the other mike
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We had no business interfering in 2014.
That's what I know.
And this shit would have been solved peacefully if Trump were still president.
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That's what I know.
And this shit would have been solved peacefully if Trump were still president.
Russia ramped up their intelligence and efforts to undermine confidence in US elections in 2014.
Obama team was warned in 2014 about Russian interference
In 2014, the administration got a report of Russia’s intention to disrupt Western democracies, including the United States.
www.politico.com
Putin played Trump because he thinks Trump is stupid and needy.
the other mike
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Compared to Biden?
How needy do you have to be to take a $ million payoff from the mayor of Moscow like Hunter did?
Certainly Putin was unaware of that little transaction.
You're a moron. Hunter didn't get a million dollar pay off .
Putin said he got tired of explaining things to Trump over and over again.
the other mike
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I stand corrected it was Hunter Biden's company that received $3.5 million.
Ringo
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Most of these "russians" are recently acquired citizenship residents of former soviet republics. Let the cowards leave. You just can't imagine how many ukrainians have escaped from their mobilization, including those who fled to Russia.
Are you trying to justify Putin's invasion of Ukraine?
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Russia Begins Mobilizing Ukrainians to Fight Against Their Own Country
Panic and fear flooded the occupied territories as Russian forces rounded up men to fight and forced residents to vote in a staged referendum on joining Russia, Ukrainian officials and rights groups said.The New York Times, September 25, 2022
KYIV, Ukraine — In the occupied city of Kherson, some Ukrainian men believe that if they break their own arms, maybe the Russians will not force them into military service. Others are hiding in basements. Some are trying to run even though they are forbidden to leave the city, residents said, and virtually everyone is afraid.
“People are panicking,” said Katerina, 30. “First they were searching our houses, and now the Russians will conscript our men to their army. This is all unlawful but very real for us.”
As the Kremlin’s conscription drive faced protests across Russia for a fifth day, new signs of resistance, and fear, emerged on Sunday in the territories it occupies in Ukraine as well.
The drive to compel Ukrainians to battle other Ukrainians is part of a broader, if risky, effort by Moscow to mobilize hundreds of thousands of new fighters as its forces suffer huge casualties and struggle to hold off Ukrainian advances in the east and south.
Russia Begins Mobilizing Ukrainians to Fight Against Their Own Country
Panic and fear flooded the occupied territories as Russian forces rounded up men to fight and forced residents to vote in a staged referendum on joining Russia, Ukrainian officials and rights groups said.
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What Putin thought would be an easy one or two week conquest is turning into an increasingly costly mistake. Conscripting those who hate their conscriptors has has never been a wise decision. Those conscripted are likely to use their weapons and military training against those who conscript them.
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Yes they banned pro-Russian opposition parties. Did you actually think they would let terrorists live among them.
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Failed attempt to "justify" his totalitarian bullshit.
the other mike
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NATO doesn't give a shit about the Russian people the Ukrainians or us for that matter.
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I pay attention to what both sides are saying, you only pay attention to propaganda from one side.
You are clearly not qualified to make such a statement.
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It was preparing to attack Crimea.
That is like blaming Israel for the six day war. As if Egypt was blameless.
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That's because your mind as been pickled in CFR war propaganda. You need to resolve this conflict by calling me a troll, freak, "Russian bot/Russian sympathizer," etc., or look deeper into this issue. Just be lazy and dismiss these facts!
Cognitive dissonance - Wikipedia
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Quote where he did. . . .
And Putin is right.
the other mike
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That's funny.Russia ramped up their intelligence and efforts to undermine confidence in US elections in 2014.
Obama team was warned in 2014 about Russian interference
In 2014, the administration got a report of Russia’s intention to disrupt Western democracies, including the United States.
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