Defunding Police

The movement to defund should be to DEMOCRATIZE districts where residents SHARE responsibility
for law enforcement, so like college campus towns, they can hire their own police, along with teachers, doctors and legal defense.
That will do the most to solve these problems of disparity and discrimination:
by teaching ALL people to depend on themselves for self-govt instead of
giving too much authority to govt and then complaining when it gets abused!

I urge communities to look at the success of campus police
that can solve problems of profiling by residents knowing each other.
This becomes a similar issue of defunding public schools and going with private charter.

We can actually have a mix of both, according to what each district enacts
democratically to represent the residents, including hiring their own
teachers, police and doctors, similar to university campus towns.
www.campusplan.org
www.medcoops.info
www.paceuniversal.com

Why not give communities tax breaks at 100% to invest in their own
medical and security programs so more people are equally empowered
to govern themselves: www.ethics-commission.net
www.earnedamnesty.org
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Cities are far different entities than college campuses. Also, if something isn't broke, don't fix it. Just because Floyd apparently had a heart attack doesn't mean the system is broken.
 
I think that defunding or abolishing police departments is a stupid idea.

A better one would be to hold police to the same accountability that we hold the military to. If you are kicked out of the military for disciplinary reasons, you are never allowed to be part of the military again. If an officer is fired for disciplinary reasons, the same should hold true, they can never work as a police officer ever again.

But, unfortunately, that is a pipe dream, because the police union (a powerful political force) won't let it happen.
 
You people are such GD loons. Nobody is gonna "disband" the cops. REFORMS are all anyone is asking for. The last couple of decades have been a horrible failure. Lack of training, low pay, allowing assholes like Chauvin who had 17 complaints and investigations to stay, police unions ... I could go on and on.
"Lack of training" in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, and Democrat governors, and you guys point fingers at the opposing party and Trump?

Your OP is dishonest - Sorry, but nobody is buying it who isn't in the tank for tRump.
When you can't face the on-the-ground consequences of the warped ideology that you guys have been begging for, ie looting, socialism, anarchy, complete abandonment of law and order, you divert to "your OP is blah blah blah..." Would you like some cheese with your whine?
 
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All their criminal conspiracies against Trump have not worked, so they are using the acts of a bad cop in Democrat run city, in a Democrat run state with a Democrat governor as a last ditch ploy to motivate the base, and as a counter to the fact that Donald Trump has done far more for Black Americans than any Democrat president, including the disastrous 8 years of Hussein Obama. Their internal polls are showing even more Blacks will be voting for Trump.

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the fact that Donald Trump has done far more for Black Americans than any Democrat president, including the disastrous 8 years of Hussein Obama. "


nuts
bullshit
insane
deranged
NO TRUTH this this whatsoever!

only a deranged lunatic would say things like this


or.....HUMAN GARBAGE
Human garbage are people like AOC, Pelosi, Schiff, Hillary, and radical Leftist terrorist groups like BLM, Antifa, and Nation of Islam and their likes. Trump has acheived lowest Black unemployment, crime, and record entrepreneurship and independent businesses. He has achieved similar numbers for women and minorities. Under Obama we had record crime, record high unemployment, and record high food stamps, he was a one-man government dependent making machine.
 
Make no mistake about what we are witnessing. Leftists in America, from mayors to governors, to media, to movie stars, have gone completely unhinged, proving once again that there is no limit to the lunacy that these people will engage in. The latest crazieness is the call to defund police departments (at a time when they need to be strengthened), as well as to abolish the police entirely.

Don't think that just because this is totally absurd and insane, that it can't happen. It already has happened. In some cities, efforts to turn that notion into action are already underway, with Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announcing on Wednesday that he would be making cuts of up to $150 million to the police budget, and reinvesting those funds in black communities. Not only a crazy and dangerous move, but a racist one, as well.

