Deflate-gate? Report: Patriots being investigated for using deflated footballs

[BluePhantom]

And isn't interesting that the Patriots picked up Browner

Well according to Belichick and Brady "if you aint cheating you aint trying" Browner fits in perfectly

 

[ChrisL]

Aaron Rodgers mentioned something about hating underinflated balls and prefers them OVER the recommended guidelines set.

Aaron Rodgers likes his footballs overinflated ProFootballTalk

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.

Simms pointed out that Rodgers is the exception.

“Everybody wants it smaller and soft, so they can dig their fingers into,” Simms said. “[Rodgers is] such a feel thrower. You can tell. The one touchdown he threw down the field to the tight end is such feel; then he flicks it. That shows you he just has great control of it, with his fingers and hand.”

On his weekly radio show with ESPN Milwaukee, Rodgers confirmed that he prefers the balls to be overinflated, and that he doesn’t think there should be a maximum air pressure.

“It’s not an advantage when you have a football that’s inflated more than average air pressure. We’re not kicking these footballs,” Rodgers said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com.

Look for more anecdotes to emerge regarding the things teams do to make the footballs the way their quarterbacks like them. While on one hand it takes some of the sting out of the possibility that the Patriots broke the rules, on the other hand it’s yet another case where, at a time when everyone may be getting away with it, the Patriots are the ones who got caught.

Well Kurt Warner, Mark Brunell, Jerry Rice, and Jerome Bettis have gone on TV today disagreeing with Rodgers. Just like the knives girl....I like mine a certain weight, other chefs like them at another weight. Rodgers like his over-inflated, Brady likes his under-inflated. What is important is that they are inflated within the rules of the game. Apparently, you struggle to grasp that. Do whatever a quarterback wants to the ball, but if it's illegal and they do it anyhow, it's cheating and only a total homer fan can argue otherwise.

Yeah well, again, you don't know any specifics, and the NFL has not made any official statements and has not concluded a proper investigation yet. So there.

 

[ChrisL]

And isn't interesting that the Patriots picked up Browner

Well according to Belichick and Brady "if you aint cheating you aint trying" Browner fits in perfectly

Ah-ha! Just like I thought, trying to speak as if you are all reasonable, but the REAL motive comes out. Just another loser hater.

 

[ChrisL]

And isn't interesting that the Patriots picked up Browner

Well according to Belichick and Brady "if you aint cheating you aint trying" Browner fits in perfectly

Well, you and your hater friends have fun with your hate. Just remember, the Patriots do not need to cheat to win games. They are one of the BEST teams in the NFL. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Nightie night now!

 

[TrinityPower]

No need to hate when you are a fan of the best team two years running

 

[HUGGY]

Now that this deception has made it to the national evening news it won't go away. It will be the hottest topic for the next ten days and flailed around during the Super Bowl Broadcast in front of one of the largest viewing audiences in history. This is a serious black eye for the Patriots and the NFL which has had a bad season for defending it's image already. There MUST be a serious punishment.

I can't wait for the Pats to make seafood out of the Seagulls, Huggy! This is going to FUN!

Now don't go off in a huff after the game.

Sorry you all, but the 6 touchdowns and one field goal, and all the missed opportunities by the Colts, and screw ups are NOT attributed to the Pats playing with deflated balls.

Well who knows? Lance Armstrong dominated his sport with defective balls too

Nope, the Colts did not play well. The Patriots played a great game. That's why they won. Three SBs and 5 AFC championships SINCE the "spy gate" controversy. Sorry boys, you are just wrong.

This rule violation has nothing to do with the Colt's performance. It is cheating by the Patriots to gain an unfair advantage. Pure and simple. No doubt there will be a rather big investigation to find out who(The entire Patriot team) knew what and when(the whole 2014 season).

They(The NFL) might end up fining every player and coach that had knowledge they were breaking the rules.

That's $25,000(the actual fine for tampering) times around 60 people. ORRRrr... about a million and a half bucks. AND possibly game suspensions and pay docking. This could easily reach into the multi millions of dollars. We are talking record penalties.

 

[TrinityPower]

And isn't interesting that the Patriots picked up Browner

Well according to Belichick and Brady "if you aint cheating you aint trying" Browner fits in perfectly

Well, you and your hater friends have fun with your hate. Just remember, the Patriots do not need to cheat to win games. They are one of the BEST teams in the NFL. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Nightie night now!

you are correct, they do not need to cheat but the fact is that they have 3 times now so that says something

 

[HUGGY]

Now that this deception has made it to the national evening news it won't go away. It will be the hottest topic for the next ten days and flailed around during the Super Bowl Broadcast in front of one of the largest viewing audiences in history. This is a serious black eye for the Patriots and the NFL which has had a bad season for defending it's image already. There MUST be a serious punishment.

