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Death panels are here!
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well health care and health insurance are two separate things.There have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianThere have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
I'm sure people die all the time not in doctor's care.accept that health insurance isn't a disease and it isn't treated by doctors.There have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianThere have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
You're really stupid. You're saying you can't die from not being treated by a doctor?
HappyJoy
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You're answer is to pass the bill to hospitals who are just going to make everyone else pay for it?
Nope. My answer is for the patient to apply for charity. Almost all hospitals are funded at least to some degree by non-profits and CHURCHES.
Pre Obamacare studies show that upwards of 45,000 people died per year for lack of insurance.
Dying from Lack of Insurance - FactCheck.org
It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
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Absolutely, good old American way.He was uninsured and likely did not have the money to pay for his medical expenses.
Why should a hospital be forced to provide service and care to those who cannot pay?
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I've got mine, screw the rest
Though oddly enough, a whole lot of people that used to pretend to be conservative are all for the government forcing people and entities to provide goods and services to those that cannot pay.
Seems a rather socialist point of view to me.
HappyJoy
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well health care and health insurance are two separate things.Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianReally? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
Yep and without one you get less of the other.
there are but two facts in life. One is you will pay taxes and two is you will die. doctor or no doctor.accept that health insurance isn't a disease and it isn't treated by doctors.There have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianThere have always been charity hospitals and funding for those who don't have insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.
Always.
Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
You're really stupid. You're saying you can't die from not being treated by a doctor?
well health care and health insurance are two separate things.Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianReally? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
I think they've just seen too many insurance ads. The insurance industry has worked hard to conflate the two, but health insurance isn't the same thing as health care.
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there are but two facts in life. One is you will pay taxes and two is you will die. doctor or no doctor.accept that health insurance isn't a disease and it isn't treated by doctors.Really? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-PresbyterianReally? Where?
Every hospital I've ever been in.
St. Anthony Cares/Financial Assistance
Patient Financial Assistance
Helping our patients in need of financial aid - NewYork-Presbyterian
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
You're really stupid. You're saying you can't die from not being treated by a doctor?
So, why force doctors to care for people that are just going to die anyhow? you are refuting your own point of view now.
huh?well health care and health insurance are two separate things.
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
Yep and without one you get less of the other.
what do you think the doctor does?there are but two facts in life. One is you will pay taxes and two is you will die. doctor or no doctor.accept that health insurance isn't a disease and it isn't treated by doctors.
Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
You're really stupid. You're saying you can't die from not being treated by a doctor?
So, why force doctors to care for people that are just going to die anyhow? you are refuting your own point of view now.
HappyJoy
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huh?well health care and health insurance are two separate things.Financial assistance is a poor replacement for proper health insurance.
Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
Yep and without one you get less of the other.
If that stumped you then you have problems.
Nope. My answer is for the patient to apply for charity. Almost all hospitals are funded at least to some degree by non-profits and CHURCHES.
Pre Obamacare studies show that upwards of 45,000 people died per year for lack of insurance.
Dying from Lack of Insurance - FactCheck.org
It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
HappyJoy
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Pre Obamacare studies show that upwards of 45,000 people died per year for lack of insurance.
Dying from Lack of Insurance - FactCheck.org
It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
You can pay with chickens if you want, I don't think you have enough.
It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
You can pay with chickens if you want, I don't think you have enough.
You're conflating health care and health insurance. Health insurance is a hedge against financial risk. It doesn't protect your health and won't keep you from dying. It will just pay (some) of the doctor bills you rack up. Just like car insurance won't keep you from getting in a wreck. It just pays for the damages.
Or that lack of insurance kills people.Pre Obamacare studies show that upwards of 45,000 people died per year for lack of insurance.
Dying from Lack of Insurance - FactCheck.org
It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
It's a physical impossibility.
well you're making a big leap that all health care is equal. just saying.huh?well health care and health insurance are two separate things.Fuck off you moron lolol. You were denying the existence of charitable health care ten minutes ago.
Psst..lack of insurance doesn't kill people.
People kill people.
I never denied financial assistance, I'm telling you that what a person can't pay for they pass off the bill to everyone else.
Plus, you're healthcare gets really shitty w/out health insurance thus people tend to die when they don't have it.
Yep and without one you get less of the other.
If that stumped you then you have problems.
it's the stupid left's misconception of life. like all of life is.Or that lack of insurance kills people.It's a lie.
Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
It's a physical impossibility.
it's the stupid left's misconception of life. like all of life is.Or that lack of insurance kills people.Nope, not a lie. Maybe find a study that shows nobody dies for lack of insurance.
You don't need to conduct a study to observe fact. Are you suggesting that losing insurance coverage can cause death? What are you imaging? That the shock of reading a cancellation notice might induce a heart attack?
You're not very bright either. The lack of healthcare that you get without insurance. I provided a link. Why don't you prove that a lack of health insurance isn't detrimental to your health when you're sick?
It's not a question of being bright. It don't accept your implied premise - that insurance is the only way to get health care
It's a physical impossibility.
There's a basic logical problem at the heart of their view on these matters: they equate not helping someone with hurting them.
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