Several members of the Minneapolis City Council this week have expressed support for radical changes to how the city handles law enforcement, including a move to "dismantle" the police department and replace it with "a transformative new model for public safety." Steve Fletcher, a member of the Minneapolis City Council, condemned Bob Kroll of the police union in a long thread, in which he said the city should "declare policing as we know it a thing of the past."

Jeremiah Ellison, son of the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, tweeted "We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, and when we’re done, we’re not simply gonna glue it back together. We are going to dramatically rethink how we approach public safety and emergency response. It’s really past due."

All this is giving new meaning to the age old term, YOUNG AND STUPID.



Defunding and dismantling police is yet another brilliant leftist idea that's gonna resolve all the problems. It worked in UK, perfectly...

 
Half of what police departments do is to generate revenue. America would be a better place without useless fines and probation for victimless crimes.

Correct. Police and courts realized that the best way to make you stop speeding, or respecting the city codes, is to hit you where it hurt most.

Your wallet, or jail time.

If they could trust your idiotic judgement, we wouldn't even need a police.
 
Half of what police departments do is to generate revenue. America would be a better place without useless fines and probation for victimless crimes.
So you are for abolishing the police ? :laugh:

Even Geraldo Rivera doesn't support this madness.


"Even Geraldo Rivera"

"even"

Although I give Geraldo a pass, it's bugging me that you used "even"... like Geraldo is a measure of sanity, or beacon that we all should follow.

Would you care if I say... even Steve Buscemi would agree with you?
 
They say it's white supremos doing all the rioting and stuff, and we all know how the democrats hate them. So why is hollywood bailing them out?

But of course... isn't that usual excuse for every problem created by the left?

They realized that calling everyone racists isn't working, since all of them are racists anyways. They had to go further this time, therefore "white supremacists". Only, they're in for rude awakening, since white supremacists originated in Democrat party whose ideology they're following.
 
Make no mistake about what we are witnessing. Leftists in America, from mayors to governors, to media, to movie stars, have gone completely unhinged, proving once again that there is no limit to the lunacy that these people will engage in. The latest crazieness is the call to defund police departments (at a time when they need to be strengthened), as well as to abolish the police entirely.

Don't think that just because this is totally absurd and insane, that it can't happen. It already has happened. In some cities, efforts to turn that notion into action are already underway, with Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announcing on Wednesday that he would be making cuts of up to $150 million to the police budget, and reinvesting those funds in black communities. Not only a crazy and dangerous move, but a racist one, as well.

Several members of the Minneapolis City Council this week have expressed support for radical changes to how the city handles law enforcement, including a move to "dismantle" the police department and replace it with "a transformative new model for public safety." Steve Fletcher, a member of the Minneapolis City Council, condemned Bob Kroll of the police union in a long thread, in which he said the city should "declare policing as we know it a thing of the past."

Jeremiah Ellison, son of the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, tweeted "We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, and when we’re done, we’re not simply gonna glue it back together. We are going to dramatically rethink how we approach public safety and emergency response. It’s really past due."

All this is giving new meaning to the age old term, YOUNG AND STUPID.


Just don't forget when empowering the State, and granting special authorities to its minions; that every 4-8 years or so your opposition gets a shot at sitting in the big chair. So while busy tbemselves crafting a club to beat the plebes down with... Remember your gonna have to hand that baton over sooner or later.

The most dangerous thing to black community is the white leftist.

Reason for that is because white leftists are constantly preaching the message of "white privilege" and systematic racism, they're telling blacks that they're not responsible for their own actions, or for they own outcome. Essentially, they're telling blacks they have no power, and when you have no power over your outcome, you don't feel responsible for it.

The lack of responsibility, and power over outcome, makes blacks seek someone who who can make better outcome for them. Thinking they have no power, they willingly give it to leftists who will make excuse after excuse that blacks can't make it better for themselves, or on their won, and they will tell them that the only way to make it, and go forward is to keep voting for them.

It's been going like this since FDR and later with Johnson, and blacks have not moved from the starting point yet. They can't move an inch without Democrats letting them move so.

