Decimated al Qaeda Captures Mosul & Tikrit Iraq

[Ibentoken]

President Obama: "Al queda is on the run."

 

[LockeJaw]

Yeah on a quick run towards taking over Iraq!

 

[Moonglow]

Well if the shitty Shiites will let them, what can we do?

 

[Ibentoken]

President Obama was watching ESPN and inadvertently touched the remote and got Fox news. He just found out Iraq is falling.

 

[Vikrant]

Money and blood wasted by Obama???

Are you fucking kidding me?

Please tell us how much more money and blood you'd like for us to keep wasting there.

I counter your ignorant response with; How much more blood will be spilled elsewhere once al Qaeda has their own country or countries? These fuckers were able to plan 911 from tents in the desert.

Just imagine a world war that nobody escapes from. You won't be able to watch Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty, because it will spread here as well. You won't be able to afford the electricity.

Obama wants unrest in the Middle East to drive up the price of oil. He doesn't care that it will be worse than that.

Obama wants to drive up the cost of oil?

Absurd.

As much as I'd like to believe that Obama is somehow to blame for ISIS, I'm not sure how the Shiite Iraqis are not primarily to blame.

Well put.

A man (may be a woman too) has to fight his own battle. Iraqis cannot expect Americans to fight their battle forever.

I personally think Iraq war was a big mistake. US should have never gone in there. But once US got in there and overturned whatever setup they had, it was the obligation of the US to stay in there till things got stabilized. What we are seeing in Iraq is not Al Queda or ISIS, it is primarily a Sunni insurgency. If you recall, prior to US invasion of Iraq, it was Sunni minority that controlled Iraq. Now that the US troops have left (and leaving), Sunnis are making attempts to wrest control of the country from Shias. So at this point, Shias will have to show some spirit and fight for their country.

Nevertheless, it is painful to watch Democrats and Republicans duke it out. It seems like when Republicans are in power, they invade and when Democrats are in power, they want to pull out leaving a mess behind. The end result is a sad mess for the poor country that got invaded.

So I think it will be best for the US and the rest of the world if Democrats and Republicans can have some sort of agreement on foreign policy; they can have disagreements on domestic policies.

 

[longknife]

First of all - they're not al Qaeda!!! They are a group of Sunnis supported by Saudi Arabia [our ally] and Iran.

It appears that the only stable group in the region is the Kurds. They've taken in Kurds fleeing from Syria and are now preparing to do the same things from areas being attacked by the Sunni jihadists. There is far more to this story @ BBC News - Iraqi Kurds 'fully control Kirkuk' as army flees

Why should we care? Thanks to Obama, we turned our backs on them.

 

[Moonglow]

Both Bush leaders and Clinton did the same...

 

[High_Gravity]

This is all because of some disgusting video.

I thought it was because the Miami Heat are behind in the NBA Finals. The Iraqis love them some Lebron.

Only the Shiites back Miami.

The Sunnis are backing SA and Terrible Tim.

 

[mudwhistle]

First of all - they're not al Qaeda!!! They are a group of Sunnis supported by Saudi Arabia [our ally] and Iran.

It appears that the only stable group in the region is the Kurds. They've taken in Kurds fleeing from Syria and are now preparing to do the same things from areas being attacked by the Sunni jihadists. There is far more to this story @ BBC News - Iraqi Kurds 'fully control Kirkuk' as army flees

Why should we care? Thanks to Obama, we turned our backs on them.

Iran is Shiite, and supports the Malaki government.

al Qaeda simply means "base or foundation" anyway.

Yeah , an ACORN simply changes their name and all is forgiven.

al Qaeda has morphed into these radical groups, so the "It's not al Qaeda" excuse doesn't fly.

 

[LockeJaw]

We Know these guys are the dudes that left Al Qaida, punked them out & stole their lunch money. ISIS is Al Qaida on steroids & pcp dipped Newport cigarettes. The Original Gangsters of the Middle East.

