DARK TIMES: Baby Alfie, The Latest Victim Of Omnipotent Government...

[Tommy Tainant]

Your ignorance of British civics is astounding. I have just been laughing about it with the Butler. Please explain to me what interest the"state" had in seeing this child die ?

power, pure and simple.

They can't have the NHS being shown up by being wrong.

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

Why make the parents suffer when it wouldn't cost the government a dime?

Why are you avoiding my question ?

Why do you bring up non material questions to the argument?

It wouldn't have cost the government a dime, and the parents wanted it. Why does NHS think it outranks the kids own parents?

Its a very material question as it addresses your madcap conspiracy theory. Answer it and try to get some credibility.

 

[martybegan]

power, pure and simple.

They can't have the NHS being shown up by being wrong.

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

Why make the parents suffer when it wouldn't cost the government a dime?

Why are you avoiding my question ?

Why do you bring up non material questions to the argument?

It wouldn't have cost the government a dime, and the parents wanted it. Why does NHS think it outranks the kids own parents?

Its a very material question as it addresses your madcap conspiracy theory. Answer it and try to get some credibility.

Who. cares. if. the. NHS. doctors. declared. him. untreatable.

Does that spell it out enough for you, you tea-sucking eunuch?

 

[Cecilie1200]

power, pure and simple.

They can't have the NHS being shown up by being wrong.

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

Why make the parents suffer when it wouldn't cost the government a dime?

Why are you avoiding my question ?

Why do you bring up non material questions to the argument?

It wouldn't have cost the government a dime, and the parents wanted it. Why does NHS think it outranks the kids own parents?

Its a very material question as it addresses your madcap conspiracy theory. Answer it and try to get some credibility.

Credibility with whom? You? I would be mightily surprised if Marty wanted it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

power, pure and simple.

They can't have the NHS being shown up by being wrong.

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

Why make the parents suffer when it wouldn't cost the government a dime?

Why are you avoiding my question ?

Why are YOU demanding answers without providing any yourself?

I swear sometimes Limey cucks like Tommy make we wish we left them to be run over by the Krauts.

Now, now. There are decent people in the UK.

Tommy just isn't one of them.

 

[HenryBHough]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

 

[Cecilie1200]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

Why make the parents suffer when it wouldn't cost the government a dime?

Why are you avoiding my question ?

Why do you bring up non material questions to the argument?

It wouldn't have cost the government a dime, and the parents wanted it. Why does NHS think it outranks the kids own parents?

Its a very material question as it addresses your madcap conspiracy theory. Answer it and try to get some credibility.

Who. cares. if. the. NHS. doctors. declared. him. untreatable.

Does that spell it out enough for you, you tea-sucking eunuch?

On yer bike then . Dickhead.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

 

[Cecilie1200]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

 

[boedicca]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

Indeed. The NHS treated Alfie like disposable property of the state and completely overrode his parents' right to protect and to make decisions for their son.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

There was no other treatment on offer. None.

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

I don't care who made the decision if it wasn't the parents. Did THAT register? You're making an irrelevant point to refute an argument no one is having. Did THAT register? For someone who's allegedly British, you certainly don't understand English very well.

As for "pontificating on the subject", I'm obviously right, or you wouldn't have wasted multiple posts asserting that I'm wrong without offering a single shred of proof to that effect.

The more you avoid proving me wrong, the more obvious it becomes that you know I'm right, and you're too chickenshit to admit it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I find it remarkable that an 11 year old mind knows everything about treatment options across an entire planet.

But not remarkable that an 11 year old mind thinks it knows.

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

I don't care who made the decision if it wasn't the parents. Did THAT register? You're making an irrelevant point to refute an argument no one is having. Did THAT register? For someone who's allegedly British, you certainly don't understand English very well.

As for "pontificating on the subject", I'm obviously right, or you wouldn't have wasted multiple posts asserting that I'm wrong without offering a single shred of proof to that effect.