That may not bode well for the Seahawks dude. Nothing brings a team together and gives them motivation like a scandal.

ORRrr...it could just cause chaos and back biting and back stabbing as the players and coaches are scurrying like cockroaches when the light is turned on.

 

[TrinityPower]

So just curious...was the cupcake reference directed toward me?

 

[HUGGY]

So just curious...was the cupcake reference directed toward me?

No.

 

[Oldstyle]

Do you remember hearing about the Dolphin game where a Jets coach intentionally tripped our player? Is this what you want to see happening in all the games? A damn free for all? Because the allowing of intentional infractions leads to episodes such as that and bounties being put on players, etc. when penalties for such are not severe.
Personally, I would think playoff games should come with even steeper punishment, if cheating is determined.

I was responding to the 911 nutter, and he has already stated that in the Rams go outside the rules of the NFL to move to LA, that it is okay with him.

Cheating is relative.

The moment you quailfy cheating is when the integrity of the sport diminishes.

So all "cheating" destroys the "integrity" of the sport? That includes defensive backs getting away with a hold...or an offensive player getting away with a push-off to catch a winning touchdown...pick plays of course should have offensive coordinators banned for life? Kickers shouldn't be able to use different balls than everyone else...

Please explain to me why a "rub" play has more "integrity" than playing with a softer football?

You cant compare a heat of the moment hold to a planned and calculated attempt to cheat.
They're not even close to the same thing.

A rub play is pretty intentional, it is planned and not a heat of the moment.

Also if you hold, do you tell the ref that you held, so, he can penalize the team. Integrity of the game and all.

Sounds like baseball more than football.

So you're a Dolphins fan who can't stand the fact that the Patriots OWN your asses year in and year out...so you're here whining about balls that the officials handled on every damn play of the first half and didn't notice a problem...while you ignore the fact that the Patriots steamrollered the Colts in the second half...AFTER the balls had been re-inflated? You're not worried about the integrity of the game...you just don't like the Patriots!

 

[TrinityPower]

It didn't hurt their cause either.Why did they spy on other teams before when they claimed t be so superior?

Are you asking a question to someone in particular or just making stupid random comments?

Sorry it was suppose to be in response to a different comment

 

[TrinityPower]

I think I smell a Patriot fan in here

Damn Trinity....nice icon. You remind me of my second wife.

I hope that is a good thing and if so congrats!

 

[Oldstyle]

Do you remember hearing about the Dolphin game where a Jets coach intentionally tripped our player? Is this what you want to see happening in all the games? A damn free for all? Because the allowing of intentional infractions leads to episodes such as that and bounties being put on players, etc. when penalties for such are not severe.
Personally, I would think playoff games should come with even steeper punishment, if cheating is determined.

So all "cheating" destroys the "integrity" of the sport? That includes defensive backs getting away with a hold...or an offensive player getting away with a push-off to catch a winning touchdown...pick plays of course should have offensive coordinators banned for life? Kickers shouldn't be able to use different balls than everyone else...

Please explain to me why a "rub" play has more "integrity" than playing with a softer football?

You cant compare a heat of the moment hold to a planned and calculated attempt to cheat.
They're not even close to the same thing.

A rub play is pretty intentional, it is planned and not a heat of the moment.

Also if you hold, do you tell the ref that you held, so, he can penalize the team. Integrity of the game and all.

Sounds like baseball more than football.

You said earlier

And just because someone hasn't gotten caught makes it ok, in your eyes. Just wow! Remind me to never play cards with you.
Integrity you lack, along with all the others saying, no big
deal.

So if you hold, do you go to the ref and have them penalize you for holding? You are cheating, and you said not getting caught doesn't make it okay.

I'm trying to define where the line is?

A rub is a very intentional play, yet if it is not called no one says a word.

Deflated ball, the refs are supposed to check them before the game, they handled the balls, they said nothing. Now, after the game it is a problem. Now that there is a problem, what is the solution? What is the penalty?

Before you can claim any of your free for all why are some forms of cheating allowed and others not?

From what I understand the refs check the balls two and a half hours before the game and give them right back to the team.
So finding the time to let some air out of em wouldnt be a problem in the least.
For all we know they deflated the balls halfway through the first quarter and no one noticed till the interception.
See thats the thing about known cheaters,they dont get the benefit of the doubt.

The balls remain under lock and key until about 5 minutes before game time when they are given to the ballboy on the sidelines. So in the middle of a nationally televised playoff game with dozens of televisions capturing every angle of the field and tens of thousands of fans snapping pictures with their cameras...somehow the ballboy managed to deflate all but one ball to the same minus two pounds of pressure while at the same time escaping detection?

