Death toll of Omicron

[gfm7175]

Both it can go either way

Fact check: Yes, viruses can mutate to become more deadly

A viral tweet shared online falsely claims viruses never mutate to become more lethal.

www.usatoday.com

... but they are typically weaker.

 

[gfm7175]

FYI:

Viral pneumonia is an infection of your lungs caused by a virus. The most common cause is the flu, but you can also get viral pneumonia from the common cold

What Is Viral Pneumonia?

What is viral pneumonia, and how do you get it? Learn the symptoms of this lung infection and how can you get better.

www.webmd.com

False Authority Fallacy. WebMD is incorrect for reasons I've already discussed.

 

[Next Time]

Both it can go either way

Fact check: Yes, viruses can mutate to become more deadly

A viral tweet shared online falsely claims viruses never mutate to become more lethal.

www.usatoday.com

Using LSM fact-checking to bolster your argument?

How about some actual medical and scientific perspectives?

Do Viruses Get Stronger Or Weaker Over Time?​

Understanding virus isolates, variants, and strains​

'Covid virus is getting weaker'​

 

[Next Time]

You’re seeing respirator shortages and over crowded hospitals from shit shots?! Wow, where??

In all the hospitals you claim are full to the brim from those suffering from OOOOmicron

 

[Muhammed]

False Authority Fallacy. WebMD is incorrect for reasons I've already discussed.

You are full of shit.

Cite the post, retard.

 

[Slade3200]

Using LSM fact-checking to bolster your argument?

How about some actual medical and scientific perspectives?

Do Viruses Get Stronger Or Weaker Over Time?​

Understanding virus isolates, variants, and strains​

'Covid virus is getting weaker'​

Thank you… this was from the second paragraph of your first link.

What point were you trying to make?

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One commonly repeated myth that I’ve seen is that all viruses grow weaker and less dangerous to their host over time, so we can simply “wait out” COVID and not bother with a vaccine.

Let’s take a look at that myth, here, that viruses become weaker over time. This applies in some cases, but not always.

 

[Slade3200]

In all the hospitals you claim are full to the brim from those suffering from OOOOmicron

I’m not saying hospitals are full to the brim anymore

 

[gfm7175]

If you already answered it then I apologize.

I'll try to be as clear as possible once again right here.

Can you point me to the post where you answered it please?

I'll just answer your questions one more time as you pose them below.

What makes you believe that Pneumonia is only bacterial and not also caused by viral infections?

Because, by definition, pneumonia is a bacteriological infection of the lungs. Due to pneumonia also being an opportunistic infection, it has in modern times become quite popular to make up terms such as "viral pneumonia", "fungal pneumonia", "bacterial pneumonia", etc. in order to identify some germ that is detected in the body either before or during the settling in of the subsequent bacteriological infection of the lungs (aka pneumonia).

IOW, SARS-CoV-2 is one of many different germs that can cause some initial damage which then increases susceptibility for pneumonia to subsequently settle in (especially amongst people who are already naturally more susceptible to it for whatever reason), but SARS-CoV-2 does not in and of itself cause pneumonia. "Increasing susceptibility for development" is not the same thing as "causing development". This is why COVID-19 should rightfully be listed on a death certificate as a "potential contributing factor of death" (Section 2) rather than as a "condition leading to the immediate cause of death" aka "underlying cause of death" (bottom of Section 1).

 

[gfm7175]

Are you seeing packed ERs and lack of respirators right now?

No.

 

[gfm7175]

I’m not saying hospitals are full to the brim anymore

They were never "full to the brim" "due to COVID". That was another lie peddled to people who don't understand simple mathematics.

A "COVID ward" with 2/10 beds occupied means that 20% of beds are occupied. However, if the size of the "COVID ward" gets reduced down to 2 beds, then that means that 2/2 beds are occupied which ushers in the media fear mongering narrative of "100% of beds are occupied!!" "hospitals are overflowing!!" blah blah blah...

If nurses have time to make dance videos instead of tending to their patients, then the hospital they are working at is not "overflowing with patients".

 

[gfm7175]

You are full of shit.

No, I'm not.

Cite the post,

I've already explained my position, and did so to Slade once again. Refer to that.

retard.

I thought that you lefties found it offensive to use the r-word?? Is it okay to use it as an insult again??

 

[Slade3200]

Because, by definition, pneumonia is a bacteriological infection of the lungs.

Ok thank you for the direct answer. Where did you get this definition from?

 

[Slade3200]

IOW, SARS-CoV-2 is one of many different germs that can cause some initial damage which then increases susceptibility for pneumonia to subsequently settle in (especially amongst people who are already naturally more susceptible to it for whatever reason), but SARS-CoV-2 does not in and of itself cause pneumonia. "Increasing susceptibility for development" is not the same thing as "causing development". This is why COVID-19 should rightfully be listed on a death certificate as a "potential contributing factor of death" (Section 2) rather than as a "condition leading to the immediate cause of death" aka "underlying cause of death" (bottom of Section 1).

It makes sense to me for COVID to be tied to cause of death when death rates drastically spike at the same time a viral pandemic breaks out. Also considering the fact that hospitals got overwhelmed with COVID patients in need of respirators many of whom died. These weren’t cooncindeces. If you don’t think that COVID was a cause of an enormous amount of pain and death then I don’t believe you are thinking clearly.

 

[gfm7175]

Ok thank you for the direct answer. Where did you get this definition from?

Etymology: pneumon = lung --> pneumonia = lung disease.

Medical science: Pneumonia is caused by bacteria that normally lives in one's body (such as in the throat) but makes its way down into one's lungs. At this point, that bacteria causes one's air sacs to get infected/inflamed, and fill up with fluid, and this is how pneumonia forms.

 

[Slade3200]

Etymology: pneumon = lung --> pneumonia = lung disease.

Medical science: Pneumonia is caused by bacteria that normally lives in one's body (such as in the throat) but makes its way down into one's lungs. At this point, that bacteria causes one's air sacs to get infected/inflamed, and fill up with fluid, and this is how pneumonia forms.

Etymology I agree… it’s lung disease. Where did you get the definition you used in your “medical science” portion?

 

[gfm7175]

It makes sense to me for COVID to be tied to cause of death when death rates drastically spike at the same time a viral pandemic breaks out.

Coincidence.

Also considering the fact that hospitals got overwhelmed with COVID patients

Hospitals were not overwhelmed. That was a lie too.

in need of respirators

Many people who were put on respirators did not need those respirators.

many of whom died.

From causes other than COVID.

These weren’t cooncindeces.

They were coincidences, lies, and medical malpractices.

If you don’t think that COVID was a cause of an enormous amount of pain and death then I don’t believe you are thinking clearly.

COVID did not cause those deaths. A slew of other things did (pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, etc)

 

[Slade3200]

Hospitals were not overwhelmed. That was a lie too.

False, I personally know several nurses and doctors who told me about their experience in 2019 and 2020. This isn’t stuff I’m getting from the media. I got it from trusted sources. So in California and Texas I’m 100% positive that several hospitals were overwhelmed with COVID patients having respiratory issues.

 

[Slade3200]

Many people who were put on respirators did not need those respirators.

How do you know this?

 

[Slade3200]

COVID did not cause those deaths. A slew of other things did (pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, etc)

Those conditions have always caused deaths. There was a near 20% spike in deaths during the pandemic.

 

[gfm7175]

Etymology I agree… it’s lung disease. Where did you get the definition you used in your “medical science” portion?

Medical science. I know you're looking for some sort of website link, but I don't just pull my responses from random websites.