Let's stop playing semantics...The Bammster did not send Al Qaida on the run, he is a failure, and the Shrub jr. shouldve never went into Iraq, as much as Saddam was a piece of shit. We just helped them, these motherfickers have patience like you wouldn't believe.

The whole time they had us fooled. Let us believe we won & as soon as they had the chance...they went into overdrive.

 

[mudwhistle]

We Know these guys are the dudes that left Al Qaida, punked them out & stole their lunch money. ISIS is Al Qaida on steroids & pcp dipped Newport cigarettes. The Original Gangsters of the Middle East.

Let's stop playing semantics...The Bammster did not send Al Qaida on the run, he is a failure, and the Shrub jr. shouldve never went into Iraq, as much as Saddam was a piece of shit. We just helped them, these motherfickers have patience like you wouldn't believe.

The whole time they had us fooled. Let us believe we won & as soon as they had the chance...they went into overdrive.

We told the boy king for years, but he thinks he knows better.

 

[Samson]

First of all - they're not al Qaeda!!! They are a group of Sunnis supported by Saudi Arabia [our ally] and Iran.

Iran?

Iran is Shiite, why would they support a Sunni uprising?

 

[Samson]

I counter your ignorant response with; How much more blood will be spilled elsewhere once al Qaeda has their own country or countries? These fuckers were able to plan 911 from tents in the desert.

Just imagine a world war that nobody escapes from. You won't be able to watch Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty, because it will spread here as well. You won't be able to afford the electricity.

Obama wants unrest in the Middle East to drive up the price of oil. He doesn't care that it will be worse than that.

Obama wants to drive up the cost of oil?

Absurd.

As much as I'd like to believe that Obama is somehow to blame for ISIS, I'm not sure how the Shiite Iraqis are not primarily to blame.

Well put.

A man (may be a woman too) has to fight his own battle. Iraqis cannot expect Americans to fight their battle forever.

I personally think Iraq war was a big mistake. US should have never gone in there. But once US got in there and overturned whatever setup they had, it was the obligation of the US to stay in there till things got stabilized. What we are seeing in Iraq is not Al Queda or ISIS, it is primarily a Sunni insurgency. If you recall, prior to US invasion of Iraq, it was Sunni minority that controlled Iraq. Now that the US troops have left (and leaving), Sunnis are making attempts to wrest control of the country from Shias. So at this point, Shias will have to show some spirit and fight for their country.

Nevertheless, it is painful to watch Democrats and Republicans duke it out. It seems like when Republicans are in power, they invade and when Democrats are in power, they want to pull out leaving a mess behind. The end result is a sad mess for the poor country that got invaded.

So I think it will be best for the US and the rest of the world if Democrats and Republicans can have some sort of agreement on foreign policy; they can have disagreements on domestic policies.

Actually, the need to engage in quagmires really is not based on partisanship: Democrats began Vietnam; Republicans ended it. Republicans began Iraq, and Democrats ended it. There really is no "partisan high ground," but that doen't stop the Monday morning quarterbacking: Now we know that Vietnam was a quagmire, but few in the USA would have guessed that would be the case 20 years after having defeated both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Now we know Iraq had no WMD, but who knew that before the invasion? Certainly not the majority of democrats in congress who joined Bush's leadership in the decision to topple Saddam.

However NOW WE KNOW, and there is absolutely no justification for the USA to spend one penny attempting to save the cowardly, incompetent Shiite leadership of Iraq. Let their Iranian breathern help. Let Kuwait help. Let Saudi Arabia show some leadership. But the USA has no more business in Iraq.

 

[HenryBHough]

What nation? What group? What Cult?

Which of them fails to understand that America is a land of weakness and apology? Fundamentally transformed into that so all the world would love us.

How's that working out these days?

 

[usmcstinger]

Ain't aq, boys. Need a quick study chart to know the players.

And how many troops do we have there?

And how many dead and wounded Americans?

Not al Qaeda, who might it be then?

ISIS
They're so extreme that Al Qaeda won't have anything to do with them.