For all we KNOW the idiots who inspected them in the first place didn't put the right pressure in. That's as plausible an explanation as what you're trying to sell.

 

[TrinityPower]

So let's throw this out there...the league fines Lynch 100,000 for not talking to the media but playing with sub par balls is a 25,000 fine and if Lynch wore the wrong colored shoes he would be suspended should Seattle go to the Superbowl but a team is found to have used sub standard equipment and investigated for cheating and no suspension? Even Rice was suspended before a full story was known yet the Patriots get what for punishment for 3 different violations of foul play?

 

[BluePhantom]

And isn't interesting that the Patriots picked up Browner

Well according to Belichick and Brady "if you aint cheating you aint trying" Browner fits in perfectly

Ah-ha! Just like I thought, trying to speak as if you are all reasonable, but the REAL motive comes out. Just another loser hater.

Haters gonna hate...delfaters gonna deflate

 

[BluePhantom]

So let's throw this out there...the league fines Lynch 100,000 for not talking to the media but playing with sub par balls is a 25,000 fine and if Lynch wore the wrong colored shoes he would be suspended should Seattle go to the Superbowl but a team is found to have used sub standard equipment and investigated for cheating and no suspension? Even Rice was suspended before a full story was known yet the Patriots get what for punishment for 3 different violations of foul play?

Damn straight!!!! Tell 'em Trinity

 

[BluePhantom]

I think I smell a Patriot fan in here

Damn Trinity....nice icon. You remind me of my second wife.

I hope that is a good thing and if so congrats!

Well I have only been married once sooooooo

 

[HUGGY]

Do you remember hearing about the Dolphin game where a Jets coach intentionally tripped our player? Is this what you want to see happening in all the games? A damn free for all? Because the allowing of intentional infractions leads to episodes such as that and bounties being put on players, etc. when penalties for such are not severe.
Personally, I would think playoff games should come with even steeper punishment, if cheating is determined.

The moment you quailfy cheating is when the integrity of the sport diminishes.

So all "cheating" destroys the "integrity" of the sport? That includes defensive backs getting away with a hold...or an offensive player getting away with a push-off to catch a winning touchdown...pick plays of course should have offensive coordinators banned for life? Kickers shouldn't be able to use different balls than everyone else...

Please explain to me why a "rub" play has more "integrity" than playing with a softer football?

You cant compare a heat of the moment hold to a planned and calculated attempt to cheat.
They're not even close to the same thing.

A rub play is pretty intentional, it is planned and not a heat of the moment.

Also if you hold, do you tell the ref that you held, so, he can penalize the team. Integrity of the game and all.

Sounds like baseball more than football.

So you're a Dolphins fan who can't stand the fact that the Patriots OWN your asses year in and year out...so you're here whining about balls that the officials handled on every damn play of the first half and didn't notice a problem...while you ignore the fact that the Patriots steamrollered the Colts in the second half...AFTER the balls had been re-inflated? You're not worried about the integrity of the game...you just don't like the Patriots!

Where has it been proven that the footballs were re-inflated for the second half?

Oh...Ya.. Cuz ChrisL said so.. Got it!

 

[HUGGY]

Do you remember hearing about the Dolphin game where a Jets coach intentionally tripped our player? Is this what you want to see happening in all the games? A damn free for all? Because the allowing of intentional infractions leads to episodes such as that and bounties being put on players, etc. when penalties for such are not severe.
Personally, I would think playoff games should come with even steeper punishment, if cheating is determined.

The moment you quailfy cheating is when the integrity of the sport diminishes.

So all "cheating" destroys the "integrity" of the sport? That includes defensive backs getting away with a hold...or an offensive player getting away with a push-off to catch a winning touchdown...pick plays of course should have offensive coordinators banned for life? Kickers shouldn't be able to use different balls than everyone else...

Please explain to me why a "rub" play has more "integrity" than playing with a softer football?

You cant compare a heat of the moment hold to a planned and calculated attempt to cheat.
They're not even close to the same thing.

A rub play is pretty intentional, it is planned and not a heat of the moment.

Also if you hold, do you tell the ref that you held, so, he can penalize the team. Integrity of the game and all.

Sounds like baseball more than football.

So you're a Dolphins fan who can't stand the fact that the Patriots OWN your asses year in and year out...so you're here whining about balls that the officials handled on every damn play of the first half and didn't notice a problem...while you ignore the fact that the Patriots steamrollered the Colts in the second half...AFTER the balls had been re-inflated? You're not worried about the integrity of the game...you just don't like the Patriots!

Most people don't like cheaters.