Deep State knew all along

[BWK]

Your source is NYT. Give me break. Biden said it on camera! So, your saying I did not see what I saw, and hear what I heard?
What a Marxist troll you are. Nice try.

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Despite a Senate GOP investigation that found no wrongdoing by Joe Biden on foreign policy in Ukraine, claims to the contrary continue to circulate.

www.usatoday.com

It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians. If you can't understand this, you have some serious issues with the English language.

Also, if this weren't true, then show us through documentary evidence, Biden meant something else? You can't.

The problem with the GOP is this. They twist anything, to mean something else, if it helps their cause. They invent idiotic scandals that give late night TV more material than they can cover. Space lasers, Pizzagate, Hugo Chavez stealing voting machines? You folks have gone mad.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

While Trump was being Impeached about the Hunter Biden mounting
scandal { starting in 2018 } and what he was being investigated for.
Unlike Trump who was being Investigated by a Special Counsel
for - Russian Collusion - that was sponsored by Our very own Deep State
and Hillary's Law firm { Perkins Coie } and the DNC.
Then the obvious lie and piliing-on about a supposed { Quid Pro Quo }
phone call with newly elected Zelensky.It was Joe Biden who issued a
verifiable { Quid Pro Quo } to Ukraine if they did not { had 6 hrs. }
Fire the lead prosecutor investigating Burisma Holding where Joe's
drug-addled,sex-addicted son Hunter was making $ 85,ooo a month as
a board member.Plus Hunter receiving $ 3.5 Million from the Mayor of Moscow.
Trump never took a friggin' dime from Moscow.
Nor had any " golden shower " at the Ritz Carlton in Moscow.
Learned from the Infamous stack of lies in the - Steele Dossier -.

There is no ‘deep state’ – so it didn’t ‘know’ anything.

 

[Stashman]

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

Despite a Senate GOP investigation that found no wrongdoing by Joe Biden on foreign policy in Ukraine, claims to the contrary continue to circulate.

www.usatoday.com

It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians. If you can't understand this, you have some serious issues with the English language.

Also, if this weren't true, then show us through documentary evidence, Biden meant something else? You can't.

The problem with the GOP is this. They twist anything, to mean something else, if it helps their cause. They invent idiotic scandals that give late night TV more material than they can cover. Space lasers, Pizzagate, Hugo Chavez stealing voting machines? You folks have gone mad.

I don't hear 99% of media ever talking on those issues. All late night shows that you speak of are leftist. They will never speak on anything that praises the right. Answer my question. Was his son being investigated or not? Yes, or No.

 

[BWK]

Was his son being investigated? Yes, or no?

So, because he was investigated, the mountain came tumbling down? Yes he was investigated, and no nothing happened. Had something happened, there would be enough evidence. The logic doesn't require being a rocket scientist to figure that out.

You keep asking the wrong questions, and telling us all the wrong things. In other words, you are not saying anything to move the ball forward. You only have your own wild imagination to go along with your dishonesty.

 

[Delldude]

There is no such thing as a "Deep State", so you are just a miserable fucking liar as always.

Guess you missed the Iran-Contra hearings.

If You Fear the Deep State, History Explains Why​

Unaccountable National Security Council staffers manage America’s foreign policy. Past reforms only amplified their influence.

In July 1987, Oliver North was living proof of what could happen when obscure government staffers exercise power on their own. North, a Marine lieutenant colonel who’d been assigned to work on Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council staff, sat upright in his olive-green uniform before a joint congressional committee. As television cameras rolled, the staffer recounted his role in the scheme to sell weapons to Iran and funnel the proceeds to Contras battling a socialist government in Nicaragua.

On paper, North and others at the NSC were supposed to support the president’s policy-making process, but Reagan staffers had cooked up their own plans and then carried them out. Amid what became known as the Iran-Contra affair, North and the rest of the NSC looked to many like, in the words of one observer, “reckless cowboys, off on their own on a wild ride.” Today conspiracy theorists would have simply called them part of a “deep state”—shadowy, unelected officials controlling government even as presidents come and go.
If You Fear the Deep State, History Explains Why

North mentioned the deep state in the Iran-Contra hearing. It's on youtube, it's long, it's there.

 

[BWK]

I don't hear 99% of media ever talking on those issues. All late night shows that you speak of are leftist. They will never speak on anything that praises the right. Answer my question. Was his son being investigated or not? Yes, or No.

I already answered. And? Where's the evidence? The fact that there is no evidence against Hunter, makes the whole made up nonsense a joke.

If the GOP cannot intelligently debunk the fact-check version, then the only thing you have left, is to keep making yourself look stupid, by continuing the conversation. Because there is nothing to debate.

 

[Delldude]

You still can't answer. And your answer is a non-answer. Try again, or you are a liar.

No more than you are.

 

[BWK]

Guess you missed the Iran-Contra hearings.



North mentioned the deep state in the Iran-Contra hearing. It's on youtube, it's long, it's there.

North was a criminal. What's that got to do with the Democrat party?

 

[BWK]

No more than you are.

 

[Delldude]

North was a criminal. What's that got to do with the Democrat party?

Maybe read the post would be a good start.

 

[Stashman]

So, because he was investigated, the mountain came tumbling down? Yes he was investigated, and no nothing happened. Had something happened, there would be enough evidence. The logic doesn't require being a rocket scientist to figure that out.

