But an abortion insures the fetus/baby will go to heaven right? If the baby is born and like the overwhelming majority of babies grows into something besides a christian as an adult it'll go to hell, correct?
Yes you're right...the baby WILL go to heaven. But you can say goodbye to the mother for murdering her child. UNLESS, she happens to repent and ask for forgiveness (truthfully, because God knows her heart). If she doesn't...goodbye!!
If the baby is born and turns into a sinner and is told about God but rejects it, yes, he/she will end up NOT going to heaven. That's their choice then.
Exactly, so the abortion sends the baby to heaven, then all she has to do is ask for forgiveness and she also ends up in heaven.
So shouldn't the pro-life movement focus more on after the abortion and saving the mother's soul when the fetus/baby is already in heaven? You aren't doing the baby/fetus any favors when it's already guranteed to be in heaven and having the baby be born means it will likely end up in hell where, according to the Bible, most people are sent.
Believe me none of the above is what I think, but if I thought all non-believers deserved to burn in hell for eternity and the after-life were so much more important than our current life, all that would make perfect sense.
And I'm glad our resident fundies Cecille and YWC have joined up with their teammate kosher, makes the discussion so much funner. You guys need to teach YWC a thing or two about 6th grade insults though, I never see him use them! What gives?
Even though God has plans for ALL of us, it doesn't mean it always ends up the way it's meant to. We still have a choice. God speaks to us throughout our lives, it's just that some people don't realize it. You know that little voice (that conscience thing) that nags at you when you just aren't sure about something? I'm sure a woman that is going to have an abortion has that little voice speaking to her...but is she listening?
How many times have you thought about doing something and you're just not quite sure if it's the right thing to do. Alot of people make a decision to do the wrong thing....God isn't going to stop them because he gave them the right to make their own decisions. He knows if that baby is aborted, He will take care of it. Now the woman that had it done? She may feel guilt, especially later in life, and she could very well turn to God for help. That's what He wants!!! If she doesn't, then she pays for her mistakes.
The pro-life movement is there for her, but she has to want it! The doors to the Church is always open for her, but she has to go there herself, nobody can drag her there. And God is always there for her....but she has to want to seek Him. As anyone that sins, it is up to them to accept God and ask for forgiveness. He is not going to force anyone to worship Him.