Dem senator is going to El Salvador, uninvited, to lobby for release of MS-13 gang member

[Wobbly]

ILLEGAL aliens belong on the other side of the border.

And, I agree with the Constitution that says it has to be done legally. You disagree, which is a valid, albeit fascist position. My point is that you cannot take your position and also claim to be a patriotic American. You prefer trump over the Constitutional principles America is supposed to stand for.

 

[Wobbly]

Incorrect. These leftist partisan judges support a cause, not the law. THEY are the traitors, as are you.

The Constitution says "all persons" are entitled to "due process." I and the judges agree with the Constitution, you agree with trump. So, I am a traitor to trump, while you are loyal to him and a traitor to the Constitution.

 

[Wobbly]

Couple of facts that MAGAts are probably unaware of:

1. You cannot prove that "illegals" have a net negative impact on the economy. In fact, most economists agree their economic impact is positive. Your fear of them is irrational.

2. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. It says our treaties are also supreme. One of our treaties says that those seeking asylum are entitled to a hearing on the merits of their claims. Our obligations under the relevant treaty can be found here under "Rights and Responsibilities of Parties":

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you claim to be an American patriot, you might want to see how many parts of this treaty trump is routinely violating, a treaty the US Constitution says is the Supreme Law of the Land. MAGAts squealing, "But I'm afraid of them!" is not listed as a reason to ignore any of these rights and obligations.

 

[DonGlock26]

And, I agree with the Constitution that says it has to be done legally. You disagree, which is a valid, albeit fascist position. My point is that you cannot take your position and also claim to be a patriotic American. You prefer trump over the Constitutional principles America is supposed to stand for.

Which section of the Constitution are you referring to?

 

[Wobbly]

Which section of the Constitution are you referring to?

Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

And, Article VI, Clause 2

Article VI, Clause 2:


This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

 

[DonGlock26]

Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

And, Article VI, Clause 2

Article VI, Clause 2:


This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The illegal alien had his day in court. The judicial branch said he could stay temporarily. The executive branch sent him home anyway. Democrat cities are refusing to detain and hold illegals for the Federal gov't. Are the Democrats following due process with their sanctuary cities?

Was FDR a fascist to you?

 

[Wobbly]

The illegal alien had his day in court. The judicial branch said he could stay temporarily. The executive branch sent him home anyway.

Exactly, trump wiped his ass with the Constitution and Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances and the authority vested in the Judicial Branch.

Democrat cities are refusing to detain and hold illegals for the Federal gov't. Are the Democrats following due process with their sanctuary cities?

Not that whataboutisms are anything other than a sign of weakness, but yes. Remember when conservatives were supposed to be in favor of states' rights? It was back before the Cult of il Douche.

Was FDR a fascist to you?

If you are referring to his internment of the Japanese, it was certainly immoral, but the Constitution makes allowances for presidential wartime powers. It's an interesting document. You should read it sometime. At least that way, you'd know why you hate America and the rule of law, preferring goose stepping to the whims of der Furor, instead.

 

[DonGlock26]

Exactly, trump wiped his ass with the Constitution and Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances and the authority vested in the Judicial Branch.

Not that whataboutisms are anything other than a sign of weakness, but yes. Remember when conservatives were supposed to be in favor of states' rights? It was back before the Cult of il Douche.

If you are referring to his internment of the Japanese, it was certainly immoral, but the Constitution makes allowances for presidential wartime powers. It's an interesting document. You should read it sometime. At least that way, you'd know why you hate America and the rule of law, preferring goose stepping to the whims of der Furor, instead.

Like Biden did with the student loans after the SCOTUS ruling?

Biden’s Student Loan Boast: The Supreme Court ‘Didn’t Stop Me’​

The President ignores the law again as he forgives more student debt. The total is now $138 billion and counting.​

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/joe-biden-student-debt-forgiveness-supreme-court-0c5204fe

Where does the Constitution say that Americans can be imprisoned because of their race, if the president is a Democrat?

 

[Wobbly]

Speaking of surrendering, I see trump is setting the scene for surrender in Ukraine. Dipping a toe to see how popular his version of the truth will be with Americans at a time, when he doesn't need to make himself more unpopular still. If he or whoever talks to him last were smart, he would strike a deal where Europe pays a little more and we pay a little less and diplomatic face saving and boast about how he won. So far, we have been spared the dangers of a dictator-wannabe doing anything right, as part of his political master plan of Smash and Grab.

In trump's defense, it might not be that he is just stupid. Looks a lot to me like kleptocrats musk and putin and who knows own that bag of slime. Who else has trump ever stood by for more than a minute in the face such unpopularity? We know there is nothing trump loves more than popularity. Throwing red meat at crowds of rubes hungry for some scapegoat on the spit. Principles? Insert joke here. No, the only thing that could overcome trump's love of "rating." Fear. If only we had some way to evaluate trump's attitude toward those who rule by fear.

 

[Rigby5]

The entire Defense Department budget is $849 billion for 2025. They will spend over $7 billion.

Explain how $849 billion is 70% of %7 trillion Rigby5

Your first mistake is including things in the budget that do not belong, like Social Security, past debt interest, etc., that are mandatory and not discretionary.
The actual discretionary federal budget is only $1.15 trillion.

Your second mistake is forgetting that the hundreds of billions we give to Israel, the Ukraine, VA, GIBill, Bukele's prisons, etc., also are all actually military spending.

Here is a better starting place.

