Democrat behavior at State of the Union

[toobfreak]

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union.

Sure you do. The one truth that really matters.

Introducing, the President of the USA!



USA! USA! USA!



FOUR MORE YEARS!



That is the truth. America is sound. Americans are good. And Trump will be reelected in the fall.

 

[EvMetro]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

 

[Lysistrata]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

 

[EvMetro]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Lysistrata]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

 

[22lcidw]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

Prog agendas tempered are not bad. But over the decades you have driven people crazy. The weak and the deformed seem to be in control instead of being part of inclusive living. Anyone following traditional ways of living while not in a privileged position and is of the working class is a sucker. For he/she pays the freight while getting little in return.

 

[Lysistrata]

...I might watch it tonight for entertainment value...

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

Prog agendas tempered are not bad. But over the decades you have driven people crazy. The weak and the deformed seem to be in control instead of being part of inclusive living. Anyone following traditional ways of living while not in a privileged position and is of the working class is a sucker. For he/she pays the freight while getting little in return.

I don't know whom you perceive as the weak and deformed who supposedly are in charge. But man, I have paid a huge amount of taxes in a career spanning over 40 years, 35 of which were with the same company. I don't mind paying to help those who are in need, for providing food, educating children, for making sure that people have access to health care and childcare. It's the constant waste over the decades of money for wars, ever more fantastic weapons, lunatic adventures like "abstinence education," corporate bailouts, etc. I worked for a few years near the Pentagon in an office complex by the runway at National Airport that housed such entities as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and restaurants that never listed the prices on their menus. Total expense-account-ville.

The poor are not to blame for this. They are the ones who cleaned the office toilets and vacuumed up, carrying vacuums on their backs. I remember one guy from Central America who was a head shorter than me, going floor-to-floor with that damned vacuum on his back. His lot was much rougher than anything that you or I have ever faced. I'd rather pay to feed a person who is grateful for a plate of rice and beans than one who thinks that he is entitled to a $40 steak.

 

[IM2]

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Right wingers always have the easy simple solution to all our problems, but if things were so simple the problem would not exist. And you have correctly stated, that is what the right needs to learn.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Right wingers always have the easy simple solution to all our problems, but if things were so simple the problem would not exist. And you have correctly stated, that is what the right needs to learn.

Now the racist is a sociologist.

Please show me the outrage over the current budget deficit by the left.

You can't, because it does not exist.

It hasn't existed since the left took over in 2006. And the right has done no better.

GWB was a fool. But the 2006 house/senate helped him spend away.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

Prog agendas tempered are not bad. But over the decades you have driven people crazy. The weak and the deformed seem to be in control instead of being part of inclusive living. Anyone following traditional ways of living while not in a privileged position and is of the working class is a sucker. For he/she pays the freight while getting little in return.

I don't know whom you perceive as the weak and deformed who supposedly are in charge. But man, I have paid a huge amount of taxes in a career spanning over 40 years, 35 of which were with the same company. I don't mind paying to help those who are in need, for providing food, educating children, for making sure that people have access to health care and childcare. It's the constant waste over the decades of money for wars, ever more fantastic weapons, lunatic adventures like "abstinence education," corporate bailouts, etc. I worked for a few years near the Pentagon in an office complex by the runway at National Airport that housed such entities as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and restaurants that never listed the prices on their menus. Total expense-account-ville.

The poor are not to blame for this. They are the ones who cleaned the office toilets and vacuumed up, carrying vacuums on their backs. I remember one guy from Central America who was a head shorter than me, going floor-to-floor with that damned vacuum on his back. His lot was much rougher than anything that you or I have ever faced. I'd rather pay to feed a person who is grateful for a plate of rice and beans than one who thinks that he is entitled to a $40 steak.

Have you looked at income mobility for the poor ?

We don't discuss it (and apparently you don't read about it) as a society.

