saintmichaeldefendthem
Gold Member
I have to admit I'm ambiguous on this and didn't know what to think when I first heard about it.
It seems that some states have a law that adds deceiving a woman (or probably a man too) to have sex with her to the definition of rape. The logic, which I'm not disagreeing with, is that a woman cannot possibly give consent when she doesn't know who she's having sex with because he made himself out to be someone he wasn't.
I saw this on a Dateline episode where a man posing as a CIA spy, married and created families with several different women. Everything he said was lies on top of lies, a parfait of deception. When he was caught, he was charged for several crimes, the most serious of which was rape.....by deception.
The jury dismissed that charge, not perceiving that any real harm was demonstrated by prosecutors, at least not in the sex.
Then I saw it again while watching the famous movie "Overboard" (Kurt Russel, Goldie Hawn) with the family, which I'm sure everyone has seen. When he finally has sex with the amnesiac woman he deceived, there was flowery music as if this were a positive and intensely romantic scene instead a woman being raped because she didn't know he wasn't really her husband. I looked at this scene (the kids were in bed, no they didn't see that part!) and asked my wife, "Is this rape?"
She doesn't know either.
It seems that some states have a law that adds deceiving a woman (or probably a man too) to have sex with her to the definition of rape. The logic, which I'm not disagreeing with, is that a woman cannot possibly give consent when she doesn't know who she's having sex with because he made himself out to be someone he wasn't.
I saw this on a Dateline episode where a man posing as a CIA spy, married and created families with several different women. Everything he said was lies on top of lies, a parfait of deception. When he was caught, he was charged for several crimes, the most serious of which was rape.....by deception.
The jury dismissed that charge, not perceiving that any real harm was demonstrated by prosecutors, at least not in the sex.
Then I saw it again while watching the famous movie "Overboard" (Kurt Russel, Goldie Hawn) with the family, which I'm sure everyone has seen. When he finally has sex with the amnesiac woman he deceived, there was flowery music as if this were a positive and intensely romantic scene instead a woman being raped because she didn't know he wasn't really her husband. I looked at this scene (the kids were in bed, no they didn't see that part!) and asked my wife, "Is this rape?"
She doesn't know either.