Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people.

[bendog]

I never understood why the Constitution mentions neither God nor political parties. (-: (denoting sarcasm)

But seriously, fair or not, I didn't think the rules committee had any place in deciding who are delegates, so long as they are legally registered and the state parites followed their own rules in selecting them. There may be political consequences for state parties not playing "fair," but fair is not part of life unless it's in the parties' rules.

So if state party machines steal their delegates honestly then they should get to keep them, eh?

Unless there is a state or national party rule against it, awarding delegates regardless of popular votes in a state is ... OK. There's certainly no law against, nor is the constitution applicable. Individuals are certainly free to consider how a nominee is chosen in deciding whom to vote for, or even to vote.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

 

[tinydancer]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

LOL!

NOT notified?

That's funny. The only candidates who knew about it were the ones who got the secret decoder ring notice?

 

[bendog]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

I don't think there was any "secret" meeting. The rules are for anyone to obtain.

Details of GOP delegate allocation - The Washington Post

And the only "secret" meeting was that Team Trump didn't appear to read the rules.

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

 

[IlarMeilyr]

One big wrinkle: Mr. Trump’s two Louisiana state co-chairmen both attended the “secret meeting” – which was in fact a gathering at the Louisiana state GOP convention March 12, according to Jason Doré, the state party’s executive director.

Donald Trump’s Louisiana Team Attended ‘Secret Meeting,’ State Party Official Says

So much for Donny's effort to "decertify" the LA delegates.

 

[bendog]

One big wrinkle: Mr. Trump’s two Louisiana state co-chairmen both attended the “secret meeting” – which was in fact a gathering at the Louisiana state GOP convention March 12, according to Jason Doré, the state party’s executive director.

Donald Trump’s Louisiana Team Attended ‘Secret Meeting,’ State Party Official Says

So much for Donny's effort to "decertify" the LA delegates.

Yes, but it's not only that. Donald's also complaining that Satan Incarnate and Little Marco got delegates, but state rules are that 25 delegates are awarded by proportional vote, and another 10 unpledged are awarded from congressional districts. Trump's real gripe is he thinks it should be winner take all.

 

[tinydancer]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

I don't think there was any "secret" meeting. The rules are for anyone to obtain.



Details of GOP delegate allocation - The Washington Post

And the only "secret" meeting was that Team Trump didn't appear to read the rules.

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

From your own link and thank you very much for it: It was secret. The challenge has merit.

"Bennett later conceded to CBS News' Major Garrett that there was a campaign official in attendance at the meeting - but only because Bennett got wind of it and that the party did not go through the proper channels to notify prospective delegates, therefore giving the challenge merit. Bennett said the campaign would contest the delegate allocation process with the Republican National Committee."

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

 

[IlarMeilyr]

One big wrinkle: Mr. Trump’s two Louisiana state co-chairmen both attended the “secret meeting” – which was in fact a gathering at the Louisiana state GOP convention March 12, according to Jason Doré, the state party’s executive director.

Donald Trump’s Louisiana Team Attended ‘Secret Meeting,’ State Party Official Says

So much for Donny's effort to "decertify" the LA delegates.

Yes, but it's not only that. Donald's also complaining that Satan Incarnate and Little Marco got delegates, but state rules are that 25 delegates are awarded by proportional vote, and another 10 unpledged are awarded from congressional districts. Trump's real gripe is he thinks it should be winner take all.

Trumpy whines like a stuck pig when he "wins" and it isn't winner take all, but when he gets just a plurality and yet gets all the delegates, to him, that's just fair.

The fact is: he and his "advisors" and campaign staff did not know all the intricate rules ahead of time, which they should have. Others did. It is not a legitimate gripe to complain, after the fact, that he was unable to take advantage of the rules of the various games when he didn't know those rules at the time.

I don't much care for algore. But when HE won the majority of the popular vote against George W. Bush, he DIDN'T win the majority of the votes in the Electoral College. Thus, he did not win the Election. He may have felt kind of snake bit and stung. But he didn't whine like a little bitch. Trump should be taking notes.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

I don't think there was any "secret" meeting. The rules are for anyone to obtain.



Details of GOP delegate allocation - The Washington Post

And the only "secret" meeting was that Team Trump didn't appear to read the rules.

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

From your own link and thank you very much for it: It was secret. The challenge has merit.

"Bennett later conceded to CBS News' Major Garrett that there was a campaign official in attendance at the meeting - but only because Bennett got wind of it and that the party did not go through the proper channels to notify prospective delegates, therefore giving the challenge merit. Bennett said the campaign would contest the delegate allocation process with the Republican National Committee."

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

Not only were they on notice, but his guys actually DID attend.

Sorry. But the Trump complaint is bullshit.

HOW could his state co-chairmen in LA BE there but the Trump delegates NOT have been notified?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Since some people have been telling us that the RNC has been playing by the rules then I think it might be a good idea to actually make sure that delegates were chosen in accordance to those rules. It ain't wrong. Its the rules.

 

[tinydancer]

One big wrinkle: Mr. Trump’s two Louisiana state co-chairmen both attended the “secret meeting” – which was in fact a gathering at the Louisiana state GOP convention March 12, according to Jason Doré, the state party’s executive director.