 

[Lysistrata]

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Right wingers always have the easy simple solution to all our problems, but if things were so simple the problem would not exist. And you have correctly stated, that is what the right needs to learn.

Now the racist is a sociologist.

Please show me the outrage over the current budget deficit by the left.

You can't, because it does not exist.

It hasn't existed since the left took over in 2006. And the right has done no better.

GWB was a fool. But the 2006 house/senate helped him spend away.

All the while, the right-wingers have kept cutting revenue. They have been witlessly doing that for decades.

 

[IM2]

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Right wingers always have the easy simple solution to all our problems, but if things were so simple the problem would not exist. And you have correctly stated, that is what the right needs to learn.

Now the racist is a sociologist.

Please show me the outrage over the current budget deficit by the left.

You can't, because it does not exist.

It hasn't existed since the left took over in 2006. And the right has done no better.

GWB was a fool. But the 2006 house/senate helped him spend away.

I am no racist but I do have a degree in that subject. And 32 years of work and research.

We would have a deficit no matter what because of the way our system has operated.

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

So until people like you wise up we will continue running deficits.

 

[EvMetro]

This says a whole lot more than you might realize. One should not be watching the SOTU for entertainment value, he should be watching it to be well informed. In our current political climate, we simply cannot know the truth about what is really going on, so we are stuck triangulating the "most likely" truth from a broad range of news, propaganda, and biased reporting. None of the news, biased reporting, or propaganda is trustworthy, regardless of which side of the aisle it represents, and all we can do is sort through all of it to find clues about what the truth might be. Live coverage where we can hear what the president himself is saying is FAR better than hearing the what the media says he said. I didn't like Bush or Obama, but I sure watched as much as I could of everything they said. If you think the SOTU is just entertainment, go ahead and sit it out. Remember that self imposed ignorance is much worse than just being ignorant.

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Your post is heavily laced with subjective ideas that have been engineered by the MSM. I consume a very broad range of media from fringe right to fringe left, so I can spot where your perception of the political landscape comes from. You are processing the world through a lefty lens. You cannot objectively evaluate the political landscape as long as you are searching for confirmation of your bias.

 

[IM2]

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Your post is heavily laced with subjective ideas that have been engineered by the MSM. I consume a very broad range of media from fringe right to fringe left, so I can spot where your perception of the political landscape comes from. You are processing the world through a lefty lens. You cannot objectively evaluate the political landscape as long as you are searching for confirmation of your bias.

No you can't. Lys is correct about the right. I live in a conservative state and what they call solutions only prolong the problems because they are incapable of looking into or for the root causes.

 

[Lysistrata]

You aren’t going to get “the truth” from the State of the Union. It is a mix, but mostly it is political and a chance for the president to lay out what he thinks are his accomplishments.

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Your post is heavily laced with subjective ideas that have been engineered by the MSM. I consume a very broad range of media from fringe right to fringe left, so I can spot where your perception of the political landscape comes from. You are processing the world through a lefty lens. You cannot objectively evaluate the political landscape as long as you are searching for confirmation of your bias.

Who watches MSM? You don't know me and yet you presume to know how I think and what I listen to. I process the world with an attention to facts and logic. At least take a course in torts, which teaches the concepts of foreseeability and causation. I've noticed that right-wingers seem to view everything in isolation instead of placing it in the broader context.

 

[Lysistrata]

The the best we can hope for is to triangulate the "most likely" truth from a broad range of media and propaganda. We should not trust or believe any one of them, but we should watch, read, or listen to them all.

I watched most of it. It contained nothing but a sanitized and exaggerated version of the scumbag's stump speech and lowering the standards for the Medal of Freedom by awarding it to a gutter-class shock jock whose "tireless devotion to his country consisted entirely of insulting his fellow Americans at every opportunity. Your president lies through his teeth constantly, so his words are meaningless.

