Democrat Desperation On School Reform

[AZrailwhale]

Using tax money to fund religious schools IS establishing a religion.

Example

Texas plan to put chaplains in public schools is latest move to inject Christianity

What critics see as an assault on the separation of church and state, supporters argue is a step forward for religious liberty after a major Supreme Court...

www.dallasnews.com

This is establishing a religion.

Not as long as the money isn't provided to the schools of one religion and not others.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not as long as the money isn't provided to the schools of one religion and not others.

... and as long as churches with tax-supported schools are not tax exempt.

 

[Dadoalex]

Not as long as the money isn't provided to the schools of one religion and not others.

Is that what the Constitution says?

Or does it say the government can't be used to force religion down anyone's throat?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

AZrailwhale and Dadoalex both would benefit with a reread of the Constitution.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Is that what the Constitution says?

Or does it say the government can't be used to force religion down anyone's throat?

The first amendment reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
What that clearly says is that the federal government can't establish a state religion. It can't suppress religion. It doesn't say anything about the government being restricted from supporting ALL religions which it does now my making them tax-exempt. Education vouchers that allow a taxpayer's money to go to any school, religious or secular ISN'T supporting any particular religion. So it isn't violating the 1st Amendment's actual language or intent.

 

[Dadoalex]

The first amendment reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
What that clearly says is that the federal government can't establish a state religion. It can't suppress religion. It doesn't say anything about the government being restricted from supporting ALL religions which it does now my making them tax-exempt. Education vouchers that allow a taxpayer's money to go to any school, religious or secular ISN'T supporting any particular religion. So it isn't violating the 1st Amendment's actual language or intent.

ANY religious school receiving government funding violates both the intent and word of the First.

 

[AZrailwhale]

ANY religious school receiving government funding violates both the intent and word of the First.

That's clearly NOT what the 1st Amendment says.

 

[Dadoalex]

That's clearly NOT what the 1st Amendment says.

I see.

Another tiny minded ape boy with word problems

 

[AZrailwhale]

I see.

Another tiny minded ape boy with word problems

I can read plain English, it’s unfortunate that you can’t.

 

[Dadoalex]

I can read plain English, it’s unfortunate that you can’t.

Perhaps then, if you can read actual words, do so and act slightly less stupid.

 

[Frankenstein]

The Public Schools would do fine is the Rich MAGAts would not vote to allow the tax dollars to be paid to the Rich Bitch private schools.

You did read where they aren't good enough for his own kids, maybe he should put his kids in the public schools as an example

 

[Jarlaxle]

You want to send your kids to a private school? Fine
You want the government to pay? Sorry, we don't do Communism.

Was that an echo or a stutter?

No I don't you fcking idiot. WE pay for our children to attend private school.

You can't possibly be this fcking stupid.... well maybe

He's not stupid. He is dishonest.

Ok, enough. "Public school" is NOT synonymous with "democrat party."

Yes, it is.

YOU are entitled to send your kids to public school. Your taxes pay for it.
YOU have the right to choose a private school.
YOU do not have the right to use public tax dollars to pay for it.

Look, everyone understands: you want quality education limited to the rich and well-connected.

 

[Jarlaxle]

... and as long as churches with tax-supported schools are not tax exempt.

Non-profits are generally tax exempt. That would be the obvious workaround.

You did read where they aren't good enough for his own kids, maybe he should put his kids in the public schools as an example

Never. Not coincidentally, the vast majority of Chicago public school teachers send their children to private schools.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Was that an echo or a stutter?



He's not stupid. He is dishonest.



Yes, it is.



Look, everyone understands: you want quality education limited to the rich and well-connected.

He doesn’t want to admit that the tax dollars funding public schools don’t belong to the government. They belong to the taxpayers. Parents shouldn’t have to pay twice for their kis’s education, once to a public school that they don’t attend and again to the private school they do attend. The tax funds provided to educate each child should follow the child, not be locked in an underperforming public school.

 

[Jarlaxle]

He doesn’t want to admit that the tax dollars funding public schools don’t belong to the government. They belong to the taxpayers. Parents shouldn’t have to pay twice for their kis’s education, once to a public school that they don’t attend and again to the private school they do attend. The tax funds provided to educate each child should follow the child, not be locked in an underperforming public school.

He wants all children indoctrinated by the State. Anything that threatens this he opposes.

 

[Dadoalex]

Was that an echo or a stutter?



He's not stupid. He is dishonest.



Yes, it is.



Look, everyone understands: you want quality education limited to the rich and well-connected.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

MAGAT talking to the mirror again.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Jarlaxle]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

MAGAT talking to the mirror again.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

You seem to be hallucinating.

Stop mixing crack and bath salts with cheap booze.

 

[Dadoalex]

You seem to be hallucinating.

Stop mixing crack and bath salts with cheap booze.

I don't do cheap booze.

But you just keep on with your delusions.

 

[struth]

Do you not know what school choice is? It usually involves using tax dollars to send children that private schools choose to accept to those private schools at the expense of public school funding and all the children who those private schools don't accept.

yes it invokes helping kids that get accepted subsided scholarships to those better schools

your point?

 

[AZrailwhale]

No.... because studies on places this has been tried recorded very mixed results ranging from worsening grades to slight improvements.

Do school vouchers work? Here’s what research really says.

Complaining about race cards and crt is some white snowflake shit.

Who made you speaker for all black people?

You should be in favor of vouchers since a large percentage of black kids are stuck in underperforming public schools and their parents often can’t afford the better education offered by private schools.