Al-Qaeda disavows any ties with radical Islamist ISIS group in Syria, Iraq - The Washington Post

They want to take Islam back to the Seventh Century. Their main goal is to convert the entire Middle East to their form of Islam. At some point they will have to turn their guns on AL Qaeda or vice versa. If the ISIS ends up in control of Syria, the Russian Naval Base will be threatened. I wonder what they are going to do.
During the 7th Century Christians and the People of the Book ( Jews ) were protected. However, they had to pay a tax and observe the following:

According to a document obtained by NBC News, a 12-point decree issued by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) commands Christians to pay a levy in gold and curb displays of their faith in return for protection from the group. Believe it or not the Virgin Mary plays a very significant role in Islam.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jondel/Virgin_Mary_in_Islam

 

[idb]

We're still in Germany and Japan. Figure it out.

The point isn't to leave. The point is to make things better. Democracy and whatnot.

You know, Democracy and freedom?

You remember that, don't you?

I figure it's too late to go back. Obama set us on a course of no return. He's gutless, and because he's gutless, people are suffering and dying today. His weakness and lack of real answers will only make things worse. And the reason this happens is because he never pays a price for his mistakes. He has no incentive to succeed.

Iraq isn't Japan or Germany though, is it?

You're surrounded by countries hostile to the US, with a population largely hostile to the US and it'll always be that way.

Israel has been in that state for a long time. They seem to be able to handle it.

From what I hear, Europe isn't a nice place for Americans either. Thanks to our liberal media, they think most of our leaders are crazy. It kind of tickles me when liberals complain about problems they created in the first place.

You know it's funny, all of these countries hate our guts when they're doing fine, but the second they get in trouble, who do they start begging to get them out of it? Yesterday Malaki started begging for a drone strike to attack the insurgent's camps. Obama told him to go fuck himself. Typical Obama. If Malaki were to come out of the closet Obama would rush to his aid. As it is, we still have the largest embassy compound in the world in Baghdad, and Obama will let it burn to ashes before he lifts a finger to protect it. And yet Obama claimed that just electing him would end all of this. Everyone would simply love America.

Well, it's clear the world doesn't love us just because your Messiah walks the Earth. He sure does alot of golf, holds constant ceremonies in the White House with sports championship teams, vacations in Martha's Vinyard and Hawaii, takes selfies with female world leaders, living the good life while the world crumbles around his ridiculous foreign policy decisions.

The Europeans aren't trying to shoot US soldiers, lob mortars into their compounds or drive bomb-laden trucks into the gates.

 

[idb]

What nation? What group? What Cult?

Which of them fails to understand that America is a land of weakness and apology? Fundamentally transformed into that so all the world would love us.

How's that working out these days?

Yeah, because invasion and generally swinging your dick around has worked out so well lately, hasn't it?

 

[georgephillip]

"The crisis in Iraq escalated rapidly on Thursday as Iraqi Kurdish forces took control of key military installations in the major oil city of Kirkuk and the Sunni jihadi group Isis revealed its intention to move on Baghdad and cities in the southern Shia heartland.

"Kurdish peshmerga fighters entered Kirkuk after the central government's army abandoned its posts in a rapid collapse during which it lost control of much of the country's north.

"Iraq has been fragile since the 2003 US-led invasion and the latest developments have raised fears that it is in danger of splintering along ethnic and sectarian lines."

It seems a little pointless to bash Bush, Obama, and both Clintons for what's currently happening in Iraq, Syria, and Ukraine when they all seek the same goal.

Three weeks from tomorrow fireworks go off around the US

Any thoughts on who'll be living in the Green Zone?

Iraqi Kurdish forces take Kirkuk as Isis sets its sights on Baghdad | World news | theguardian.com

 

[Jack203]

Yup. al Qaeda has been decimated. And they just captured another Iraqi city.

It isn't Al Qaeda. They are ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham). They have different goals than Al Qaeda and are trying to build a Caliphate within areas of Iraq and Syria.

They're the same guys you and the rest of the Republicans were attacking Obama for not arming in Syria.

Pure brilliance.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

President Obumbler apparently didn't get the memo that advised " 'decimated' doesn't mean exactly what you think it means, Mr. President."