It took Trump two years to show blacks that is possible for them to restore some of their dignity, to rise above their Democrat established "normal", and to be much better on their own than on government tit, and that scares lefties to death. Those who leave plantation, never return, and they're leaving is great numbers.
 
Augustus ran the Roman Empire without a police department.

Correct. In fact, there was no organization called police anywhere in Europe before 17th century, and in US until 19th century.

In Rome, Augustus call them urban cohorts that had role similar to today's special police. He also had Praetorians guards who were like SWAT or secret service.
 
The movement to defund should be to DEMOCRATIZE districts where residents SHARE responsibility
for law enforcement, so like college campus towns, they can hire their own police, along with teachers, doctors and legal defense.
That will do the most to solve these problems of disparity and discrimination:
by teaching ALL people to depend on themselves for self-govt instead of
giving too much authority to govt and then complaining when it gets abused!

I urge communities to look at the success of campus police
that can solve problems of profiling by residents knowing each other.
This becomes a similar issue of defunding public schools and going with private charter.

We can actually have a mix of both, according to what each district enacts
democratically to represent the residents, including hiring their own
teachers, police and doctors, similar to university campus towns.
www.campusplan.org
www.medcoops.info
www.paceuniversal.com

Why not give communities tax breaks at 100% to invest in their own
medical and security programs so more people are equally empowered
to govern themselves: www.ethics-commission.net
www.earnedamnesty.org
www.isocracytx.net/hp-org/hpdmissn.gif

Cities are far different entities than college campuses. Also, if something isn't broke, don't fix it. Just because Floyd apparently had a heart attack doesn't mean the system is broken.
Dear quarantine
(A) I'm talking about self governing DISTRICTS
(1) City Council Districts (11 in Houston)
(2) County Districts or Precincts
(3) Party Precincts (2500-3000 per party per precinct)
Each of those UNITS can support its own
Medical Cooperative of 1500 members
per chapter getting the same group discount rates as larger groups
(With 10 Cooperative Clinics for 1500 members, 150K members = $5-10 Million
in capital spent on medical services,
so that is enough lobbying leverage for
representing your own interests and negotiations in public policy www.medcoops.info)

Sorry this wasn't clear quarantine
I live in Houston where the City has wasted billions of dollars not representing the Districts, so I have compiled solutions and models that can restructure our Districts and Precincts to be democratically self governed.

(B) NO, the problem isnt a broken system, but failure to teach, respect and enforce the laws we have already under Constitutional laws and ethics www.ethics-commission.net

I can list documented examples of govt abuse due to corporate interests buying out campaigns for office and bypassing checks, balances and limits on govt without equal access to legal defense to stop corporate and party abuses, such as:

(1) City, State, Federal and Nonprofit authorities abusing Taxpayer money to violate Federal HUD and Historic Preservation laws to seize and destroy two National Historic Landmarks of APV public housing and Freedmen's Town (including violating and censoring federal laws, subgrant funding contracts and plans to preserve the historic housing WWII military site as a sustainable community campus under a democratically elected residential council www.campusplan.org established by law under HOPE VI federal housing reform)

(2) City Govt getting sued and losing their lawsuit after passing red light camera laws found to violate Constitutional rights including due process. The City still owes taxpayers for debts, damages, costs and consequences never fully accounted for.

(3) Contested homeless ordinance banning, fining or jailing volunteers or nonprofit and church groups from their outreach to the homeless, in violation of First Amendment rights and freedoms.

(4) The poorly written HERO ordinance that was found in Court to have violated city procedures by denying a lawful petition by citizens who had to sue the City to enforce the process the citizens followed to block the ordinance. (Besides the City abusing and denying the legal process, the contents of the ordinance was also unconstitutional by establishing social beliefs and practices against beliefs of citizens, plus imposing unconstitutional fines and penalties that violated free speech by banning "asking questions" to LGBT persons in restrooms as harassment)

(5) also the "sanctuary" policies in the City of Houston and other Cities in Texas has been challenged as violating equal protections and right of security of citizens.