It was entertaining as theater, complete with bobble-headed jack-in-the-boxes jumping up and down. You were the one who wanted everybody else to jump up and down with them. I'm curious to see what the BBC has to say about it. This could be amusing.

You watched with subjective agenda, and you found what you were looking for. If you had been objectively looking for pieces of the puzzle that make up the truth, you would have seen more than what confirms your bias. If you want to be well informed, put down the lefty lens and start looking at the bigger picture.

I have looked at "the bigger picture." The guy's an uncontrollable authoritarian bullshit artist who panders to backwards cults. Looking at "the bigger picture" requires looking at the specifics of an issue, something that the right-wingers do nothing to present. Just one example: "get a job." Okay, let's look at the availability of jobs, the skill sets involved, the availability of housing and transportation within reasonable commuting distances, whether the pay offered provides a reasonable standard of living for the worker and family, childcare options, etc. The devil is in the details, as they say.

Whatever the issue, the right-wingers need to start looking at the details, which they refuse to do.

Your post is heavily laced with subjective ideas that have been engineered by the MSM. I consume a very broad range of media from fringe right to fringe left, so I can spot where your perception of the political landscape comes from. You are processing the world through a lefty lens. You cannot objectively evaluate the political landscape as long as you are searching for confirmation of your bias.

No you can't. Lys is correct about the right. I live in a conservative state and what they call solutions only prolong the problems because they are incapable of looking into or for the root causes.

Right-wingers appear to believe in a certified Harry Potter magic-wand department. Just wave a wand and the problem goes away: whoosh! What they actually succeed in doing is kicking the can in somebody else's direction and then pretend that they have solved an intractable problem. You and I who have been through the whole routine of analysis, fact-checking, sources, and footnotes know that this does not work. One must consider the root causes and follow the stream of cause and effect.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is from last SOTU. This time it wasn't important enough for her to go.

 

[Oldstyle]

There has been along history of the opposing party refusing to stand or applaud at the SOTU. Both parties have done that. The GOP drastically lowered the bar for SOTU behavior by shouting at the president during his speech. I hope the Democratic party doesn't follow that bad behavior, but with the way Trump has turned politics into a childish playground competition, there is certainly precedent if they do behave like Trump supporters.

I clearly remember the democrats actually booing, especially Hillery Clinton. Now there's a woman with a lot of class. Class of the democratic variety, just like mud wrestling.

What do you expect after trump lowered the bar to childhood bully standards, and then told such a blatantly obvious lie at the SOTU

The Prog Representatives are the biggest babies ever. The women are the worse. With their stupid same color dresses to the vacant and crazy looks on their faces. Making a statement is fine. But it is like a record with a scratch that plays the same thing over and over. They are just that good. And they don't leave. Its perma rep. A lifetime job that was only supposed to be a decade or so at most.

If Trump wants more approval from the other side of the isle, he should quit being such a childish ass hole.

LOL...in case you haven't noticed, Bulldog...Trump not only doesn't care about "approval" from the left...he seems to relish their hatred! You just tried to impeach him and he came out of it with his highest approval ratings since he became President! Maybe Nancy Pelosi would be better served ripping up the Democratic "game plan" in this coming election instead of Trump's speech? They're in a world of hurt right now.

 

[Lysistrata]

This is from last SOTU. This time it wasn't important enough for her to go.

No. It wasn't important enough. We got the same shit from the orange whore that we were treated to last year, with the added touch of the Medal of Freedom awarded to scum from out national gutter, with the tighty-whitey bobbleheads jumping up to applaud. She was right to stay home. Why dignify this shit?

I always have been a soft-spoken person who dressed in office-dress of navy suits and little gold pins. But I have never before seen the type of filth that has been on display since the orange whore has been in power. They have to be taken by the balls firmly since they know nothing of civilized behavior. We have been taken over by a bunch of barroom scum. I never thought that we would ever see this day, in which I could ever think of spitting in someone's face, but it is here.