appeal.
 

Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage


Just wait until all of the gays and transsexuals in Michigan and NYC elect a bunch of muzzies to run their cities then the muzzies ban, outlaw and arrest all of the gays and transsexuals.

I think in Islam, being gay, etc., isn't that a capital crime?
 
My answer is very much that same as I always address this issue.

If you want to rant and stomp your feet have at it.
Hmm, alright, I get it. My apologies. I can admit, while ive seen you be pretty left wing, I have seen you be more fair than most other leftys here.....

...but I got my eyes on you!!



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Lol he's left but hides behind libertarian or some nonsense

I'll take libertarian. I'll even take a middle of the road democrat. I have no problem with a democrat who isnt a radical. I even think some of their ideas are good, I just dont like the way they want to go about them. Its the reason I like bill maher. He may be a lefty but hes not a radical lefty and hes not afraid to buck his own party.

Republicans could stand to be a bit more self reflecting sometimes.
 
I'll take libertarian. I'll even take a middle of the road democrat. I have no problem with a democrat who isnt a radical. I even think some of their ideas are good, I just dont like the way they want to go about them. Its the reason I like bill maher. He may be a lefty but hes not a radical lefty and hes not afraid to buck his own party.

Republicans could stand to be a bit more self reflecting sometimes.

I claim no party allegiance and I won't pretend to be something I'm not.

Fiscal conservative, pro life, supports the 2nd and the constitution.
 

Democrat judge in America's 'Muslim capital' BANS gay pride flags after Islamic outrage

14 Sep 2025 ~~ By Eliot Force


A federal judge has upheld a ban on gay pride flags after a years-long battle by an all-Muslim city council to remove the rainbow because it did not reflect their community's values.
The court found that Hamtramck, an enclave surrounded by Detroit with a significant Muslim immigrant population, did not violate the US Constitution when it banned the flag from public buildings in 2023.
After a pride flag was flown in the city during Pride Month in 2021 and 2022, the city council said it clashed with the beliefs of some residents, so they voted to allow only five flags to be flown on publicly-owned property.
US District Judge David Lawson, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, dismissed a lawsuit that was brought against the city for its flag restrictions, saying the ban was okay because the policy targeted all private flags.
'Hamtramck's refusal to display the Gay Pride flag did not violate the Constitution,' the judge said.
Hamtramck has a population of around 27,000, and more than 40% of its residents are immigrants. A large proportion of them are Muslim with Yemeni or Bangladeshi descent.
~Snip~
Opponents of the ban said it was a violation of free speech, but Lawson said publicly-owned property is not a free speech zone or public forum and that the government is allowed to impose restrictions on it.
'It's BS to say that you can't fly a certain flag. But I guess it's only on government buildings, so it guess that kind of makes sense,' said local venue owner Scott Curnow.
From a legal standpoint, flag restrictions must be neutral, so the ban included all religious, ethnic, racial, political and other related flags.
~Snip~
When the flag ban was proposed in 2023, the city council voted unanimously in its favor.
After the ban was put in place, Hamtramck Mayor Amer Ghalib, who is a Yemeni Muslim, said: 'We're not targeting anybody.
'We are trying to close the door for other groups that could be extremist or racist.'
Ghalib was nominated to be the US ambassador to Kuwait by President Donald Trump.
Recently there has been a rise in thefts and destruction of pride flags in Hamtramck.
Ripping the flags down, stealing and destroying them are crimes, and Hamtramck police are investigating to find those responsible.


Commentary:
I'm guessing the "international character" is represented by a Somalian flag or a Palestinian flag or something like that. I'd say that's no better than the rainbow. I'd stick with US, State, and City.
Hmm...., The left and suicidal empathy.
Wait until the purple-haired nose-ringed fuglies in Hamtramck find out they need to buy burqas.
Government buildings should only be flying the US flag, State flag, and Local government flag if there is one.
Yet, now a Clinton appointed Judge say's the LGBTQ flag has been banned along with the Confederate Flag.
Ultimately, it is tyranny that "Woke" Marxist Leftists seek. And Islamo-fascism is what they’ll find.
Scimitar versus the rainbow colored panties.
My money's on the scimitar!
 
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