(6) other unchecked abuses of state and federal funding including post Harvey recovery funds, and now the waste of 17-60 million in funding for pandemic response.
 
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People with functioning brain cells see this as:

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I see ONE bad cop out of thousands of good cops. Was anyone expecting perfection ? This is earth, not heaven.

If you see a looter, you are racist. But if you see a doctor, an engineer, a philosopher, and a physicist, get off of drugs.

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Not this one....I'm all for privatizing the police, though.
That would make them beholden to a small group of business owners, or perhaps even just ONE person, rather than the general public. Bad idea.
I know that's the argument of the committed statist, but has little actual living proof to back it up.

What we have now is the police beholden to corrupt and incompetent political buffoons, who are now using them as tools of social justice and occasional punching bags when they need to virtue signal.

Private banks have their own security. I don't see a reason why towns or cities cannot have professional police force out of reach of politicians who used them as political tools and their voting block that they hold hostage thru benefits, tenures, fully funded pensions and controlled by unions.
 
Make no mistake about what we are witnessing. Leftists in America, from mayors to governors, to media, to movie stars, have gone completely unhinged, proving once again that there is no limit to the lunacy that these people will engage in. The latest crazieness is the call to defund police departments (at a time when they need to be strengthened), as well as to abolish the police entirely.

Don't think that just because this is totally absurd and insane, that it can't happen. It already has happened. In some cities, efforts to turn that notion into action are already underway, with Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announcing on Wednesday that he would be making cuts of up to $150 million to the police budget, and reinvesting those funds in black communities. Not only a crazy and dangerous move, but a racist one, as well.

Several members of the Minneapolis City Council this week have expressed support for radical changes to how the city handles law enforcement, including a move to "dismantle" the police department and replace it with "a transformative new model for public safety." Steve Fletcher, a member of the Minneapolis City Council, condemned Bob Kroll of the police union in a long thread, in which he said the city should "declare policing as we know it a thing of the past."

Jeremiah Ellison, son of the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, tweeted "We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, and when we’re done, we’re not simply gonna glue it back together. We are going to dramatically rethink how we approach public safety and emergency response. It’s really past due."

All this is giving new meaning to the age old term, YOUNG AND STUPID.


Just don't forget when empowering the State, and granting special authorities to its minions; that every 4-8 years or so your opposition gets a shot at sitting in the big chair. So while busy tbemselves crafting a club to beat the plebes down with... Remember your gonna have to hand that baton over sooner or later.
My thoughts exactly.

Get rid of the police, then cause enough strife among the population that they protest and/or revolt, then use the Insurrection Act to deploy regular military troops to quell the uprising.

Sounds like a Stalinst wet dream to me.

Wherever there is a crime, police is necessity.

I said earlier... Initially I thought that national guard or military should be brought in to help restoring order to cities.

Well, I used to agree with it, not anymore. Cities are ungovernable and unsalvageable. Let them defend themselves.
 
I know that's the argument of the committed statist, but has little actual living proof to back it up.

What we have now is the police beholden to corrupt and incompetent political buffoons, who are now using them as tools of social justice and occasional punching bags when they need to virtue signal.
The solution is the Insurrection Act and US troops to take over for the handcuffed police, and unused National Guard, not private ownership.
And you are still stright-up blind to the fact that this would be abused by the next Stalinist democrat that gets into office at the first opportunity.

It happens. Every. Fucking. Time.
 
Heard an ACLU commie traitor vermin explain exactly how 'defunding' supposed to work on TV while ago: They take tax money from cities police dept. budgets and pay 'activists' big slaries to do nothing, it's essentially just a methiod for laundering extortion money going to fake 'activists', and the so-called 'community based solutions' will be nothing but a front for street gangs collecting protection from businesses and homeowners. that's it, that's the whole gimmick.
 

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