You keep asking the wrong questions, and telling us all the wrong things. In other words, you are not saying anything to move the ball forward. You only have your own wild imagination to go along with your dishonesty.

Because he was being investigated, than by Biden just making the statement is a conflict of interest. He can be impeached right now for that even though it was another administration he was in at the time. So, I hope they do and we will do a deep dive into all of it.

 

[BothWings]

While Trump was being Impeached about the Hunter Biden mounting
scandal { starting in 2018 } and what he was being investigated for.
Unlike Trump who was being Investigated by a Special Counsel
for - Russian Collusion - that was sponsored by Our very own Deep State
and Hillary's Law firm { Perkins Coie } and the DNC.
Then the obvious lie and piliing-on about a supposed { Quid Pro Quo }
phone call with newly elected Zelensky.It was Joe Biden who issued a
verifiable { Quid Pro Quo } to Ukraine if they did not { had 6 hrs. }
Fire the lead prosecutor investigating Burisma Holding where Joe's
drug-addled,sex-addicted son Hunter was making $ 85,ooo a month as
a board member.Plus Hunter receiving $ 3.5 Million from the Mayor of Moscow.
Trump never took a friggin' dime from Moscow.
Nor had any " golden shower " at the Ritz Carlton in Moscow.
Learned from the Infamous stack of lies in the - Steele Dossier -.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Deep State hacked its own within the DNC for the explicit purpose of procuring a perpetual scapegoat in Russia. Now that Biden is acting all thought with his Chinese buddies all of a sudden, it appear to be a similar play: Of pretending that they aren't so close. Such a game of smoke and mirrors.

 

[Oddball]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Deep State hacked its own within the DNC for the explicit purpose of procuring a perpetual scapegoat in Russia. Now that Biden is acting all thought with his Chinese buddies all of a sudden, it appear to be a similar play: Of pretending that they aren't so close. Such a game of smoke and mirrors.

Nobody hacked their database....The data transfer speed was too fast....It was an in inside job.

*coughcoughcoughsethrichcoughcoughcough*

 

[Delldude]

Nobody hacked their database....The data transfer speed was too fast....It was an in inside job.

*coughcoughcoughsethrichcoughcoughcough*

Ahh, yes , I remember that now.

 

[BWK]

Because he was being investigated, than by Biden just making the statement is a conflict of interest. He can be impeached right now for that even though it was another administration he was in at the time. So, I hope they do and we will do a deep dive into all of it.

Negative! one thing doesn't mean another, unless you invent that fantasy in your head. It's simple horse sense logic. Again, dishonesty and ignorance is your biggest problem. That's on you.

You keep exposing your dishonesty after being reminded of the common horse sense logic you refuse to acknowledge. Saying "we will do a deep dive into all of it", exposes that dishonesty. You were told the truth, and you were reminded of the logic behind Biden's statements. And you continue pushing the lie. You are dishonest and a waste of time.

 

[BWK]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Deep State hacked its own within the DNC for the explicit purpose of procuring a perpetual scapegoat in Russia. Now that Biden is acting all thought with his Chinese buddies all of a sudden, it appear to be a similar play: Of pretending that they aren't so close. Such a game of smoke and mirrors.

You are a pos liar too. There is no deep state.

 

[Delldude]

Negative! one thing doesn't mean another, unless you invent that fantasy in your head. It's simple horse sense logic. Again, dishonesty and ignorance is your biggest problem. That's on you.

You keep exposing your dishonesty after being reminded of the common horse sense logic you refuse to acknowledge. Saying "we will do a deep dive into all of it", exposes that dishonesty. You were told the truth, and you were reminded of the logic behind Biden's statements. And you continue pushing the lie. You are dishonest and a waste of time.

so in your little world everybody on th right is dishonest and/or a liar....thanks for making that clear.

 

[BWK]

Nobody hacked their database....The data transfer speed was too fast....It was an in inside job.

*coughcoughcoughsethrichcoughcoughcough*

Prove it liar.

 

[BULLDOG]

The New York Times..All the news we see fit to publish.

The rest of it? Aaaaa...you don't need to read that baloney anyway.

And to this day the leftist propagandists are still censoring and editing what the public needs to
know (in their opinion).
Just look at the Hunter Biden story that was buried while Joe "Big Guy" Biden was busy stealing a presidential
election (that he barely participated in anyway).

So sad for you. You really wanted Hunter Biden to become an issue, didn't you? Well, he isn't.

 

[Delldude]

You are a pos liar too. There is no deep state.

If You Fear the Deep State, History Explains Why​

Unaccountable National Security Council staffers manage America’s foreign policy. Past reforms only amplified their influence.

In July 1987, Oliver North was living proof of what could happen when obscure government staffers exercise power on their own. North, a Marine lieutenant colonel who’d been assigned to work on Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council staff, sat upright in his olive-green uniform before a joint congressional committee. As television cameras rolled, the staffer recounted his role in the scheme to sell weapons to Iran and funnel the proceeds to Contras battling a socialist government in Nicaragua.

On paper, North and others at the NSC were supposed to support the president’s policy-making process, but Reagan staffers had cooked up their own plans and then carried them out. Amid what became known as the Iran-Contra affair, North and the rest of the NSC looked to many like, in the words of one observer, “reckless cowboys, off on their own on a wild ride.” Today conspiracy theorists would have simply called them part of a “deep state”—shadowy, unelected officials controlling government even as presidents come and go.
If You Fear the Deep State, History Explains Why