The more you avoid proving me wrong, the more obvious it becomes that you know I'm right, and you're too chickenshit to admit it.

The rights of the child outweigh those of the parent. That is standard the world over. to suggest that the parents have rights that transcend those is breathtakingly dumb.
There is a process in the UK that does recognise the rights of parents up until their decisions are not beneficial to the child. Why do you have a problem with that ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I don't give a **** if there were any treatment options or not, and I refuse to let Tommy divert this off onto a tangent of "what was the right decision"?

The POINT is that the decision, whatever it was, BELONGED TO ALFIE'S PARENTS. I don't give a rat's ass if the NHS delivered their decision with a choir of angels around them, heralding the wisdom of it all. Their decision was WRONG for the simple fact that it was WRONG FOR THEM TO MAKE IT AT ALL.

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

I don't care who made the decision if it wasn't the parents. Did THAT register? You're making an irrelevant point to refute an argument no one is having. Did THAT register? For someone who's allegedly British, you certainly don't understand English very well.

As for "pontificating on the subject", I'm obviously right, or you wouldn't have wasted multiple posts asserting that I'm wrong without offering a single shred of proof to that effect.

The more you avoid proving me wrong, the more obvious it becomes that you know I'm right, and you're too chickenshit to admit it.

The rights of the child outweigh those of the parent. That is standard the world over. to suggest that the parents have rights that transcend those is breathtakingly dumb.
There is a process in the UK that does recognise the rights of parents up until their decisions are not beneficial to the child. Why do you have a problem with that ?

Ahhh, yes. The rights of the child, as expressed by the government, who knows that child MUCH better and cares more about him than his own parents do. The "best interest" of the child to hurry the **** up and die immediately. Benefiting the child by ending his life. The wisdom and compassion of the British government in "generously" allowing the parents to raise their children, up until the government decides they're not doing it right, and educates them on who those kids REALLY belong to.

If you can't figure out why I have a problem with that, you're even stupider than I think you are. And believe me, that would take some serious doing.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It was not the Doctors decision. It was the courts decision. Several of them in fact.

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

I don't care who made the decision if it wasn't the parents. Did THAT register? You're making an irrelevant point to refute an argument no one is having. Did THAT register? For someone who's allegedly British, you certainly don't understand English very well.

As for "pontificating on the subject", I'm obviously right, or you wouldn't have wasted multiple posts asserting that I'm wrong without offering a single shred of proof to that effect.

The more you avoid proving me wrong, the more obvious it becomes that you know I'm right, and you're too chickenshit to admit it.

The rights of the child outweigh those of the parent. That is standard the world over. to suggest that the parents have rights that transcend those is breathtakingly dumb.
There is a process in the UK that does recognise the rights of parents up until their decisions are not beneficial to the child. Why do you have a problem with that ?

Ahhh, yes. The rights of the child, as expressed by the government, who knows that child MUCH better and cares more about him than his own parents do. The "best interest" of the child to hurry the **** up and die immediately. Benefiting the child by ending his life. The wisdom and compassion of the British government in "generously" allowing the parents to raise their children, up until the government decides they're not doing it right, and educates them on who those kids REALLY belong to.

If you can't figure out why I have a problem with that, you're even stupider than I think you are. And believe me, that would take some serious doing.

The government had no part in it you ******* cretin.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Way to miss the point. Are you actually TRYING to sound like a ******* moron for some reason?

I will leave that to you matey. You seem to have very little knowledge of the country that you are denigrating. How can you pontificate with such smugness on a subject that you know nothing about ?

It was not the Doctors decision - did that register ?

I don't care who made the decision if it wasn't the parents. Did THAT register? You're making an irrelevant point to refute an argument no one is having. Did THAT register? For someone who's allegedly British, you certainly don't understand English very well.

As for "pontificating on the subject", I'm obviously right, or you wouldn't have wasted multiple posts asserting that I'm wrong without offering a single shred of proof to that effect.

The more you avoid proving me wrong, the more obvious it becomes that you know I'm right, and you're too chickenshit to admit it.