Starting with 54%, you have to add another 6% for veteran's benefits, and a couple % for education spending that is actually military. Then once you add in bribes for generals to conduct coups and other aggression projects like funding fake terrorists like ISIS, it ends up being closer to 70%.

 

[Rigby5]

Like Biden did with the student loans after the SCOTUS ruling?




Where does the Constitution say that Americans can be imprisoned because of their race, if the president is a Democrat?


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If you look at the actual legislation for Pell Grants and student loans, it allows for executive discretion to forgive loans. The intent was extreme hardship cases. But technically Biden's student loan forgiveness was not illegal. And in fact it was likely a good idea since it stimulated both education and the economy at the same time.

And I agree it was illegal to intern the Japanese.
But we did apologize and pay some compensation.
{...
The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (Pub. L. 100–383, title I, August 10, 1988, 102 Stat. 904, 50a U.S.C. § 1989b et seq.) is a United States federal law that granted reparations to Japanese Americans who had been wrongly interned by the United States government during World War II and to "discourage the occurrence of similar injustices and violations of civil liberties in the future". The act was sponsored by California Democratic congressman and former internee Norman Mineta in the House and Hawaii Democratic Senator Spark Matsunaga in the Senate.
The bill was supported by the majority of Democrats in Congress, while the majority of Republicans voted against it. The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.

The act granted each surviving internee $20,000 in compensation, equivalent to $44,000 in 2023, with payments beginning in 1990. The legislation stated that government actions had been based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership" as opposed to legitimate security reasons.
...}
Civil Liberties Act of 1988 - Wikipedia

 

[Wobbly]

Like Biden did with the student loans after the SCOTUS ruling?

Not a good sign, when your whataboutisms become more desperate. Worse is when it is an opinion from the WSJ

Where does the Constitution say that Americans can be imprisoned because of their race, if the president is a Democrat?

You haven't shown any gratitude for the lessons I've already provided. Misrepresenting, clumsily, what I or the Constitution say adds insult to injury. I gave you a very good hint as to where you could have googled "presidential wartime powers" to learn about presidential wartime powers. If you wanted me to do your work again, you should have been more polite.

 

[DonGlock26]

Not a good sign, when your whataboutisms become more desperate. Worse is when it is an opinion from the WSJ

You haven't shown any gratitude for the lessons I've already provided. Misrepresenting, clumsily, what I or the Constitution say adds insult to injury. I gave you a very good hint as to where you could have googled "presidential wartime powers" to learn about presidential wartime powers. If you wanted me to do your work again, you should have been more polite.

I see that you've stopped answering.

 

[jc456]

Can other people see them, or just you? Did you post them, but they're invisible?

I shared them, take a look

 

[jc456]

Not a good sign, when your whataboutisms become more desperate. Worse is when it is an opinion from the WSJ

You haven't shown any gratitude for the lessons I've already provided. Misrepresenting, clumsily, what I or the Constitution say adds insult to injury. I gave you a very good hint as to where you could have googled "presidential wartime powers" to learn about presidential wartime powers. If you wanted me to do your work again, you should have been more polite.

Wannabe stupid

Ah, "no criminal record," but "officers said his hoodie was INDICATIVE of "Hispanic gang culture." Bit of a ways from "two judges declared him a gangster," but good enough for a conviction under trump and fuck-the-Constitution.

blah blah blah

 

[DonGlock26]

If you look at the actual legislation for Pell Grants and student loans, it allows for executive discretion to forgive loans. The intent was extreme hardship cases. But technically Biden's student loan forgiveness was not illegal. And in fact it was likely a good idea since it stimulated both education and the economy at the same time.

And I agree it was illegal to intern the Japanese.
But we did apologize and pay some compensation.
{...
The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (Pub. L. 100–383, title I, August 10, 1988, 102 Stat. 904, 50a U.S.C. § 1989b et seq.) is a United States federal law that granted reparations to Japanese Americans who had been wrongly interned by the United States government during World War II and to "discourage the occurrence of similar injustices and violations of civil liberties in the future". The act was sponsored by California Democratic congressman and former internee Norman Mineta in the House and Hawaii Democratic Senator Spark Matsunaga in the Senate.
The bill was supported by the majority of Democrats in Congress, while the majority of Republicans voted against it. The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.

The act granted each surviving internee $20,000 in compensation, equivalent to $44,000 in 2023, with payments beginning in 1990. The legislation stated that government actions had been based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership" as opposed to legitimate security reasons.
...}
Civil Liberties Act of 1988 - Wikipedia

So, Biden ignored the Supreme Court and twisted the law. I guess we can say the illegal alien never left the Americas.

Apologize?

Well, the Trump admin said they made a mistake. So, the illegal alien gangbanger can feel better at home.

 

[Wobbly]

I shared them, take a look

Ah, your support for your assertion is hidden somewhere on this thread. Wait, is there a code in the wording of what appears at first to be simply a weak dodge?

 

[Wobbly]

Wannabe stupid

blah blah blah

I yield to your forensic mastery.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

1) You'll have rotting crops. Again

2) You'll lose your services.

3) You'll have to obey the WTO, which you're currently kneecapping.

4) Happy to help, I know these things are hard for MAGAts.

1) Only illegals know how to farm?
2) Only illegals clean toilets and landscape?
3) Why would we give a fuck about the WTO?
4) You’re a racist and a retard.

 

[jc456]

Ah, your support for your assertion is hidden somewhere on this thread. Wait, is there a code in the wording of what appears at first to be simply a weak dodge?

Yep, do some research