Donald Trump’s Louisiana Team Attended ‘Secret Meeting,’ State Party Official Says

So much for Donny's effort to "decertify" the LA delegates.

Dore didn't follow proper procedures for notifying the delegates. That remains true. Only one official was there and that was because "they got wind of it" instead of proper notification.

"Bennett later conceded to CBS News' Major Garrett that there was a campaign official in attendance at the meeting - but only because Bennett got wind of it and that the party did not go through the proper channels to notify prospective delegates, therefore giving the challenge merit. Bennett said the campaign would contest the delegate allocation process with the Republican National Committee."

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

 

[bendog]

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

Actually, one can hardly blame Trump for considering the option of such a move as the decertification of delegates. He got badly outmaneuvered by organized political efforts of the Cruz campaign who grasped the meaning of the rules far better than Trump's own Ted Mack amateur hour team could.

But "browsing deer" is on the mark [Decertifying delegates is the new target for Trump's people. .]

Good!

Trump delegates were not notified of the Louisiana delegate convention. There's no ground game that would work for anyone when deception on this scale is at play.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Trump campaign moves forward to decertify Louisiana delegates

I don't think there was any "secret" meeting. The rules are for anyone to obtain.



Details of GOP delegate allocation - The Washington Post

And the only "secret" meeting was that Team Trump didn't appear to read the rules.

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

From your own link and thank you very much for it: It was secret. The challenge has merit.

"Bennett later conceded to CBS News' Major Garrett that there was a campaign official in attendance at the meeting - but only because Bennett got wind of it and that the party did not go through the proper channels to notify prospective delegates, therefore giving the challenge merit. Bennett said the campaign would contest the delegate allocation process with the Republican National Committee."

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

No the only support that is was "secret" was Bennett saying he wasn't told, even though he was in attendance. The Rules say the meeting occurs immediately after the primary election. Bennett should have been asking.

Trump one by less than 4%, which resulted in he and Lyin Ted each getting 18. Trump wants the unpledged, and Rubio's and he wants to rewrite the rules to make it winner take all.
Donald Trump threatens lawsuit over delegate rules - CNNPolitics.com

And if the shoe was on the other foot, Trump would be braying that Lyin Ted's trying to steal it by rewriting the rules.

 

[bendog]

One big wrinkle: Mr. Trump’s two Louisiana state co-chairmen both attended the “secret meeting” – which was in fact a gathering at the Louisiana state GOP convention March 12, according to Jason Doré, the state party’s executive director.

Donald Trump’s Louisiana Team Attended ‘Secret Meeting,’ State Party Official Says

So much for Donny's effort to "decertify" the LA delegates.

Dore didn't follow proper procedures for notifying the delegates. That remains true. Only one official was there and that was because "they got wind of it" instead of proper notification.

"Bennett later conceded to CBS News' Major Garrett that there was a campaign official in attendance at the meeting - but only because Bennett got wind of it and that the party did not go through the proper channels to notify prospective delegates, therefore giving the challenge merit. Bennett said the campaign would contest the delegate allocation process with the Republican National Committee."

Inside Donald Trump's bizarre Louisiana delegate fight

Where's your link supporting your assertion the State Party did something wrong with notification?

 

[Zander]

Personally, I think it's much ado about nothing. Trump will have more than 1300 BOUND delegates heading into the convention. These BOUND delegates all MUST vote for Trump on the first ballot. There will not be a second ballot.

 

[Avatar4321]

You guys really sure that you want to open this door?

 

[Avatar4321]

It's not being butt hurt at all.

Oh, but it is. And Trump even got a lawyer.

Bullies like Cruz thugs usually make that claim when their victims bring in the authorities.

But if the authorities would let us administer frontier justice like they used to, the thugs you like so much would all be dead.

Trump is a victim?

 

[bendog]

You guys really sure that you want to open this door?

Oh yes. Trump's a blow hard and an amateur, and it would be really bad if he were actually elected, but he's the perfect clown to blow up the gop, and it needs blowing up as much as the dems needed blowing in the late 60s.

 

[Avatar4321]

They've promised challenges and Trump brought on a lawyer called William McGinley to handle the delegate related issues.

“Well, the problem we’re having here is that there was a secret meeting in Louisiana of the convention delegation, and apparently all of the invitations for our delegates must have gotten lost in the mail," Trump adviser Barry Bennett told MSNBC's Ari Melber last month.

"There’s a process to deal with this. It’s in the certification process, and it’s been with our legal team for most of the morning now, and we are moving forward with the complaint to decertify these delegates."

Obscure Panel May Have Big Effect on GOP Convention | RealClearPolitics

I read this morning that some Cruz delegates are rethinking their support. If the delegates do not mirror the popular vote, that would ruin the party.

I think the decertifying thing is a no go (not to diss the thread in any way), but I think you are right in that if Trump runs this thing out, I think enough will flip to give it to him on the first ballot.

I disagree. I think this it will backfire. So go for it guys

 

[Avatar4321]

So stupid question. If trump succeeds at challenging the delegates in la. Will they be bound at the first ballot?