The rights of the child outweigh those of the parent. That is standard the world over. to suggest that the parents have rights that transcend those is breathtakingly dumb.
There is a process in the UK that does recognise the rights of parents up until their decisions are not beneficial to the child. Why do you have a problem with that ?

Ahhh, yes. The rights of the child, as expressed by the government, who knows that child MUCH better and cares more about him than his own parents do. The "best interest" of the child to hurry the **** up and die immediately. Benefiting the child by ending his life. The wisdom and compassion of the British government in "generously" allowing the parents to raise their children, up until the government decides they're not doing it right, and educates them on who those kids REALLY belong to.

If you can't figure out why I have a problem with that, you're even stupider than I think you are. And believe me, that would take some serious doing.

The government had no part in it you ******* cretin.

Really? So British courts aren't part of the government? Please explain to us how that works.

 

[saveliberty]

He was dying and there was no cure on offer. His case was hijacked by religious extremists who wanted to use him as a propaganda tool.
The case was heard by several courts who all agreed with the Doctors. Its a shame that American loons have jumped on this sad case to deflect from the worst healthcare system in the civilised world.

The Italian hospital agreed to take him, It takes the UK off the hook. Many diseases have no cure, should treatment be removed from anyone that can't be cured?

Hey, what happens to hospice care for the elderly, if that's the case? They're certainly not going to get any better. Should we just stop giving them any care, shut them in a room, and shovel out the corpses once a week or so?

You seem to have grasped my point.

 

[Cecilie1200]

He was dying and there was no cure on offer. His case was hijacked by religious extremists who wanted to use him as a propaganda tool.
The case was heard by several courts who all agreed with the Doctors. Its a shame that American loons have jumped on this sad case to deflect from the worst healthcare system in the civilised world.

The Italian hospital agreed to take him, It takes the UK off the hook. Many diseases have no cure, should treatment be removed from anyone that can't be cured?

Hey, what happens to hospice care for the elderly, if that's the case? They're certainly not going to get any better. Should we just stop giving them any care, shut them in a room, and shovel out the corpses once a week or so?

You seem to have grasped my point.

You know what amuses me? Leftists LOVE to trot out the line that "conservatives only care about unborn children; they don't give a damn about them once they're born!" And yet they're the ones demonstrating how much they "love" children after they're born by STILL considering them disposable if they're inconvenient. I mean, if the left is going to get on their high horse and tell us how morally superior they are on the subject of children, shouldn't they be able to give us SOME sort of baseline age at which that kicks in?

 

[pismoe]

Crazy how the govt can force a couple to watch their child die and not be able to do anything about it.
I dont give a shit what those statists thought, it aint your ******* family!!
Who they **** do you think you are to do some shit like that?

------------------------------------------------- they think that they are the same as GOD .

 

[pismoe]

The government had no hand in it. The courts made the decision in the childs interest and based on the best medical advice.

Why cant you fuckwits defend your own shit healthcare without dragging dying infants in to it ?

Healthcare in the UK is the government, despite claims otherwise.

The Courts are the government as well, and in the UK far less independent then in the US.

how about you get your own cum-guzzling nose out of other people's affairs?

Oh wait, your're a british statist **** who always knows better than other people.

Your ignorance of British civics is astounding. I have just been laughing about it with the Butler. Please explain to me what interest the"state" had in seeing this child die ?

power, pure and simple.

They can't have the NHS being shown up by being wrong.

That really is a laughable response. Who is they ?

You do know that there is no cure for Alfies condition dont you ?

Nobody ever pretended that there was. And their legal team could not produce one expert who could offer hope. So how was the NHS being "wrong" ?

So who is they ?

Walk me through your infowars style bullshit conspiracy theory so that I understand how things work in the UK.

So you think that a government shoudl summarily execute terminally ill people, even if they have the means and desire to seek additional health care?

Wow.

-------------------------------------------- Thats where the 'brits' are headed Bodicca'